MT 2263: Web of Lies - Game Over

[Morning Tweet]

Meeeh i guess it wasnt like those scum games where he absolutely didnt play

I never got to see Dunn this game at all really tho

[Morning Tweet]

Also, it was nice playing with you Tweetie!

I think you were the only new face for me here (except maybe the Alt?)

I really liked the player list for this game we ended up with for this game

likewise, it was fun!

[Noraa]

Dunn is SOOOOOOOO TOWNY when he's town like genuinely it's like night and day.
like his scum game is just sooooooooo floaty and nothing nothing
but his town game like you read like two posts and ur like holy shit dunn so towny

[Noraa]

one day he's gonna change his meta and im gonna have trust issues lmao but uh until then, noraa gets to run free >:]

[Bell]

gg, I do think the rng was unfortunate, + probably too many PR's and the slip was pretty disastrous. It could have only been worse if he mentioned a buddy or multiple buddy's name in there. Nobody to blame there though that's just high risk. I do think that the player choice at the beginning may also have been in error. I guess in general my novice take on the concept is that there was a lot of tools from a toolbox for one game of mafia. ore like, there were too many fun ideas (mashed together rather than a focused concept.

@MB, it's all right, the problem largely lies with me. Sorry for getting frustrated again.

[Bell]

Work time. *sad face* it was a nice weekend.

I’m interested in hearing if dunnstral has any opinions.

Spoiler:

Ah by the way I'm a friendly neighbor.

So. It's not me.

And it's not Noraa, because they have the traffic analyst result on them.

And it's not StrangeMatter, because they are the Traffic Analyst, of which there was a backup.

And it's not Lukewarm, because he coordinated the above, and didn't interfere with it when he had knowledge*. And their role. And they're organizing favorable checks for the town.

*It may not have been possible to interfere with it due to the nature of neighborhoods

And it's not Flea, because they outted Malcolm when only they had access to that information.

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So that leaves Almost50, Enchant, Morning Tweet, Bell, House, and Lady Lambdadelta.

Feel free to try to narrow it down further, but this is where I am most comfortable drawing the line without feeling like I'm falsely putting someone as town.

*thumbs up*

[MathBlade]

How did yall manage to townread Dunn btw? sometimes he just doesnt try and its always felt a little more common on scum to me

I didn’t. I just trusted the friendly neighbor

I used the line of “eventually Dunn will be a townread” to see if I could bait LLD into scumreading Dunn and it was accurate because eventually Dunn being FN will be outed

[Noraa]

i wonder if given different situations i would be scumread for such a strong TR on dunn because ... tmi?

[Dunnstral]

How did yall manage to townread Dunn btw? sometimes he just doesnt try and its always felt a little more common on scum to me

I claimed in a hood with (dead) Stephen, House/Math, Luke, and Flea

[Morning Tweet]

Yeah but Noraa locktowned you after reading like 5 of your posts and Luke says he had u as town as well

I just wanna know the key

[Morning Tweet]

Also you were present this game I just was never really in the same time/place as you thats mb

[Noraa]

well dunn is very like idgaf what you say vibes when he is town. that is the key

[Noraa]

he doesnt try to make you TR him as town which is part of the reason he's often SRed.
like you call him scummy and he's like ok i dont care, moving on.

but if he's scum, he'll be like hmm talk me through why you think that. do you really think i am scum. and he's a lot more slippery

[Noraa]

thats why dunn floats by more often as scum

[Morning Tweet]

interesting that does ring a bell with Dunn probing into why people are suspecting him as scum before. maybe there's something to it, very insightful

[Noraa]

its all in the tone. there are just posts that cannot be made by anything but town dunn.
maybe he can fake a couple towny posts but (at the point) he cant fake 10 in a row, probably not even 5 in row.
but when you iso him and no post looks like scum dunn made it, dunn is town.

[Noraa]

*at this point

[Noraa]

hmm you could think of it as town dunn is like "im towny, figure it out yourself"

but scum dunn is like mapping out every point in your thought process and actively trying to lead you to the conclusion that he is town.

i dont know how to explain tone @_@

[Lukewarm]

i wonder if given different situations i would be scumread for such a strong TR on dunn because ... tmi?

It crossed my mind. But then I thought that scum would really need to have a Dunn miselim happen.

So, my thought was that if you were scum, you had to know he was a FN. But the only people that knew were [Me, Math, and Flea]

But if one of them was your partner, then SM was town, and has an inno on you.

[Lukewarm]

Yeah but Noraa locktowned you after reading like 5 of your posts and Luke says he had u as town as well

I just wanna know the key

I don't know that I have a firm grasp of how to read Dunn, but I am trying to lol.

I feel like I am getting a little better, I think I have defending him when others were pushing for his miselim in our last like 3 games together.

I will say that the notion that absent Dunn = scum Dunn is completely trash, and no one should use that as a metric to scum read him ever

[Noraa]

you had to know he was a FN

well i guess it would be assuming i could see the hood i made

[Noraa]

I will say that the notion that absent Dunn = scum Dunn is completely trash

partly true but not really. his activity is pretty much the same.

[Lukewarm]

I will say that the notion that absent Dunn = scum Dunn is completely trash

partly true but not really. his activity is pretty much the same.

Which means scum reading him for low activity is a bad way to read him, right?

I feel like you agreed with me

[Lukewarm]

I have seen MANY people say "Dunn is so low activity, this must be scum Dunn" and then consistently be wrong lol

[Noraa]

yeah i think activity is a tell but its not that reliable. i do feel like lower activity does actually mean something for his alignment but idk