Predestination [7/7] [GAME OVER!]

[Who]

We just got lucky

The only reason we needed luck was because you limmed ircher then tried to blow someone up.

[Frogsterking]

Wait, cakez tried to explode n1? Very much the wrong move, could have cost us the game.

The choice was rash yet the aim was true.

[Who]

Wait, cakez tried to explode n1? Very much the wrong move, could have cost us the game.

The choice was rash yet the aim was true.

Yes, but like, if he hit town the game would have been lost immediately, if he didn't shoot we had a very favorable position.

[SirCakez]

I didn't mean to submit an action night 1 lol I got on a call with a friend and totally got distracted and didn't come back in time

[Frogsterking]

I didn't mean to submit an action night 1 lol I got on a call with a friend and totally got distracted and didn't come back in time

scum line

[Who]

Thanks for modding! I think cop is too powerful. It's powerful enough in regular mafia but in this where the mafia can't target a claimed cop in response to the claim it's kind of insane.

yeah my first thought for altering this would be letting the mafia kill whoever they want

That seems a bit too strong and also against the spirit of it. Perhaps give everyone a one-shot free night? Or it ends so quickly that that would also be against the spirit of it.

I didn't mean to submit an action night 1 lol I got on a call with a friend and totally got distracted and didn't come back in time

You intended to not act and then you didn't act, causation be damned.

[Frogsterking]

Maybe make it anonymous, slightly faster, and submit an 18 entry long list at the beginning and run three games back to back with the same group using their original list.

[Cook]

will think it over!

until then think i'll take a short mod hiatus

back tomorrow with more exciting games like ninth thoughts

[Who]

What do you mean by anonymous? Everyone uses anonymous alts? That doesn't seem like it will do much. Faster only prevents it from being broken during the game, it doesn't save the setup from breaking. Three games back to back seems fun but won't protect from breaking.

[Cephrir]

Maybe the mafia can choose which list to kill from and which to roleblock from?

[Who]

That would be a good check on blindly following the cop, but after thinking more about it I think there might just be too much town power in general, and also too much openness.

[Who]

If the random towns are in the same class and the mafia claim that class you get two ICs d1 before any night actions.

[Who]

Actually that’s easy the mafia just claim different classes to each other, Andante wasn’t trying when she claimed the same class as frog.

[Cephrir]

Ya some VTs might not hurt

[Who]

But being a PR is fun though.

[Frogsterking]

What do you mean by anonymous? Everyone uses anonymous alts? That doesn't seem like it will do much. Faster only prevents it from being broken during the game, it doesn't save the setup from breaking. Three games back to back seems fun but won't protect from breaking.

i didn't know if there is a setting to make it anonymous.

I guess one way to help mitigate breaking which gives players agency and is in the spirit of the setup is to go in the opposite direction of the above suggestions, and give both alignments an additional set of either / or PRs that swap the target of target players. I've heard the roles called different things like Driver, not sure what they're called here. Then players can decide if executing their night action is going to help them or not based on what appears to be happening.

The idea of the slightly faster time to allow three games back to back is to balance the setup in a high skill high luck way, so some playthroughs will be broken and others won't, and you'll get multiple playthroughs.

[Who]

Adding redirection risks things getting to chaotic but is promising. Bus driver has the issue of needing two targets which would introduce unnecessary complexity, but a role which shifts the target’s target list one night forwards seems good for scum. For town, those roles are generally negative utility, but a beam splitter would be handy.

[Frogsterking]

Adding redirection risks things getting to chaotic but is promising. Bus driver has the issue of needing two targets which would introduce unnecessary complexity, but a role which shifts the target’s target list one night forwards seems good for scum. For town, those roles are generally negative utility, but a beam splitter would be handy.

Yeah I feel it. Maybe even some negative utility is warranted for town here?

[Who]

But negative utility roles will just either not get used or only be used by trolls. Better to give the negative town utility to scum.

[SirCakez]

sorry I was completely useless in this I should not have been playing mafia last night LOL