Mini Normal 2262: NbITGBSMoD [game over]

[Andante]

saying that wave is clear to him if scorp flips red says nothing about a read on wave before the flip. read the post again

I read the post, and I hate reads like "well X is locktown if Y is red" like, no.. you flip the person then you look back for people spewed town by that, you don't make the leap before a flip happens. Like, this whole train of thought relies on X flipping red. what if X doesn't flip red? it's not a thought process I support right now

[fireisredsir]

i don't tend to analyze preflip either, but considering he's in danger of dying today, he may not have a chance to share that thought after the flip

[fireisredsir]

obviously if X doesn't flip red then the read doesn't ever come into effect. he isn't townreading wave right now. it's a conditional

[Andante]

obviously if X doesn't flip red then the read doesn't ever come into effect. he isn't townreading wave right now. it's a conditional

Ok but like, how does a conditional read help us? I can sit here going "IF STEPHEN FLIPS MAF DWLEE IS TOWN!!!" all day long. very low effort. I mean, I think it's universally understood scum!stephen doesnt start with a 2 page push on a partner. but that read tells me nothing about dwlee. if stephen flips town, my conditional read is useless. and thus, no point in even bringing it up

[Andante]

now if I were to sit here going "I tr dwlee for this..." much more helpful than just going "well.. my reads are conditional"

[fireisredsir]

i don't see the big issue with sharing a thought even if it isn't immediately useful

[Andante]

well my issue is that we're at 1000 posts and it's day 1...

[Andante]

AND most of the posts are giant wall posts.. not easy to read

[Stephen A Smith]

I'm not going to lie I stopped reading like 25 pages ago how is hockey guy still alive?

[Andante]

hockey claimed backup so people decided to keep hockey

[Andante]

I gave up reading the game, just interacting in live time/ISOing

[Andante]

and then Eyes claimed VT to save hockey or something?

[HockeyFan]

what???

[HockeyFan]

"save me"?. No, its not good gameplay to vote a PR, so obiously hes not gonna want me voted, and No he did not claim to save me. If him claiming VT to want himself to get voted is "saving" me, that stupid

[Andante]

what???

yes?

[HockeyFan]

And if Scorpious flips red wave is cleared in my PoV. Just a heads up (also a reminder of how I work)

This is like the easiest read to make ever, but I still think it comes from town!Eyes

[Andante]

I mean, I half followed what was happening there with the claims, I know you claimed at e-2 and Eyes jumped in like "HEY IM A VT!"

[HockeyFan]

yea, idk what the point of him claiming was but I dont think the point of it was to "save me'. In fact him claiming VT right then and there makes him more likely to be town

[Andante]

why would that make him more likely to be town? claiming VT just tells maf to not kill you. there was no reason to claim

[Andante]

Like, why doesn't town take the road of "don't yeet a PR day 1!!" and instead you're saying town goes "Hey I'm a VT!!" for no reason?

[Andante]

cause the least towny thing a VT can do really, is claim VT. VTs should be trying to get killed at night so PRs live

[HockeyFan]

why would that make him more likely to be town? claiming VT just tells maf to not kill you. there was no reason to claim

no reason to claim, but was at E-2 to E-3, mmph yeah. referring to 969, lets look at it from the other perspective too. What mafia says "Hey Im a VT!!" when thier wagon is not set in stone just yet

[HockeyFan]

cause the least towny thing a VT can do really, is claim VT. VTs should be trying to get killed at night so PRs live

Disagree with this, but lets agree to disagree

[Andante]

cause the least towny thing a VT can do really, is claim VT. VTs should be trying to get killed at night so PRs live

Disagree with this, but lets agree to disagree

so you're saying we should ask everyone who is a VT to just claim now? or are you saying you'd rather see PRs die than VTs?

[HockeyFan]

no, Im not saying all VTs should claim rn, its a case by case thing, in eyes case it was good for him to claim VT imo, since now he looks more town to me, and the mroe town reads town gets, the faster we can get to scum