Alright, looking at Hockey next.
Hocky was one of the ones that hated my "I hate rvs stage and yall are doing it wrong"
"Why do you want only pressure on 1 person to start the game? Doesnt make sense, a wagon shouldn't be formed on page 1 for the most part imo"
> I mean like, how is it beneficial to have 1 vote on everyone? that's not pressure. Wagons make pressure. Pressure makes people act, and for the most part, my early "rvs read" was a legit read at the time. Pressuring 1 person is a start, if you get a solid read on 1, you move to another... better than whatever the heck is happening this game
I never said I wanted *only* 1 vote on anyone, I just wanted to have multiple smallish wagons on diff ppl. Those mini wagon also make pressure
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]> also in
27, says townpings from fire's RVS vote
Yes I've explained multiple times why I look for townpings early on into the game
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39
In post 39, HockeyFan wrote:fireisredsir wrote:i actually kinda agree with the hockey suspicion, i scoped out the starts of his games and the early buttering people up doesn't really feel like his town play, which is usually more fluffposting, banter, and discussing mechanics. i only see one scum game in his history but he acted closer to this. it's not an open so there's no mechanics to discuss here
Litreally what lol. I have "buttered up" people(if tring ppl early is what this means) in other games too. In
Newbie 2067, I had about 2-3 reads within the first 4 posts(And I was town that game). Another game is
Mini Normal 2234(Once Again town) where I townread someone within the first 2 posts so i'm not sure what meta diving u did?
About the bolded, First of all, I don't do it ALOT(yes I do it I will admit), but secondly the game was off of RVS on page 1 so what are u getting at? Am i suppsoed to do the bolded with 3-4 votes, and get even more votes cuz that doesnt seem like a good plan to me?
fireisredsir wrote: but still, he feels like more of an outsider. and like he's forcing himself to make a meaningful post with commentary on the game even when not much has happened, so he can look more town and get people off his back. feels like he's doing it because he thinks he has to instead of because it's his honest thoughts.
Ya, I like making meaningpul posts when 2 ppl have said they don't like RVS(and want to move on it quickly). Whats the deal with this? Also, yes I do have to do with it cuz I have 3 votes!! How can you tell that they're not my "honest" thoughts?
> Just pulled the whole post on this cause yeah. So I mean, 12 posts ago you go "townpings for fire's rvs" and it looks like that's what fire's referring to, but not certain I'd call it buttering up. For that comment though, your reaction here feels odd.. like it feels like an overreaction tbh like if someone went "Andante is trying to pocket me" my reaction would be a simple "lol you're funny" not linking games... this early like if it was late game (or now...) I'd understand going "I'm not buttering people up what??" not post 30 though lol
I already had a couple votes and guess what! 1 more person was adding on to that at that point
" secondly the game was off of RVS on page 1 so what are u getting at? Am i suppsoed to do the bolded with 3-4 votes, and get even more votes cuz that doesnt seem like a good plan to me?"
> sounds like you're complaining we got out of RVS so fast... like, maf should be more mad than town RVS didn't last long... RVS is an easy excuse for maf to have minimal effort...
what was I trying to get at is, "why do u suddenly expect me to fluffpost,banter and take the game not seriously when its page 2 and I have like 3 votes"
I was asked why I SRed
27 and
28,
27 was explained
In post 28, HockeyFan wrote: In post 16, Dwlee99 wrote:What is different between fireisredsir and surye in that regard?
I like this question a lot, dk if I would call them town already tho
> and
28 here, this just doesn't feel like it comes from town. Like Dwlee brings up a valid point, and you're just kinda like "yes. good. idk if town" like, your post after this one is all this explanation for why you're not pocketing someone.. I feel like town you would've added more to Dwlee's thought there. idk how to really explain it.
