Mini Normal 2262: NbITGBSMoD [game over]

[Dwlee99]

Actually... why would scum have an alien and a jailkeeper? Mm am I overthinking this?

[Scorpious]

Actually... why would scum have an alien and a jailkeeper? Mm am I overthinking this?

What does Alien do?

[Dwlee99]

Combined roleblocker rolestopper - roleblocks and prevents roles from successfully targeting the target

Alien enabler implies alien of some sort exists. Town or scum I'm not sure. But if scum they probably wouldn't give scum a jailkeeper and an alien

[Dwlee99]

There's also the question of — who would scorpious have jailkept? If I were scum I'd have blocked the 1-shot rolecop claim (I never actually believed the 1-shot part, didn't expect follower though)

[Dwlee99]

But Scorpious didn't block the rolecop claim so... who would he have? If someone is a town alien you should probably claim

[Scorpious]

dont have to tell me twice to vote scorp
VOTE: Scoepious

I’m thinking it is but can we confirm this is valid?

[wavemode]

For what it's worth, I also think it's weird that they have an alien enabler and a jailkeeper

If I were fakeclaiming I would have just said he abducted. Or just left that part out, the nightkill was enough

As it stands all I can say is, that's a Datisi setup for you lol

[Dwlee99]

dont have to tell me twice to vote scorp
VOTE: Scoepious

I’m thinking it is but can we confirm this is valid?

Confirm what as valid?

[Scorpious]

dont have to tell me twice to vote scorp
VOTE: Scoepious

I’m thinking it is but can we confirm this is valid?

Confirm what as valid?

The vote

[Dwlee99]

For what it's worth, I also think it's weird that they have an alien enabler and a jailkeeper

If I were fakeclaiming I would have just said he abducted. Or just left that part out, the nightkill was enough

As it stands all I can say is, that's a Datisi setup for you lol

That's gonna be counted as a vote yea

[Umlaut]

UNVOTE: Scorpius

I need to think a little more about this. Scorp was

hard

pushing the Nero wagon yesterday and didn't even back off after his claim which would have been the natural time for distancing scum to find something else to do. And claiming VT instead of something possibly compatible with Wave's result is a weird move for scum. (Though also it would be hard to come up with anything compatible with that result so maybe not

so

so weird but still a little weird.)

I don't see a reason for scum!wave to 1v1 Scorpius like this but people do dumb things all the time. Probably the best way to resolve it is just to launch Scorp. But all the same I want to think about whether I really believe it or not

[Umlaut]

Combined roleblocker rolestopper - roleblocks and prevents roles from successfully targeting the target

Alien enabler implies alien of some sort exists. Town or scum I'm not sure. But if scum they probably wouldn't give scum a jailkeeper and an alien

In general, X Enabler doesn't require that an X exist in the setup. It's maybe more likely than not, but not that much given the current typical normal setup these days. NRG is specifically trying to promote setups that discourage "guess the setup" reasoning so having an alien enabler for no reason is not that far out there.

[Dwlee99]

You keep doing this "why would scum not try to claim something compatible" thing but combined jailkeeper vigilante is so ridiculous idk how that's more convincing than going "no you"

[Stephen A Smith]

i had a dream you were a baddie last night dlee

also im ready to launch scorp cuz guilty

[Dwlee99]

Last time you dreamt something wasn't it horribly wrong

[Stephen A Smith]

yea you're lucky in that respect

[Stephen A Smith]

my subconscious mind bailing you out

[Stephen A Smith]

unless I'm getting trolled by my subconscious again

[Stephen A Smith]

i still want to hear what your pr tell on nero was

[Dwlee99]

UNVOTE: Scorpius

I need to think a little more about this. Scorp was

hard

pushing the Nero wagon yesterday and didn't even back off after his claim which would have been the natural time for distancing scum to find something else to do. And claiming VT instead of something possibly compatible with Wave's result is a weird move for scum. (Though also it would be hard to come up with anything compatible with that result so maybe not

so

so weird but still a little weird.)

I don't see a reason for scum!wave to 1v1 Scorpius like this but people do dumb things all the time. Probably the best way to resolve it is just to launch Scorp. But all the same I want to think about whether I really believe it or not

Also: a bit of tinfoil here but if you're scum and you have to deal with a gunsmith, a backup gunsmith, and a rolecop, maybe you purposefully bus the alien enabler to prevent an alien from protecting the gunsmith?

[Dwlee99]

I thought the way Nero approached his wagon was a PR tell. When he reached E-1 he continued just doing whatever instead of immediately claiming which reminded me of when I was a vigilante and did the same thing. My post here

Nero? Rabbit? Yay or nay?

Was a reference to dogs vs cats mafia where nero was a vigilante cause I thought he could be a vigilante this game based on him responding similarly to the way I did when I was a vigilante to being wagoned

@Stephen

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Scorpious
I'm good going here.

I am reminded by a voice in my head (it's Koba's): read > mech

[Stephen A Smith]

"I thought the way Nero approached his wagon was a PR tell. When he reached E-1 he continued just doing whatever instead of immediately claiming which reminded me of when I was a vigilante and did the same thing."

this is just behavioral.

[Stephen A Smith]

It is also playing to win this game — outing a tell could help scum find other PRs

also how does this tell even jive with this ?

who else displayed this tell? I can't even remember anyone else this game getting up to e-1 and being nonchalant about it?

[Dwlee99]

Every tell is behavioral what are you on

Also I felt like scorpious has played similarly when run up but he's probably just scum