MT 2263: Web of Lies - Game Over

[Morning Tweet]

It's more common for experienced scum players to do since sometimes not killing anybody is just more valuable if it positively affects your members

especially in a game where killing me, or Noraa, or Mathblade, or Flea does not really that much to help scum at all. They are going to have to do better i think

Course

maybe not and it is a PR. I dunno yet

But I agree with Noraa I think nokill is a bit more likely

[MathBlade]

- Dead town can speak forever if they're in a created hood
- Town can speak during night
- Town Loud Backup Modified Traffic Analyst Neighbor (Stephen)
- an average of 2.5ish neighbourizers for town
- a limited cop of sorts (Strange)

MB, question.
Why didn't you share LLD's full claim in the mass neighborhood?
Your entire PoE was in the thread LLD posted their role in.
So why deny the town information?

Are u talkin to me?

Give me a second gonna drop a theory in our hood. I want you to verify me

[Morning Tweet]

My strongest evidence is I feel town is way too stacked

[Morning Tweet]

remember anyone who is mildly protown is basically a treestump

[Bell]

MB, question.
Why didn't you share LLD's full claim in the mass neighborhood?
Your entire PoE was in the thread LLD posted their role in.
So why deny the town information?

Because while I have a PoE
I am a replacement and don’t just go sharing unverified claims
Especially when unsure if they are true or not.

I was and still am working on incomplete information.

I figure if the hood was pure then whether LLD claimed invest or mason or protective then scum don’t know

Do I think it’s pure? Obviously not

Do I trust the claim? Not sure.

The hood isn't pure in almost any circumstance that I can think of, but you did just replace in, so I'll give you a pass for your unfamiliarity with the set up. It's waste of my time to go into philosophy about whether people should be informed and decide for themselves in a game like mafia, where, that's pretty much the case. Scum team absolutely knew about LLD's claim. By hiding it, lie or not. All you did was deny town that same information.

[Morning Tweet]

And the whole cops thing

Althoouuuughhhh it's true that we have a bit more in the way of clears than we're supposed to. I forgot about that, not all of Steph/Math/Flea shouldn't be clear. Just me and..... i dont remember who Strange targetted. NORAA

[Morning Tweet]

I feel like Im the only one who is assuming Flea/MathBlade/(Steph) are town literally every time due to Malcolm. Am I wrong?

[Bell]

Flea is, in my opinion, behaviorally cleared. Until elo where I guess you could get extra paranoid for fun.

Math is just an artifact of my house read. I'm pretty sure if they replaced into anybody else's slot I'd have been tunneled on math again because this isn't the first time he tried to get me eliminated for a 'scum' slip.

[Ircher]

Day 3 VC #2

Enchant

(1): Bell (1072)

Bell

(1): MathBlade (1068)

Not Voting

(8): Noraa, Morning Tweet, StrangeMatter, Lady Lambdadelta, Flea The Magician, Dunnstral, Lukewarm, Enchant

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to fade a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end no later than Monday, February 28, 2022 10:00:00 PM EST or in (expired on 2022-02-28 22:00:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, please inform me each week.
2: Please let me know if you have a different pronoun preference than listed below.

Pronoun Key

1: MathBlade : he/his
3: Dunnstral : he/his
4: Lady Lambdadelta : she/her
5: Almost50 : he/his
6: Lukewarm : he/his
7: Enchant : no preference
8: Bell : he/his
9: StrangeMatter : she/her
11: Morning Tweet : she/her
12: Noraa : she/her
13: Flea The Magician : fae/faer

[Bell]

Steph is dead, so I feel pretty good about that one being cleared.

[MathBlade]

I feel like Im the only one who is assuming Flea/MathBlade/(Steph) are town literally every time due to Malcolm. Am I wrong?

I think the main issue is we don’t know what scum have or don’t have here.

I think there’s a bit of give and take but I think Mafia losing a neighborizer that could fuck with SM hurt a lot

[Noraa]

nah math is town.

[Noraa]

I think Mafia losing a neighborizer that could fuck with SM hurt a lot

wait what?

[Morning Tweet]

Flea is, in my opinion, behaviorally cleared. Until elo where I guess you could get extra paranoid for fun.

Math is just an artifact of my house read. I'm pretty sure if they replaced into anybody else's slot I'd have been tunneled on math again because this isn't the first time he tried to get me eliminated for a 'scum' slip.

