Mini Normal 2262: NbITGBSMoD [game over]

[Dwlee99]

I felt like Nero was obviously a PR even D1 sad

Did you hint at this anywhere?

By not voting the Nero wagon?

[Umlaut]

Actually no

VOTE: Andante

Instantly disbelieving a PR claim usually comes from scum imo

I felt like Nero was obviously a PR even D1 sad

Did you hint at this anywhere?

By not voting the Nero wagon?

That means you thought he was obviously town, not obviously a PR. I'm not saying you

should

have hinted at this just asking if you

did

.

[Dwlee99]

I don't know why I'd want to hint that someone was a PR if I thought it

[HockeyFan]

I'm an even night gunsmith so lets not vote town and TW instead.

UNVOTE: Nero

Provisionally accepting this claim, may revisit later depending on what happens. Nero would be a good investigation target if someone has an investigation that distinguishes Town Gunsmith from Mafia [Whatever].

Hockey, can you say whether you are a backup gunsmith specifically, or a backup of something else? (No need to say what else if not gunsmith)

also I don't buy you're a town pr... you were on e-1 before,had like no reaction to it

Why is this bad? If I'm a PR I don't claim until I absolutely have to.

Yes, I am a backup of gunsmith

[Nero Cain]

Nero, tell me why TW.

My scum vibes are tingling. I have a headache and I'm busy later today so I'll go into more detail later but basically I feel like he's just been floating around for most of the game and d1 he went from scum reading Greeting to hopping off Greeting for ???? reason.

[Andante]

lol it's umlaut and nero!!! that's funny

[Dwlee99]

I swear we are never going to kill eyes lol

If there is a vigilante please for the love of god shoot eyes tyvm

[Scorpious]

VOTE: Andante

do you guys really think AD is town?

no,she is your buddy. and when you flip red,she's next

[Dwlee99]

???

[Scorpious]

is Nero's role mechanically possible? I need the big brains for this one.

[wavemode]

Instantly disbelieving a PR claim usually comes from scum imo

I find the opposite is true... scum suffer from TMI, thus they often feel like they *have* to believe claims or else they will look bad once it turns out they are wrong

the only times I've seen someone instantly disbelieve a pre-lylo claim (except a guilty on themself, of course), they've been town

in fact just yesterday fire did not believe hockey's claim. how was that different?

[fireisredsir]

is Nero's role mechanically possible? I need the big brains for this one.

i have a small brain but i don't see why not

[Umlaut]

Instantly disbelieving a PR claim usually comes from scum imo

I find the opposite is true... scum suffer from TMI, thus they often feel like they *have* to believe claims or else they will look bad once it turns out they are wrong

the only times I've seen someone instantly disbelieve a pre-lylo claim (except a guilty on themself, of course), they've been town

in fact just yesterday fire did not believe hockey's claim. how was that different?

I didn't even remember that fire disbelieved hockey's claim. I guess it's only different because I already find Fire towny anyway and Andante I... don't.

I suppose that's a bit confbiasy but I'm not going to scumread someone just for the one thing even if it is +scum, in general I've found Andante's play all over the place and still think her saying that she would/wouldn't/would vote Nero depending on whether that's where the town is going at that moment to be awful, particularly on the condition Nero is town.

[Umlaut]

is Nero's role mechanically possible? I need the big brains for this one.

How would it not be possible? Even-Night Gunsmith is a normal role, that's all that's required.

[Umlaut]

I swear we are never going to kill eyes lol

If there is a vigilante please for the love of god shoot eyes tyvm

Do you really believe scum doubles down on a VT claim when told someone has a mech guilty on them?

[Scorpious]

So if nero has a gun. and Hockey has a gun…

Duck, was all that nonsense yesterday a huge reaction test?

I’m missing what else “mechanically” you could have had results on short of guilty or not guilty, or town or anti town or whatever result your role would claim you’d get. And now we’re really piling up on the town PR’s..

[fireisredsir]

imo the only question is if it makes sense for the setup to have an even-night gunsmith and then a backup gunsmith (which is apparently not even-night). and to that i really have no idea

[fireisredsir]

scorp, duck already said they had nothing on eyes, just that they thought someone else did. and yes that was the inherent problem with their fake, there isn't anything in the normal roles afaik where it would be possible for eyes to be VT but where there was also reason to believe that it was very unlikely. that is also why, when some were hesitant to believe it, that was not very useful info (and thus it did not do much as a reaction test), because things didn't add up even for people with no additional information

[Eyes without a face]

i'm p sure someone else is hinting at a guilty on eyes but i don't really think eyes is scum

Seriously? So you claimed a guilty on me based on your understanding of someone else's crumbs while you yourself didn't think I as scum??
OK.. why didn't that other someone claim the guilty themselves if they had one? And how would you let someone you don't believe to be scum be put @E-1 with intent stated? Not just that you even asked Nero why he didn't hammer away too.

Yeah, I'm not buying this. Not a little bit

[fireisredsir]

p sure that meant that he didn't think you were scum after seeing your reaction, not that he didn't think you were scum at the time of making the claim. and i agree with that view

[Eyes without a face]

They literally posted a game of theirs saying "wow look, people pushing me evil ><" and their play was completely different. Idk what to tell you

THIS from someone who maintains that "meta bad" doesn't look like a farce at all, does it?

[Scorpious]

scorp, duck already said they had nothing on eyes, just that they thought someone else did. and yes that was the inherent problem with their fake, there isn't anything in the normal roles afaik where it would be possible for eyes to be VT but where there was also reason to believe that it was very unlikely. that is also why, when some were hesitant to believe it, that was not very useful info (and thus it did not do much as a reaction test), because things didn't add up even for people with no additional information

I don’t see the town motivation to do that after a hard claim.


VOTE: the worst

[Dwlee99]

They literally posted a game of theirs saying "wow look, people pushing me evil ><" and their play was completely different. Idk what to tell you

THIS from someone who maintains that "meta bad" doesn't look like a farce at all, does it?

Dude who are you an alt of lmao

[Dwlee99]

I swear we are never going to kill eyes lol

If there is a vigilante please for the love of god shoot eyes tyvm

Do you really believe scum doubles down on a VT claim when told someone has a mech guilty on them?

Yes what is the other option

[Stephen A Smith]

I don't believe Nero's claim