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[Stephen A Smith]

i mean we know gunsmith gets guilties on at least 2 scum

that is a shit ton of power

and ive also never seen gunsmith inv a tpr miller and that tpr miller get eliminated lol

[the worst]

thats a meaningless argument though, lol, the gs + miller both have to out for that dialogue to take place. the hit to town ev is pretty considerable, and gs millers dont know to claim that they're millers until the kinda situation dwlee was put in today (where there is clearly not a vig)

[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13279038]post 2732[/url], the worst"][quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13266213]post 1975[/url], Datisi"][color=teal][b][size=160]vote count 1.final[/size][/b][/color]
[color=teal][b]with 13 votes in play, it took 7 to make a decision. day 1 ended.[/b][/color]

[area=yeet][b][color=#00BF00]Greeting[/color] [7]:[/b] [color=#00BF00]fireisredsir[/color], [color=#BF0000]Nero Cain[/color], Eyes without a face, Stephen A Smith, [color=#BF0000]Scorpious[/color], [color=#FF40FF]HockeyFan[/color], Dwlee99 [b][color=teal][HAMMER][/color][/b]
[b][color=#BF0000]Nero Cain[/color] [2]:[/b] [color=#00BF00]Frozen Angel[/color], [color=#00BF00]Greeting[/color]
[b][color=#BF0000]Scorpious[/color] [2]:[/b] [color=#00BF00]wavemode[/color], the worst
[b]Andante [1]:[/b] Umlaut

[b]not voting [1]:[/b] Andante[/area][/quote]

[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13275575]post 2593[/url], Datisi"][color=teal][b][size=160]vote count 2.final[/size][/b][/color]
[color=teal][b]with 11 votes in play, it took 6 to make a decision. day 2 ended.[/b][/color]

[area=yeet][b][color=#BF0000]Nero Cain[/color] [6]:[/b] the worst, Umlaut, [color=#BF0000]Scorpious[/color], Stephen A Smith, Dwlee99, Andante [b][color=teal][HAMMER][/color][/b]
[b][color=#BF0000]Scorpious[/color] [1]:[/b] [color=#FF40FF]HockeyFan[/color]
[b]Andante [1]:[/b] [color=#BF0000]Nero Cain[/color]
[b]the worst [1]:[/b] Eyes without a face
[b]Eyes without a face [1]:[/b] [color=#00BF00]wavemode[/color]

[b]not voting [1]:[/b] [color=#00BF00]fireisredsir[/color][/area][/quote]

[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13277813]post 2717[/url], Datisi"][color=teal][b][size=160]vote count 3.final[/size][/b][/color]
[color=teal][b]with 9 votes in play, it took 5 to make a decision. day 3 ended.[/b][/color]

[area=yeet][b][color=#BF0000]Scorpious[/color] [5]:[/b] [color=#00BF00]wavemode[/color], Andante, [color=#FF40FF]HockeyFan[/color], Dwlee99, Stephen A Smith [b][color=teal][HAMMER][/color][/b]
[b]Dwlee99 [1]:[/b] the worst
[b][color=#00BF00]wavemode[/color] [1]:[/b] [color=#BF0000]Scorpious[/color]

[b]not voting [2]:[/b] Eyes without a face, Umlaut[/area][/quote]


anyone else into this stuff?
assuming hockey is town, nero was either p gloriously bussed or eyes is last scum. eyes has scumsided on all eod wagons.[/quote]

just a reminder eyes keeps scumsiding; its not a silver bullet but I just kinda think it's more convincing than what you're saying as far as finding scum goes eliminating tprs just because of loose setup spec is like cutting off our nose to spite our face. noses without a face.

[the worst]

thats a meaningless argument though, lol, the gs + miller both have to out for that dialogue to take place. the hit to town ev is pretty considerable, and gs millers dont know to claim that they're millers until the kinda situation dwlee was put in today (where there is clearly not a vig)

vote count 1.final

with 13 votes in play, it took 7 to make a decision. day 1 ended.

yeet

Greeting

[7]:

fireisredsir

,

Nero Cain

, Eyes without a face, Stephen A Smith,

Scorpious

,

HockeyFan

, Dwlee99

[HAMMER]

Nero Cain

[2]:

Frozen Angel

,

Greeting

Scorpious

[2]:

wavemode

, the worst

Andante [1]:

Umlaut

not voting [1]:

Andante

vote count 2.final

with 11 votes in play, it took 6 to make a decision. day 2 ended.

yeet

Nero Cain

[6]:

the worst, Umlaut,

Scorpious

, Stephen A Smith, Dwlee99, Andante

[HAMMER]

Scorpious

[1]:

HockeyFan

Andante [1]:

Nero Cain

the worst [1]:

