MT 2263: Web of Lies - Game Over

[Morning Tweet]

Also fakeclaims have fake modifiers all the time.

You make a good point that Macho makes not a lot of sense. But that's kinda WIFOM for you I guess. It sounds so out there that it must be true kinda thing.

Why did you take the claim for granted when you first heard it as well as tbh still now?

pedit: Oh LLD claimed this middle of night one?

VOTE: LLD

No she claimed last night

I didn’t believe it immediately but benefit of doubt since that catastrophe we shouldn’t mention happened

Oh

Do you think it's believable that LLD claimed because of that then? I see

[Morning Tweet]

No she claimed last night

why was she not nked then??? literally that hood has at least 1 scum right? you said it had both bell and enchant. thats min 1 scum 100%

Because that's an awful nightkill?

[Bell]

i want to know who LLD protected last night before doing anything though since i think macho weakens prs also idk anything about how setup balancing works.

Townie post.


MB, your decision not to share LLD's information with what would largely be a group of town player was incorrect, but it's largely immaterial.

[Morning Tweet]

Remember Noraa there are like 5 confirm town and about 3 viable elimination targets and LLD is one of the latter

If scum kills LLD that's an autolose

[Lukewarm]

i think i believe it maybe? i mean the prs arent really that stacked? like i think the reviewing process just glazed tf over the fact that SM's role wasnt totally useless. because when i first heard it, i thought it was really useless.

Macho and guarding Flea N1 doesn’t make sense though

why not?

Macho is a useless modifier unless another protective exists
Which I doubt

Guarding Flea who caught the slip over the two conf towns who were cleared and roles unknown doesn’t make much sense. Iirc SM also claimed D1 or was it D2 I can’t read my notes

Either way scum don’t shoot Flea as that reveals 2 clears
They kill the clears individually then come back for Flea

Strange had not claimed yet (claimed middle of night 1, lld could not see it)

I felt like the scum kill would have been between Stephen and Flea. Both seemed equally cleared by the Malcolm flip.

House to a lesser extent

Unprompted though?

There’s no reason to claim though

She’s just like

“Well I think I need to claim”

Like lmao

I feel like you are responding to your thoughts instead of my words again

I agree that the macho modifier is weird.
I agree that it is weird that she claimed unprompted.
I think it is weird that she included how many shots she had and that one was used.

All my post did was clarify the timeline of strange matters claim, and state who I expected the night 1 kill to be.

[Noraa]

hmmm thats true. but LLD is a pr god this setup is truly horrendous for scum

[MathBlade]

Also fakeclaims have fake modifiers all the time.

You make a good point that Macho makes not a lot of sense. But that's kinda WIFOM for you I guess. It sounds so out there that it must be true kinda thing.

Why did you take the claim for granted when you first heard it as well as tbh still now?

pedit: Oh LLD claimed this middle of night one?

VOTE: LLD

No she claimed last night

I didn’t believe it immediately but benefit of doubt since that catastrophe we shouldn’t mention happened

Oh

Do you think it's believable that LLD claimed because of that then? I see

No I don’t.

I called her out on it soon as she claimed it.

I think she claimed because she needed something to townfirm her and came up with the idea and no killed

I just didn’t have the heart to push too hard on it

I just said like “Macho doesn’t make sense”.

[Morning Tweet]

i want to know who LLD protected last night before doing anything though since i think macho weakens prs also idk anything about how setup balancing works.

Townie post.

MB, your decision not to share LLD's information with what would largely be a group of town player was incorrect, but it's largely immaterial.

WHY ARE YOU CALLING THE N1 COP CLEAR TOWNIE'

THIS GAME IS CONFUSING ME SO HARD NOW

UNVOTE:

[Morning Tweet]

Also fakeclaims have fake modifiers all the time.

You make a good point that Macho makes not a lot of sense. But that's kinda WIFOM for you I guess. It sounds so out there that it must be true kinda thing.

Why did you take the claim for granted when you first heard it as well as tbh still now?

pedit: Oh LLD claimed this middle of night one?

VOTE: LLD

No she claimed last night

I didn’t believe it immediately but benefit of doubt since that catastrophe we shouldn’t mention happened

Oh

Do you think it's believable that LLD claimed because of that then? I see

No I don’t.

I called her out on it soon as she claimed it.

