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Post Post #1325 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:09 pm

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We're probably just too alike to get along. But I have a theory that Mathblade is just what an enemy is.
I've never had one of those before in mafia. It's not very helpful or productive but I find myself emotionally more annoyed with them then is really fair to them.

But I do understand it. Sort of.
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Post Post #1326 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:10 pm

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:( I think I am being nice :(

I am sorry I am hurting your feelings
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Post Post #1327 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:12 pm

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Look Mathblade,
you said I scum slipped.
I fucking didn't.
You've single handedly derailed the town from a cleaner victory. Than what otherwise might be the case.
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Post Post #1328 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:13 pm

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I think you did?

And if you didn’t there’s LLD + Enchant?

I don’t see what the big deal is. From your POV game is solved?
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Post Post #1329 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:15 pm

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I can appreciate the irony of a scumslip handing us the game and then it becoming a distraction in future phases

The scumslip has not and has never mattered to me though I just care about LLD and the claim, nothing else. But we're talking about all of this instead and it's getting frustrating

I keep trying to talk in here cause i dont like hoods and i want to hear everyone

I must admit I don't envy Math's current position cause he must know no matter who he pushes he's gonna get so much pushback
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Post Post #1330 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:17 pm

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In post 1329, Morning Tweet wrote:I can appreciate the irony of a scumslip handing us the game and then it becoming a distraction in future phases

The scumslip has not and has never mattered to me though I just care about LLD and the claim, nothing else. But we're talking about all of this instead and it's getting frustrating

I keep trying to talk in here cause i dont like hoods and i want to hear everyone

I must admit I don't envy Math's current position cause he must know no matter who he pushes he's gonna get so much pushback
Yeah

Post game there’s gonna be words.

I kinda wanna get to post game ASAP just to rip off the bandaid
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Post Post #1331 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:18 pm

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My PoE is broader than yours is, Math.

I think the PoE is in (SM, LLD, Dunnstral, Enchant)
and probably(but not likely based on play, more on Noraa's side than on MT's) an outgrowth where Noraa or MT can be scum if SM is.
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Post Post #1332 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:19 pm

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MT, I don't really get how us posting has to do with whenever LLD decides to come in and post or not post.
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Post Post #1333 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:19 pm

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In post 1331, Bell wrote:My PoE is broader than yours is, Math.

I think the PoE is in (SM, LLD, Dunnstral, Enchant)
and probably(but not likely based on play, more on Noraa's side than on MT's) an outgrowth where Noraa or MT can be scum if SM is.
Dunn has an inno
SM can’t be scum.

Your PoE is fixed
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Post Post #1334 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:21 pm

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Okay i see Bell didn't actually auto assume LLD was telling the truth i just got confused by something he worded

I still think LLD is more likely to be fake claiming

Bell is probably a bit more town now. Back when I noticed him only playing contrarian to Math I kinda thought it was cuz he had to save LLD or win or something

Now I think Bell is irritated at the scumslip thing and i was picking up more of that than anything
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Post Post #1335 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:22 pm

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In post 1333, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1331, Bell wrote:My PoE is broader than yours is, Math.

I think the PoE is in (SM, LLD, Dunnstral, Enchant)
and probably(but not likely based on play, more on Noraa's side than on MT's) an outgrowth where Noraa or MT can be scum if SM is.
Dunn has an inno
SM can’t be scum.

Your PoE is fixed
VOTE: LLD
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Post Post #1336 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:22 pm

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Oh.
Nobody told me he has an Inno.

Don't see why SM can't actually be scum though.
I mean from the perspective of a game designer adding power elsewhere and giving town a back up to a scum safe claim seems reasonable to me.
Regardless of how limited that role may be by the choices people made in regards to the 4 job threads.
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Post Post #1337 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:24 pm

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If LLD flips town kill Dunn

Unless you think town cop dunn and town doctor LLD can both exist with all the aforementioned town power we've been over

in which case, id be interested in hearing more about that theory
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Post Post #1338 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:25 pm

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In post 1336, Bell wrote:Oh.
Nobody told me he has an Inno.

Don't see why SM can't actually be scum though.
I mean from the perspective of a game designer adding power elsewhere and giving town a back up to a scum safe claim seems reasonable to me.
Regardless of how limited that role may be by the choices people made in regards to the 4 job threads.
Yeah Dunn’s a mech clear

SM can’t be scum.

They’ve literally put themselves in a loss.

Assume SM + Enchant

Assume we elim you and LLD and both flip town
Then elim Enchant next day
Then SM v what 5 ish?

I don’t wanna count it.

SM scum just loses.
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Post Post #1339 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:26 pm

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In post 1337, Morning Tweet wrote:If LLD flips town kill Dunn

Unless you think town cop dunn and town doctor LLD can both exist with all the aforementioned town power we've been over

in which case, id be interested in hearing more about that theory
Never kill Dunn
Check the hood MT
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Post Post #1340 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:26 pm

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Did I miss a section where Dunnstral claimed something or something.
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Post Post #1341 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:27 pm

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Dunn and LLD can't both be town so it's fine
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Post Post #1342 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:27 pm

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In post 1340, Bell wrote:Did I miss a section where Dunnstral claimed something or something.
Yeah that's the frustrating part of this game
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Post Post #1343 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:27 pm

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Just kill LLD
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Post Post #1344 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:28 pm

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UNVOTE:

Sigh i hate these hoods and these games
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Post Post #1345 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:29 pm

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I'm sorry for losing my temper.
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Post Post #1346 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:31 pm

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Understandable
Just the PoE is literally LLD you and Enchant

And if it’s not gg something is very very wrong
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Post Post #1347 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:31 pm

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I think... Math is right and StrangeMatter, if scum, has caused themself to lose the game by claiming as many innos as they have

IF. and only if that is true

Then it's game over, vote LLD

That is the game as I understand it
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Post Post #1348 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:38 pm

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In post 1347, Morning Tweet wrote:I think... Math is right and StrangeMatter, if scum, has caused themself to lose the game by claiming as many innos as they have

IF. and only if that is true

Then it's game over, vote LLD

That is the game as I understand it
Pretty much where I am at. I don’t see SM scum winning if they are.
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Post Post #1349 (ISO) » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:40 pm

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Yeah I wish I knew mechanically what is what but it's all so hazy because of the hoods

For instance, I still don't know why some people are being considered confirmed town by others

And I don't know if it's wrong for me to talk about the things I do know ????????? because it's all being kept so secret?

Just a lil annoying

Thematically with the web of lies though I think things are getting in full swing, I genuinely have no idea who knows what, who said what, what exactly has been said.

As amusing as that is, it's not terribly fun to play cause I'm just sitting here counting all the mechanical innocents being thrown around by everyone and trying to math stuff out as for what is possible and likely. not my style at all really.
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