Eyes without a face

Eyes without a face [1]:

wavemode

not voting [1]:

fireisredsir

vote count 3.final

with 9 votes in play, it took 5 to make a decision. day 3 ended.

yeet

Scorpious

[5]:

wavemode

, Andante,

HockeyFan

, Dwlee99, Stephen A Smith

[HAMMER]

Dwlee99 [1]:

the worst

wavemode

[1]:

Scorpious

not voting [2]:

Eyes without a face, Umlaut

anyone else into this stuff?
assuming hockey is town, nero was either p gloriously bussed or eyes is last scum. eyes has scumsided on all eod wagons.

just a reminder eyes keeps scumsiding; its not a silver bullet but I just kinda think it's more convincing than what you're saying as far as finding scum goes eliminating tprs just because of loose setup spec is like cutting off our nose to spite our face. noses without a face.

sorry, fat fingers. requoted for legibility.

[Stephen A Smith]

i am an incredibly simple man and i think incredibly simple thoughts

i dont believe scum dont shoot a backup gunsmith that is confirmed to be a backup gunsmith

even if last scum is a doctor

because doctors can get poed out and i dont believe there is a mafia doctor in a game with gunsmith. last time datisi ran a game with mafia doctor vs town gunsmith he announced the existence of mafia doctor in the public information.

i believe datisi is an artist with his setups. he likes 4 tprs because he thinks it looks pretty. all 4 mini normals he ran have 4 tprs.

there is something beautiful about having an town alien - mafia alien enabler and a town gunsmith and a mafia backup gunsmith. its the kind of circle of life thing that datisi would love to throw into a game just because.

hockeyfan is a cowboys fan

we should kill him for that alone.

I am a simple man. I think simple thoughts. But I am often right so.

[the worst]

i am an incredibly simple man and i think incredibly simple thoughts

i dont believe scum dont shoot a backup gunsmith that is confirmed to be a backup gunsmith

even if last scum is a doctor

because doctors can get poed out and i dont believe there is a mafia doctor in a game with gunsmith. last time datisi ran a game with mafia doctor vs town gunsmith he announced the existence of mafia doctor in the public information.

i believe datisi is an artist with his setups. he likes 4 tprs because he thinks it looks pretty. all 4 mini normals he ran have 4 tprs.

there is something beautiful about having an town alien - mafia alien enabler and a town gunsmith and a mafia backup gunsmith. its the kind of circle of life thing that datisi would love to throw into a game just because.

hockeyfan is a cowboys fan

we should kill him for that alone.

I am a simple man. I think simple thoughts. But I am often right so.

I think shooting wave (indeterminate remaining power, had guiltied scum) makes a lot more sense than shooting a backup gunsmith, irrespective of the last scum role. I think eliminating the claimed backup gunsmith before the rest of the PoE is doing scum's work for them.

consider: you know me to be a big fan of an easy endgame.

tw, andante, stephen (clear), eyes, umlaut, dwlee, hockey
eliminate eyes: tw, andante, Stephen (clear), umlaut, dwlee, hockey
scum shoots stephen, hockey checks umlaut: tw, andante, umlaut (clear), dwlee, hockey
elim dwlee (policy; cant be inno'd): tw, andante, umlaut (clear), hockey
scum shoots hockey (f3 umlaut has to choose between andante or I) or umlaut (hockey 1v1s one of andante or I)

I don't think scum leaving Hockey alive is a red flag at all. if you have other reasons to think Hockey is scum, or that the other two scummy players are town, I'm all ears.

[the worst]

I accept that policy eliminating Dwlee in f5 there would be very funny and silly its just an exercise

[HockeyFan]

i am an incredibly simple man and i think incredibly simple thoughts

i dont believe scum dont shoot a backup gunsmith that is confirmed to be a backup gunsmith

even if last scum is a doctor

because doctors can get poed out and i dont believe there is a mafia doctor in a game with gunsmith. last time datisi ran a game with mafia doctor vs town gunsmith he announced the existence of mafia doctor in the public information.

i believe datisi is an artist with his setups. he likes 4 tprs because he thinks it looks pretty. all 4 mini normals he ran have 4 tprs.

there is something beautiful about having an town alien - mafia alien enabler and a town gunsmith and a mafia backup gunsmith. its the kind of circle of life thing that datisi would love to throw into a game just because.

hockeyfan is a cowboys fan

we should kill him for that alone.

I am a simple man. I think simple thoughts. But I am often right so.

