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Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:26 pm

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I think it goes without saying that me getting to L-1 and now have like 5 votes in the matter of 7 or 8 hours means scum are all over me
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Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:27 pm

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how do you propose we sort frozen/nero?
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Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:28 pm

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In post 1372, wavemode wrote:in what universe is that more likely to be scum than scorp is
Why can't they both be scum? Especially when Greeting is saying.
In post 1074, Greeting wrote:I'm more hesitant on Scorpious
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Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:32 pm

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it's more of a gut read from me but greeting just feels like he is being too careful. he knows that he gets suspicion a lot and I think his presence in this game is intentionally trying to not step on any toes. i don't really expect to get a lim on him but I was just throwing it out there
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Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:34 pm

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ya ditto
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Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:35 pm

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his iso is just very... beige
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Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:36 pm

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I think Greetings vote on me is really really bad
In post 1074, Greeting wrote:My conclusion is that it's full of indecisiveness, throwing hooks and attempts to catch other players over mere words
this is just words with no examples.
In post 1074, Greeting wrote:There might be a scum or even two amongst those coloured light green. I'm just unable to spot them yet.
this line also reads very conscientious to me.

Greeting seems way harder to vote than scorp does
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Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:37 pm

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VOTE: greeting
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Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:41 pm

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VOTE: Greeting o heck yeeeah
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Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:41 pm

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this won't like, do anything to fix the clutter problem, is my main concern
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Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:43 pm

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but dead scum is dead scum. I'll also spoil all my walls to Angel.
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Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:44 pm

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yeah I'll defs take dead scum

scorp/greeting wagons would be so nice.
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Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:11 pm

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In post 1376, the worst wrote:how do you propose we sort frozen/nero?
By ....voting one of them?
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Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:14 pm

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I'm confused then b/c didn't you say that the 1v1 was bs and that I sounded more towny than her (but you have me at null b/c I'm experienced.)
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Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:17 pm

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Okay, I'm just trying to catch up from my last post and even that is a ridiculous amount of reading but I have to ask if Andante is possibly on drugs based on her behavior around the Nero wagon on pages 49+ or so
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Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:21 pm

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In post 1387, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 1376, the worst wrote:how do you propose we sort frozen/nero?
By ....voting one of them?
nero flips town: then what?
nero flips scum: then what?
frozen flips town: then what?
frozen flips scum: then what?

i don't think this is something that is resolved by flipping one of them. i think flipping one of them to try and solve it instead of flipping scum is pointless, when we can just flip scum. :P
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Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:21 pm

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Not commenting on everything because I've seen enough complaints about wall posts and don't want to exacerbate it (also I don't want to read them)
In post 1044, Andante wrote:
In post 1041, Umlaut wrote:Doesn't look like Andante ever answered my question about why Nero is town.
Not gonna lie, probably didn't see it, and if this is in regards to the list I posted early, 6/9 is not calling someone town lol
It was in regards to .
In post 1046, Scorpious wrote:
In post 933, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 857, Scorpious wrote:I’d like more from umlaut. We have zero on that slot. A catch up to 15 the a benign question. When do we consider limming that slot?
In post 885, Scorpious wrote:regardless, when do we consider limming that slot? as of now i feel we lose nothing except a place for scum to hide,and who knows,maybe we get lucky.
In post 902, Scorpious wrote:VOTE: umlaut

This slot is useless right now. Will gladly remove vote if content is produced. Just a smart play to get rid of this slot.
how else should we interpret this other than you want to lim them for the hell of it?
is this post real? you quoted three reason why its not for the hell of it.
This feels like you're pushing a policy launch when there are actual reads to be made. I would get it if you were pushing me as a compromise at EOD but why would "inactive" be enough to make me your #1 launch candidate?
In post 1049, Andante wrote:lol yall are just funny tbh, like, these massive 1v1 cases... what is that actually doing to find maf? like if you think about it, if you spend all your effort tunneling someone, you'll get locked into "They must be scum!!" and like, you'll refuse to TR them.. so then you spend page after page making wallposts on why that person is maf, so then you have town like me. Who look at the thread, and go "ok nah.. not jumping into that" so then town like me just kinda ignore the thread, get super behind, and at the end of deadline, we'll just end up random voting... like, all these 1v1s are just so weird to me, like, why so many!!! why not just work together on reads? like if I bus my partner for you to tr me.. maf gone. easy!!! not 1000 posts of "meta this, meta says you maf!" nonsense
Don't like this post because it feels like Andante is trying to position herself as the "voice of reason"
In post 1061, Frozen Angel wrote:Like what are you threatening me off? I'm not backing off from my read unless if you show me where I'm wrong with it or have other explanations for it.

