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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:23 pm

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How bad an idea is it to just kill Angel and then make the WIFOM argument that Nero wouldn't dare?

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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:49 am

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seriously though. Poor Greeting...
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:27 am

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I'm not worried about living and its prob a net positive if I die b/c then the alien is useless as long as you guys are on me to get that sweet sweet town cred. Killing Angel also means no one would have to read her anymore and we'd be hailed as heros!

but counterpoint is to NOT kill Angel and just let me soak up her attention. Maybe that ends up with my elimination but I don't think that would be all bad for ^ reasons.

If we were to kill wave would that put too much attention on Scorp?
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:36 am

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did AD soft claim vig or is that an attempt at trying to draw the kill?
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:57 am

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Nero, I mostly agree you are probably not destined to survive this game. I think if we win the game then either Scorpious or I has to be the one to make it to f3.

If we shoot Angel, and then Scorpious and I both insist tomorrow on the simple explanation that you are scum, I guarantee
someone
is going to take the opposite side and claim it makes you town because "scum would be afraid to do that" or that they aren't sure what to make of it. At which point, if ever you do flip, no one will believe we three are scum together and we will have ready pushes on whoever was on the fence about you.

Pretty much all Angel has done is tunnel you which makes it hard for her death to really inform reads on anyone else.

Wave is a good player and we'll likely have to shoot him eventually, but if we give it another day maybe he will move on to another read and it won't point to Scorp in particular. I generally like the idea of "locking in" good players on their bad reads by shooting them before they get around to changing them.

I think AD did sort of softclaim vig but (1) I generally don't take vig softclaims seriously, and (2) her reads are very wrong rn anyway so I wouldn't worry about it.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:58 am

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In post 101, Scorpious wrote:seriously though. Poor Greeting...
I wasn't kidding about not getting the case on Greeting, I'm amazed at how town talked themselves into that
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:29 am

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He was yeeted last game we played on the worst wagon I’ve ever seen.
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:30 am

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What if I jail Wave?
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:12 am

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I was gonna say jail me just in case AD is a vig and decides to shoot not eyes.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:12 am

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im fine with an angel kill if thats what you guys wanna do
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:10 am

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I can do that Nero if you would feel that’s a good play.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:28 am

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Who would you kill if it were up to you, Scorpious? How about you, Nero? Obviously I like my suggestion but I'm happy to hear others.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:54 am

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I mean, AD already voted me twice so I don't think its a huge stretch that she might shoot me. But she sorta said she'd shoot eyes so lets let her? Other than protecting me his power is a random shot.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:55 am

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Also no redactions from me. Lets get this stupid thing out of the way.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:48 pm

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Jail me or Nero and have the other execute the kill, agree on that. Might as well be Nero gets jailed and I kill. I feel like I'm a more likely cop shot than Nero though since I've made myself harder to get a read on
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:36 pm

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Jail Nero
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:36 pm

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Now who gets sauce?
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:21 pm

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I shoot Frozen Angel


If anyone has a better idea offer it but I think this is good.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 4:04 pm

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C’mon it was a little cool how I took them from intent to hammer to Greeting, I know it wasn’t ALL me but for someone who sucks at this. I feel pretty proud of that.
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:38 pm

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scorp could also do both actions if you wanted b/c we are hardworking and multitasking
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:41 pm

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In post 104, Umlaut wrote:Pretty much all Angel has done is tunnel you which makes it hard for her death to really inform reads on anyone else.
Angel kill is still fine with me but she was also scumreading AD and Eyes. And then Scorp later n.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:44 pm

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In post 98, Scorpious wrote:Ill take ugly lol
sorta agree. 2/3 of us getting pushed was maybe not great but I think it might be okb/c when one is super townie and never gets nked you always get the "y r u still alive?" WIFOM
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2022 12:15 am

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In post 115, Scorpious wrote:
Jail Nero
In post 117, Umlaut wrote:
I shoot Frozen Angel
these are noted as the current night actions!
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:30 am

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In post 119, Nero Cain wrote:scorp could also do both actions if you wanted b/c we are hardworking and multitasking
Oh right.

Do you think that's better? It's really down to who is more likely to be tracked/blocked/whatever between us. I think Scorp getting caught taking
two
actions would be kind of catastrophic because (1) he would definitely get lunched, and (2) after he flipped everyone would know he jailed you and could probably conclude you're also mafia. But also I think I'm the least suspected of the three of us right now (no one has me as a strong townread but no one really wants me dead either) so keeping me squeaky clean might make sense too.

I don't know, if Scorp wants to take the kill he can.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:55 am

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I really think I should not multitask
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