I think shooting wave (indeterminate remaining power, had guiltied scum) makes a lot more sense than shooting a backup gunsmith, irrespective of the last scum role. I think eliminating the claimed backup gunsmith before the rest of the PoE is doing scum's work for them.

consider: you know me to be a big fan of an easy endgame.

tw, andante, stephen (clear), eyes, umlaut, dwlee, hockey
eliminate eyes: tw, andante, Stephen (clear), umlaut, dwlee, hockey
scum shoots stephen, hockey checks umlaut: tw, andante, umlaut (clear), dwlee, hockey
elim dwlee (policy; cant be inno'd): tw, andante, umlaut (clear), hockey
scum shoots hockey (f3 umlaut has to choose between andante or I) or umlaut (hockey 1v1s one of andante or I)

I don't think scum leaving Hockey alive is a red flag at all. if you have other reasons to think Hockey is scum, or that the other two scummy players are town, I'm all ears.

Slight problem, forgot to mention this earlier, but I am only 1-shot
Anyways, TW convinced me 5 TRPS can exist, so POE of Umulat/Eyes

[post=Umulat]Umulat[/post]

[Stephen A Smith]

i am an incredibly simple man and i think incredibly simple thoughts

i dont believe scum dont shoot a backup gunsmith that is confirmed to be a backup gunsmith

even if last scum is a doctor

because doctors can get poed out and i dont believe there is a mafia doctor in a game with gunsmith. last time datisi ran a game with mafia doctor vs town gunsmith he announced the existence of mafia doctor in the public information.

i believe datisi is an artist with his setups. he likes 4 tprs because he thinks it looks pretty. all 4 mini normals he ran have 4 tprs.

there is something beautiful about having an town alien - mafia alien enabler and a town gunsmith and a mafia backup gunsmith. its the kind of circle of life thing that datisi would love to throw into a game just because.

hockeyfan is a cowboys fan

we should kill him for that alone.

I am a simple man. I think simple thoughts. But I am often right so.

I think shooting wave (indeterminate remaining power, had guiltied scum) makes a lot more sense than shooting a backup gunsmith, irrespective of the last scum role. I think eliminating the claimed backup gunsmith before the rest of the PoE is doing scum's work for them.

consider: you know me to be a big fan of an easy endgame.

tw, andante, stephen (clear), eyes, umlaut, dwlee, hockey
eliminate eyes: tw, andante, Stephen (clear), umlaut, dwlee, hockey
scum shoots stephen, hockey checks umlaut: tw, andante, umlaut (clear), dwlee, hockey
elim dwlee (policy; cant be inno'd): tw, andante, umlaut (clear), hockey
scum shoots hockey (f3 umlaut has to choose between andante or I) or umlaut (hockey 1v1s one of andante or I)

I don't think scum leaving Hockey alive is a red flag at all. if you have other reasons to think Hockey is scum, or that the other two scummy players are town, I'm all ears.

I cant imagine a scum player thinking the town joat had another ability if the town has a backup gunsmith

i think maybe we just have vastly different opinions of setup balance

[Stephen A Smith]

is backup one shot gunsmith really a thing

[HockeyFan]

yes

[Stephen A Smith]

like seriously can any1 find me a game where a full gunsmith has a one shot back up

[HockeyFan]

VOTE: Umulat

[the worst]

sadly the claim makes sense but, alas, now we policy hockey instead

[the worst]

umlaut is probably just not the correct elim today. eyes or hockey, I'll lolhammer either
UNVOTE:

[Stephen A Smith]

this is just hockeyfan downgrading his claim to make it plausible for him to survive into endgame rofl

[HockeyFan]

umlaut is probably just not the correct elim today

why?

[the worst]

I was willing to accept one claim pivot in favour of survivalism but if his claim changes every time we present a situation in which his claim can't win as scum, something about ducks quacking, etc.

honestly I am secretly not sure if Umlaut is scum with Nero I just didn't wanna say it if he and eyes were my PoE >.> <.<

[the worst]

umlaut is probably just not the correct elim today

why?

I think scumlaut is strictly a worse solve than scum-without-a-team or scumckeyfan

[Stephen A Smith]

backup one shot gun smith is absolutely an ugly role and i refuse to believe datisi puts it into this setup

mafia backup gunsmith is infinitely more sexy and pretty looking.

[Dwlee99]

this is just hockeyfan downgrading his claim to make it plausible for him to survive into endgame rofl

That's false - wave mode role copped him and said 1-shot gunsmith at the time

[Stephen A Smith]

lol lemme read what wave wrote

[Dwlee99]

what if I told you that I'm a 1-shot rolecop and I know for a fact that hockeyfan is a backup 1-shot gunsmith

so my knee jerk reaction to nero's claim was, how did he know to claim gunsmith of all things? hockey had not told us what he was a backup for

unless they are mafia GS and mafia backup GS? which, wow wtf. but it's technically possible I suppose. still, it's strange to claim that together and become joined at the hip (the typical risk associated with mason fakeclaims)

Okay be back later

[the worst]

I'm nauseous

pedit o gotcha

[the worst]

plan a

VOTE: eyes

[Stephen A Smith]

ok fine maybe he didnt downgrade his claim i still think hes a scumbaggo but im fine going somewhere else or w/e