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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:24 am

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well I see a bunch of people who have tene/hem as scumreads and I think its better to consolidate pressure on one of them rather than split and have things go slower.

I'm fine with pushing either one atp.
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:25 am

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I don't even remember you saying that but point taken
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:27 am

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In post 391, Nero Cain wrote:STD has Wu as the 3rd scummist
my list isn't ordered my bad
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:27 am

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In post 397, Aristeia wrote:also I'm not really keen on scumreading someone for being fluffy this early as opposed to like actively scummy people.
this is p much my take too. he's often fluffy, i don't think it's very AI, i don't think there's a ton to learn from how he responds to pressure based on past games either, and there's other more interesting things to look at
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:27 am

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In post 401, Nero Cain wrote:I don't even remember you saying that but point taken
wait no, brainfart, is about tenebro, not generalwu

point still stands that at some point after i read your case, i did open wu's iso, go "huh, this do be looking like empty shitposting", and then did not comment about it
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:29 am

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In post 402, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 391, Nero Cain wrote:STD has Wu as the 3rd scummist
my list isn't ordered my bad
Would you like to explain any of your opinions, Sir Knight?
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:34 am

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In post 400, Aristeia wrote:well I see a bunch of people who have tene/hem as scumreads and I think its better to consolidate pressure on one of them rather than split and have things go slower.
its 9 days till dl and there's still a good chunk of players that haven't posted. Seems a lil' early to talk wagon consolidation, no?
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:37 am

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It is interesting that both the esteemed general and the hungry primate have attracted an influx of defenders.
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:40 am

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who are the monkey defenders?
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:42 am

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Ah, it's just Datisi, isn't it?
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:42 am

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In post 333, Nero Cain wrote:would someone just tell me who we are going to kick off the island, monkey or Wu? I need to know where to focus my energy!
also nero was this not you trying to consolidate wagons?
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:43 am

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i've been defending monkey?
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:44 am

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In post 409, tenebrousluminary wrote:Ah, it's just Datisi, isn't it?
not even really datisi, he said monkey was scummy and that he was willing to vote there. just that the play was confusing based on past experiences
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:44 am

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In post 412, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 409, tenebrousluminary wrote:Ah, it's just Datisi, isn't it?
not even really datisi, he said monkey was scummy and that he was willing to vote there. just that the play was confusing based on past experiences
Okay, you're right.
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:46 am

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In post 410, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 333, Nero Cain wrote:would someone just tell me who we are going to kick off the island, monkey or Wu? I need to know where to focus my energy!
also nero was this not you trying to consolidate wagons?
you're scum aren't you?
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:47 am

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In post 414, Nero Cain wrote:you're scum aren't you?
no, im relaxed yet sassy, didn't you hear

can you answer tho what is different in attitudes between that and what ari said
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:48 am

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mine was a joke. read tone
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:50 am

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the tone did sound like a joke but i didn't really get it, so it just seemed like a weird thing to say. is this that silly boomer humor?
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:57 am

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In post 405, tenebrousluminary wrote:
In post 402, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 391, Nero Cain wrote:STD has Wu as the 3rd scummist
my list isn't ordered my bad
Would you like to explain any of your opinions, Sir Knight?
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:58 am

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In post 417, fireisredsir wrote:the tone did sound like a joke but i didn't really get it, so it just seemed like a weird thing to say. is this that silly boomer humor?
ah the zoomer thing got you!
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:01 am

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In post 406, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 400, Aristeia wrote:well I see a bunch of people who have tene/hem as scumreads and I think its better to consolidate pressure on one of them rather than split and have things go slower.
its 9 days till dl and there's still a good chunk of players that haven't posted. Seems a lil' early to talk wagon consolidation, no?
Yes but we are also on page 17 without a real wagon that has heat on it and I'd rather not have an 80 page day one because nobody rereads those and you have a real chance of inducing town apathy through excessive floodposting.
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:05 am

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Wu is not a real wagon she says.

Even if you disagree with it its the leading wagon (I presume)

just let things form organicly
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:06 am

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why would i not push for the people i think are scummy to be wagoned rather than "let things form organicly"?
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:07 am

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In post 218, Aristeia wrote:going to move Cape90 into my townlist because is too adorable
Agreed on cape, and also hate monkey's half of their interaction with u
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In post 200, skitter30 wrote:@tenebro that's just kinda their dynamic, and its nai, they did the same (as tvt) in the recentky concluded 'bunnies' mini normal
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:11 am

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In post 249, fua wrote:VOTE: Tenebro
Still not really sure i get the scumreads on them tbh
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