I think she claimed because she needed something to townfirm her and came up with the idea and no killed

I just didn’t have the heart to push too hard on it

I just said like “Macho doesn’t make sense”.

I think you're right. I also think in your shoes I probably woulda made the same decision to wait on it

[Bell]

I can't turn off my automatic hunting protocol.
That's no fun.

[Noraa]

i want to know who LLD protected last night before doing anything though since i think macho weakens prs also idk anything about how setup balancing works.

Townie post.

MB, your decision not to share LLD's information with what would largely be a group of town player was incorrect, but it's largely immaterial.

WHY ARE YOU CALLING THE N1 COP CLEAR TOWNIE'

THIS GAME IS CONFUSING ME SO HARD NOW

UNVOTE:

noraa towny >.<

[Bell]

Don't see why LLD wouldn't just shoot SM or MT.

I guess LLD might have claimed Macho to prevent a counter claim from another protective.

[MathBlade]

Don't see why LLD wouldn't just shoot SM or MT.

I guess LLD might have claimed Macho to prevent a counter claim from another protective.

Shooting SM would have people ask why she didn’t protect SM
Shooting MT is a complicit shot that SM is town and the damage is still done
Scum have to sneak into the town locks and get out of the PoE
So LLD likely gambited to put herself there.

[Noraa]

actually no im bored of waiting
blood for the blood gods
FLASHWAGON TIME~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee if i kill a town pr, im terribly sorry but its ok we'll still win hehe
VOTE: LLD

[MathBlade]

The PoE due to things LLD wasn’t aware of is actually much smaller than she thinks and so soon as she did that she kinda scumfirmed herself to me

[Noraa]

all aboard. one townpass per person if this flips scum. if not, sowwy ;-;

[Morning Tweet]

I can't turn off my automatic hunting protocol.
That's no fun.

But like you don't have it indexed who is mech town? That's basically the only thing I have since i havent been reading much

Noraa/Morning are innocent says StrangeMatter
Flea is hard town due to Malcolm slip
Math/(steph) are soft town to malcolm slip. Although I thought House was really obvious town and now same for Math more likely than not
Lukewarm is transparent town

Bell I had as lean town. Your approach to LLD's claim is a bit odd to me which is my only gripe -- it feels like you're giving it too much leniency

Then Enchant/Dunn/LLD

Don't see why LLD wouldn't just shoot SM or MT.

I guess LLD might have claimed Macho to prevent a counter claim from another protective.

It's true that there are a lot of confirm/highly likely town to kill off right now.

However, after they die, they still speak and give results so there's that downside. Also keep in mind, even if you kill Strange, they still post the result. Also keep in mind this is Strange's last result

And then also remember that Morning is barely playing the game at all (Also, LLD can't see me post at all! I didn't get to post here last phase and we dont have a hood)

My thoughts are that you have to do something.

Also that is a really really good guess WTF

[Morning Tweet]

I guess LLD might have claimed Macho to prevent a counter claim from another protective.

I would have never thought of this

Does that even work actually? Doesn't Macho imply another protective?

[Bell]

No I mean, if there was another protective they wouldn't be quite as paranoid/murder happy to attack them in the off chance there was one.

[MathBlade]

all aboard. one townpass per person if this flips scum. if not, sowwy ;-;

VOTE: LLD

Claiming mine.

[MathBlade]

If Bell was town he’d see the claim as BS.

With X after death there’s almost never a true protective.

[Bell]

I'm not giving it any leniency at all though.
I'm pretty much going through all the things I can think of to explore it and where I decide to stand on it.
It should be noted that I don't know how to push LLD though.

[MathBlade]

I'm not giving it any leniency at all though.
I'm pretty much going through all the things I can think of to explore it and where I decide to stand on it.
It should be noted that I don't know how to push LLD though.

Devils advocate

What are you undecided on?

[Noraa]

all aboard. one townpass per person if this flips scum. if not, sowwy ;-;

VOTE: LLD

Claiming mine.

welcome aboard!!!!! we haz hot choco and lots of marshmallows!!

[MathBlade]

all aboard. one townpass per person if this flips scum. if not, sowwy ;-;

VOTE: LLD

Claiming mine.

welcome aboard!!!!! we haz hot choco and lots of marshmallows!!

I will take marshmallows. I can’t has chocolate