Flea obviously got cleared harder but Flea is saying that Malcolm slipped Math/(steph) town too

The only world that's not town is if Malcolm was coached into scumslipping, no?

[Noraa]

oh the malcom dude who died before i even got here. fun stuff

[Morning Tweet]

I think Mafia losing a neighborizer that could fuck with SM hurt a lot

wait what?

That's a pretty good point although SM could've gotten away with not explaining to us everything before stacking some results (in a different run of this)

Also, what if mafia don't get a neighbourizer?

But I do see what you mean

[MathBlade]

Night 1 begins!

You are all gathered around a gigantic table. Each of you is holding several cards in your hands. One of you asks the person to their left, "Do you have any threes?" They respond, "Nope, go fish!" The first person then gets up in a fit of rage and leaves the room. They are never seen again.

MalcolmTucker,

Mafia Neighborizer Neighbor

, faded into obscurity day 1.

Night ends on Friday, February 18, 2022, 10:30 AM EST (UTC-5:00) or in (expired on 2022-02-18 10:30:00).

Night actions are due at least 15 minutes before the deadline.

Since day ended before he responded, GrandpaMo must respond to the night start pm.

Fast night is an option if all living players agree to it.

Malcolm was a neighborizer

That was pretty pro scum if SM is town

We coordinate something then Malcolm could hood around it.

[Morning Tweet]

the role could also just not tell us who they are investigating which would help a bit

[Morning Tweet]

Night 1 begins!

You are all gathered around a gigantic table. Each of you is holding several cards in your hands. One of you asks the person to their left, "Do you have any threes?" They respond, "Nope, go fish!" The first person then gets up in a fit of rage and leaves the room. They are never seen again.

MalcolmTucker,

Mafia Neighborizer Neighbor

, faded into obscurity day 1.

Night ends on Friday, February 18, 2022, 10:30 AM EST (UTC-5:00) or in (expired on 2022-02-18 10:30:00).

Night actions are due at least 15 minutes before the deadline.

Since day ended before he responded, GrandpaMo must respond to the night start pm.

Fast night is an option if all living players agree to it.

Malcolm was a neighborizer

That was pretty pro scum if SM is town

We coordinate something then Malcolm could hood around it.

Malcolm got that role randomly though.

[Bell]

Are the mass neighborizor's one shot, because otherwise it seems a simple matter based on the priority we've learned about to force the neighborizor to correct for the mistake.

But proceed, maybe I'm missing something.

[Morning Tweet]

Also if scum neighbourized people who SM is investigating.... we burn that person on a stake no? They'd have to openwolf

[Noraa]

Town: Noraa
Dunn

Morning Tweet
StrangeMatter

Mathblade

Flea
Lukewarm

Scum with 1 town:
Enchant
LLD
Bell

[Lukewarm]

One thing tweetie, is that we got 2 invests out of SM, which feels strong, but I don't think that that was the expected outcome from her role.

It only worked because everyone outed what hoods they were in and you, Noraa, and Strange all claimed your roles

That is what allowed us to coordinate the hoods lists to find targets she could invest.

If Strange never claimed, Noraa would be in her own hood, and immune to Stranger's invest.

If you never claimed, strange could have pulled a false guilty on you not knowing you were in your hood.

[MathBlade]

Night 1 begins!

You are all gathered around a gigantic table. Each of you is holding several cards in your hands. One of you asks the person to their left, "Do you have any threes?" They respond, "Nope, go fish!" The first person then gets up in a fit of rage and leaves the room. They are never seen again.

MalcolmTucker,

Mafia Neighborizer Neighbor

, faded into obscurity day 1.

Night ends on Friday, February 18, 2022, 10:30 AM EST (UTC-5:00) or in (expired on 2022-02-18 10:30:00).

Night actions are due at least 15 minutes before the deadline.

Since day ended before he responded, GrandpaMo must respond to the night start pm.

Fast night is an option if all living players agree to it.

Malcolm was a neighborizer

That was pretty pro scum if SM is town

We coordinate something then Malcolm could hood around it.

Malcolm got that role randomly though.

Are you sure? There’s no reason scum don’t also have a neighborizer and randomly get one?

The odds of all town neighborizers is very low

[Morning Tweet]

Town: Noraa
Dunn

Morning Tweet
StrangeMatter

Mathblade

Flea
Lukewarm

Scum with 1 town:
Enchant
LLD
Bell

HOW is dunn townier than a mech clear?!?!?!?!