How much more I am suppsoed to explain on post 28? Early trs are just a baseline again. I explained again anyways in
232 why I trd them
Post
41 - You declare a TR on Dwlee off of 3 posts. In my opinion before 100 posts is too early to be declaring TRs... but whatever
Ok I'll tell you why(and since u want shit after post 50, i will give it to u)
457- I feel like mafia would want ppl to rush with thier reads faster
Thier whole Interaction with Frozen/Eyes seemed towny, it looked like they genuinely wanted to solve there(
498,
505,
507,
510
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50 - what you say to Overkill feels odd. I'd understand it if the 2 of you are maf partners, but if you're not partners I'm not sure why you'd even interact with that post tbh like "Whats the point of making this post? Just dont post lol" doesn't feel like the nicest thing to say to someone when we're still in this get to know each other phase. It's like going to the family dinner and telling someone to shut up cause you don't like the story they're talking about. Why does town you tell someone to not post? Like, what if Overkill is new, sometimes something like that is enough to scare people off... just saying
"Scare people off??" LOL, asking why someone posted about them "not being here" is not SCARING them off. I interacted with it cuz it was thier post, and I thought it would entail a more(esp on post 50)
In post 55, HockeyFan wrote: In post 52, 0verki11 wrote:
(I think this is the end on how what i wanted to reply to god reading BBCode makes me want to die)
Doesn't townreading people for reasons that you acknoledge arent very good just confuse town as a whole though? Spreading things that you don't beleive in, particulary when theres really not much going on in terms of game talk.
Are we reading the same post? I said my reasons in the OTHER games werent very good. I do believe that my reasoning(at least from my perspective) regarding post
27 was good for me to make a baseline
> I liked this post from Overkill!!! Hockey's reaction is odd. I'm mainly just quoting it cause I like this from overkill, and I want this in my notes.
In post 56, HockeyFan wrote:
Alright, heres how you play mafia. Just tell me your mafia partners and it should be fairly easy!!
> I want to know why Hockey is like only focussing on Overkill here, like, it feels awkward.. Almost like Overkill was in maf chat like "Idk what to do" and Hockey is like "easy. I'll bus you" cause nothing about any of these Hockey +Overkill interactions really look like Hockey considering Overkill town.
I interacted with them because they were the only one ....there? Between
50 and
56, me and him were the only one there. Saying I bussed is also pretty ridiculous. Why would you even think I need to bus there? Just makes little sense and it seems like you're making stuff up as u go
dang... I feel bad for not being here... I wish I talked to overkill :/
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155 - Umm you go back a LOT of posts (this might be the dwlee stephen 1v1 so ehh) to ask why Greeting is a SR. Not curious why Surye is a SR off of no posts? Or curious for the reason Dwlee is #1? Only curious on the greeting read?
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176 - you get really defensive of Greeting... Like, "how dare you sr greeting for an RVS vote!!" uhh Surye is on that list too with ONLY and RVS vote, why is it only greeting from that list we care about?
Cuz Greeting Is the only read I didnt understand/like. Suryve read is like "meh whatecver putting pressure on someone with 0 posts". I didnt care about Dwlee since it was expected from stephen after thier interaction. I got defensive of Greeting cuz I did town read them and there was no previous interaction between them and Greeting. I didn't comment on the wavemode read because I did NOT tr them at that point
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182 - Stephen comes back with stuff, and you just back off like, you had all this conviction "GREETING SHOULD NOT BE THERE!!!" Stephen refutes your points made, and you're like "oh ok.." like, what? were you just doing that to look towny? maf that went "I know Greeting is town. there shouldn't be a reason to SR greeting there. I'm gonna look real towny!!" then "oh.. I guess yeah greeting doesn't look towny.. I just have TMI.."
Lol. I never said greeting DOESNT look towny, I agreed with thier point of "it looks touch-and go", but I still saw no other reason to sus them sicne the touch-and-go seemed pretty NAI. TMI??!?!? Wtf, yes because I would totally choose ONLY greeting from the list if I had TMI. I could have also trd wavemode who had 1 post at the time!! "TMI" seems bleh
Post
183 - you encourage Stephen's gimmick... most likely as a way to distract from your awkward Greeting "read"
You are just grasping at straws here lol. How was my greeting read "akward". Also, responding to someone right after is NOT a way to distract, sorry.
Post
185 - then you ask stephen for his TRs... and after this you move on like, ask a question, no follow up. shows you never cared about the answer.