You think I will not fix my read if I realize I'm wrong with it?

You think I will not call out scum cause no one else is pushing him but me?
Very +town
In post 1076, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1072, Frozen Angel wrote:Not actually I have a town read on the worst for overkill last post not even realizing he is replaced out and worst reacting in real time to discussions felt natuaral. And stephen is an early town lean of mine for his early reation test but i have less confidence with that read.

Thoughts on a Nero Umlaut scum team?
This is just sad, why in the world would you try to push me and Nero as a team when you yourself claim I have done nothing and therefore have no associatives?
In post 1124, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 806, Scorpious wrote:bored VT
wait, I just had the most random realization about this post

When did you ever see me play VT?
I kind of like this realization, it suggests Dwlee is going back and rereading and actually cares to try and sort people accurately, don't know why Andante seems to dislike it.
In post 1191, Andante wrote:
In post 1187, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 745, Andante wrote:I'm pretty sure Nero is town here, unsure on Frozen so far
what changed from this andante?
cause Nero was reminding me of a Nero I played with before in a huge game, actually never checked the alignment there lol
In post 1193, Andante wrote:yeah no, nero was town there, I'm sheeping Frozen cause why not?
This is... really weird, why would you trust Frozen's read over your own?
In post 1233, Frozen Angel wrote:Adante - This looked like the easiest bus in history by jumping on that wagon right before she couldn't without hammering without giving a fuck about who it is on and by making that switch

and she literally admitted to doing the switch for no reason while still claiming she is town reading nero

Am I losing my mind or is this really happening
In post 1248, the worst wrote:andante's blatant disregard for the life of one of her townreads is a thing right? this isn't a mirage?
QFT on both of these
In post 1301, Frozen Angel wrote:I even see it as a possibility that we have 3 scum in scorp andante and nero right now and it all make so much sense to me that I want to even cry
Do you think Andante and Scorpious really bus Nero back to back? I mean it's possible but do you think it's the most likely thing to have happened?
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Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:25 pm

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In post 1334, Greeting wrote:What's the record for largest amount of posts on Day 1 in a Mini Normal? We might be heading towards that.
I was in a game that reached page 94 on day 1

and then got re-rolled because of a mod error.
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Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:26 pm

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though that was actually an open, so I guess not a counterexample.
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Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:33 pm

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I could vote Andante but Nero is still the bigger wagon and I like it more.

Scorp's continued insistence on pushing me is so dumb that I don't think it comes from scum, scum could find someone better to scumread.
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Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:36 pm

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What do you like about it?
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Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:41 pm

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I like its chances of hitting scum
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Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:42 pm

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another greeting point. the progression from to is weird in a similar way to what I pointed out in . first he is scumreading Stephen and thinks his argument and pressure is way out of line, his play is disruptive, his rebuffs are aggressive, and he plans to vote there until Stephen convinces him he's town. then in 405, when questioned on that, he says he got nothing of the argument besides the fact that it happened, which is not what he said before and dodges frozen's 2nd point completely. he then never mentions Stephen again except to ask why he's scumreading hockey, and then has him as a light green townread in . the progression from scumread to townread is fine, i guess, since i think Stephen started looking more towny, but the way that he kind of softens towards null when put under questioning is really scummy imo
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Post Post #1398 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:48 pm

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Not going to go back through a zillion posts
again
to make a case on Nero that's already been made but: Vote onto Hockey wagon early was bad, hedgey fence-sitting "this claim is probably fake unless it's real" reaction was bad and exactly what I expect from scum hoping to let a miselim go through without getting blamed for it, hyperdefensive response to my asking Andante to explain her townread, comes out badly in back-and-forth with FA, haven't seen anything particularly "I wouldn't expect that from scum" to counter any of this
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Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:55 pm

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In post 1397, fireisredsir wrote:another greeting point. the progression from to is weird in a similar way to what I pointed out in . first he is scumreading Stephen and thinks his argument and pressure is way out of line, his play is disruptive, his rebuffs are aggressive, and he plans to vote there until Stephen convinces him he's town. then in 405, when questioned on that, he says he got nothing of the argument besides the fact that it happened, which is not what he said before and dodges frozen's 2nd point completely. he then never mentions Stephen again except to ask why he's scumreading hockey, and then has him as a light green townread in . the progression from scumread to townread is fine, i guess, since i think Stephen started looking more towny,
but the way that he kind of softens towards null when put under questioning is really scummy imo
Emphasis mine. When did this last thing happen? Greeting hasn't made another substantial post since 1074.
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