In post 670, the worst wrote:how do you consider what fire and what I am seeing about your push against eyes as meaningfully different? Im genuinely confused and its been a long time since ive felt this confounded trying to have a convo with someone about a pretty routine mafia read lol
what's different is that fire gets what I'm saying about eyes. he just doesn't agree with it
you don't seem to get it at all
these are all of the posts I've made about eyes:
355,
399.
485,
646,
650,
657
I don't know how to prove a negative. it'd be more useful if you could point out to me where in here you seem to believe that my issue with eyes is laziness
because if you actually read the posts, I think you'll instead find that overall my position has been that he has indeed been trying to participate in the game, but there are substantive issues with that participation which lead me to believe he is scum. that's not laziness, that's scumminess. (and that's part of what I specifically mentioned in
657, the fact that if he truly just doesn't care and doesn't want to participate in the game, then he wouldn't be TRYING to seem like he's participating like in points 1 and 3 - instead he would just not participate)
I'd be happy to share my thoughts on scorp with you. I'm just worried that you'll ignore what I write and instead conclude that what I'm actually trying to say is that scorp is just lazy
first and foremost, scorpious's
203 is a shitshow. just a lot a of very nitpicky shade. he himself later walked back the post (in his
248), claiming it was just a reaction test (to get my tone and writing style). I explained in my
363 that I did not really believe this rationale given the context of
21 and
203 taken together. it seems more likely he was targeting me for elimination for a while. (which, hey, he can come after me if he wants. but do it with your chest! and with actual arguments. don't go back on it and say it was just a reaction test)
scorpious also generally reads to me like he's putting on a show.
333 feels melodramatic. if you scumread andante, alright dude just scumread her. why all the "this isn't adding up" and "I'm not comfortable with this" theatrics
in fact the whole progression to voting andante in
332,
333,
335,
337, and
347 feels like manufactured outrage. in fact a good analogy for it is the thing you were saying about laziness, how laziness *looks* bad but you also need to justify why it's actually scummy. similarly, the things he got so upset about in those posts look slightly bad, sure, but he never really gets around to justifying why they mean andante is scum. iirc andante posted some reads he didn't like? and he asked her a question and she didn't feel like answering it? then she answered it a few posts later anyway... if this is truly enough for someone to become a strong scumread for scorp, there are a lot of other people he should've gone after this game as well. she shouldn't have become his "only scumread" as he said at the time. seems more likely to me he just felt bolstered by how much pressure she was getting from fire and FA at the time and wanted to push on it
and also on the topic of melodramatic tone, I mentioned in my
399 that I didn't like his
395 and
397, which he wrote because at some point I stated that he was the one who ended RVS (even though what technically happened is that he simply *stated* that he had ended RVS, when in actuality the vote that ended RVS had already been cast a few minutes prior... you can read page 1 of the game if you're curious). personally I feel like he got overly confrontational about me misremembering such a minor detail. I can see this coming from scum feeling like "gotcha! caught him in a lie, now everyone will be on my side" without stopping to consider the lack of significance of what he'd found
it's probably also worth mentioning that scorpious's read on me has flipped from initially suspicious of me (in
21 and
203), to town (
220), then back to null (
362), then back to town (
401), though given the post he just wrote above I'm guessing it's moving back down again
if you haven't noticed, these changes tend to be opportunistically correlated with how much heat I'm getting from other players at the time