He said he had NO tr's, what I am supposed to expand on that with lol
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231 - your post 40 TR on Dwlee comes into question, it feels like you're afraid of stephen tbh which would make yall not partners, but Stephen has a way of making you say stuff that like completely contradicts other stuff you've said lol like here for example. You've been all "heck yeah! Dwlee town!!!" Stephen is like "you sure about that?" and you're like "well umm.. no??"
DUDE. I never said I didn't TR Dwlee there. I basically said "I havent played enough games with Dwlee, but I still think they're town" Where Did I say the "well umm.. no??"
Post
232 - cause you mention me, so of course I talk about it. You're all "16 seemed like a good clarifcation question and not let Andante pick and choose what they want to see" like, if you actually READ THE POSTS AROUND IT, it was part of my conversation with them.. feels like a really odd thing to be like "Dwlee town for this!!!" that question wasn't clarifying anything.. it feels like you're making stuff up tbh. "20 is towny cuz i mainly agreed with it" 20 is just a post saying something is awkward... Like it feels like you're handing out TRs like I hand out candy on Halloween.. "here's a tr for you! and one for you!!" the question is, why is Dwlee the only one here you're fascinated with, like you keep going "yeah I tr Dwlee!!" what about literally anyone else? cause all these Dwlee posts are reactions to someone else saying something, so it's not even like you're actively making a read on them, you just keep going back to the 3 points you have.
** Post
249 - This feels like a recurring theme, you'll ask someone a question, they answer very well, then you like back off/go yeah I agree BECAUSE...I honestly wanna call this maf indicative like, you ask a question, then feel the need to defend yourself for talking about that person. First Stephen and greeting now this...
Post
370 - Easy you go after me! cause when you start going for anyone around, your "plan kinda back fires" You find a bad read from me and attack it
"when you start going for anyone around, my plan "backfires". lol pls This was the first serious SR i had, so where tf did I "go after anyoen around" b4 that
"??? Out of all things to SR scorpious for, you choose this?!?! Also, I don't like your recent posts cuz you made a list(b4 u finished skimming). I'm assuming that list had some merit and some reasoning behind it, so its weird for u to dismiss peoples questions about those reads."
> like, don't like my posts made before I finished reading... hmm my bad for trying to interact with people in live time. I've been playing marathon games, no attention to this game really. Lose track of time when playing them, like the one night I started playing at 3.. look up, it's already 11pm!!!
Anyways. back to this post, you're all "OMG WHY SR SCORP FOR THIS REASON!!!" but in the same post, cause you know I'm town, you go "I'm sure your list has meaning behind it!!" like, it just feels like you're trying to appear towny. Trying to raise some point that everyone else would agree with, all without stirring the pot too much... because you are very selective in who you out a SR on/who you interact with lol
???????. having some sort of MEANING behind a list does mean you automatically become town. Let's give you the benefit of the doubt that what you said in bolded is TRUE. how does that make me scum. Not stirring the pot can come from either alligment.
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371 - You try to win Scorp over to your side, like "see!! I just acknowledged Andantes bad read!! I'll pocket uou now!" that's kinda how that reads tbh
Wtf. How is
371 pocketing in ANY WAY. I asked them if thier read on wave has changed based on the content he just produced , that is NOT pocketing
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450 - Voted me when I wasn't here. Cause we're trying to look busy without causing any controversy... Oh, Andante isn't here, this is gonna be an easy push... oh my friend... I caught you off guard and that was a fun interaction. Like, you vote me going "people I wanna kill rn are Andante(explained a bit in
370), but its also thier unwilligness to post content(Im aware they're still catching up but ehhh deosnt sit right with me)"
You literally said you want to vote me for not posting. I've been around multiple times going "I am here, catching up!" if you had anything you needed to tell me, literally just go @Andant, just TRY to get my attention.. and maybe.. I'll interact with you. wow what a concept. I literally think you're trying to pick me off cause you know I'm LHF (or uhh was at the time) if you wanted the reason I've been gone so much, you literally could've just asked...it's not like it's a secret
You said you were "catching uP" at least 3 times at that point. Also I was not looking for an "easy" push. If I was, i could have sussed eyes alot more since there was already alot of sus on them.
VOTE: Hockey
) so I'm a bit conflicted about how to approach my read on this slot