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[the worst]

A trick containing a trump is won by the hand playing the highest trump. A trick not containing a trump is won by the hand playing the highest card of the suit led. The winner of each trick leads next.

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Official Votecount 1.5

Datisi (5): skitter30, Yeet, humaneatingmonkey, Nordom, tenebrousluminary

[E-5]

humaneatingmonkey (2): Aristeia, Cape90
Yeet (2): Frogsterking, Nero Cain
skitter30 (1): Datisi
Eyes without a face (1): Save The Dragons
tenebrousluminary (1): fireisredsir
GeneralWu (1): fua
fua (1): VP Baltar

Not Voting (5): Scorpious, DeasVail, MalcolmTucker, Eyes without a face, GeneralWu

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to achieve an eliminaton.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2022-03-12 05:15:00).

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[Aristeia]

What do you mean by "townblock"? Can you quote the reply where he implied that?

a townblock is a group of townreads that mutually townread each other - it's a method for POEing a game down based on expansion of a core group of mutually agreed townreads.

What monkey is saying is that Datisi is scum for not creating a townblock or starting to create a townblock.

But he's also stated today that he thinks people don't have enough alignment indicative material this early in the game to create reads and that he doesn't really have reads himself.

so this is an obvious contradiction in that he expects Datisi to be creating a townblock while he himself claims he doesn't have townreads nor that enough AI material has gone on for people to create townreads.

[Nordom]

His playstyle being what, Monkey?

[humaneatingmonkey]

You said on the last page I am trying to kill you because I am mafia.

Why are you pretending to be confused by my actions now?

In fact if your world view is that Ari!scum is trying to misyeet me - my actions on this page should make perfect sense to you no?

If you believe Ari/Datisi are scum together this would be a textbook example of chainsaw defense no?

Instead you're confused about what I'm doing?

yes, because you are also trying to pretend that you're town publicly.

[Aristeia]

You assume that Datisi is able to create a townblock in the first 24 hours of a large theme... which makes very little sense to me - you also previous stated you think nothing ai has actually happened and you think people shouldn't be able to form reads - this is a contradiction just on the surface.

You are imposing a standard that by your own admission is absurd upon Datisi and using it to push him.

I assume Datisi is able to create a townblock because that's how i remember his playstyle in early games.

We are 24 hours into the game.

Datisi has been in class for 10 hours and slept for maybe 6 or 7 hours.

Your expectations are ridiculous and directly contradict what you previously said about there not being enough alignment indicative material to create townreads this early.

[humaneatingmonkey]

But he's also stated today that he thinks people don't have enough alignment indicative material this early in the game to create reads and that he doesn't really have reads himself.

so this is an obvious contradiction in that he expects Datisi to be creating a townblock while he himself claims he doesn't have townreads nor that enough AI material has gone on for people to create townreads.

the process to get to those townreads will be obvious, he doesn't need to generate one.

[Nordom]

What do you mean by "townblock"? Can you quote the reply where he implied that?

a townblock is a group of townreads that mutually townread each other - it's a method for POEing a game down based on expansion of a core group of mutually agreed townreads.

What monkey is saying is that Datisi is scum for not creating a townblock or starting to create a townblock.

But he's also stated today that he thinks people don't have enough alignment indicative material this early in the game to create reads and that he doesn't really have reads himself.

so this is an obvious contradiction in that he expects Datisi to be creating a townblock while he himself claims he doesn't have townreads nor that enough AI material has gone on for people to create townreads.

Trust me, I understand what a "town-block" is. I'm asking for a quoted reply from monkey that says that he said something like that.

[Aristeia]

You said on the last page I am trying to kill you because I am mafia.

Why are you pretending to be confused by my actions now?

In fact if your world view is that Ari!scum is trying to misyeet me - my actions on this page should make perfect sense to you no?

If you believe Ari/Datisi are scum together this would be a textbook example of chainsaw defense no?

Instead you're confused about what I'm doing?

yes, because you are also trying to pretend that you're town publicly.

I am talking about your point of view.

You have stated on page 30 that you are convinced I am mafia trying to murder you.

You then state on page 31 that you are confused about what I am doing.

This is a perspective slip - you forgot you have me at hard scumread because your scumread of me is fake.

[Aristeia]

Datisi hasn't pressured me actually. Which makes me suspicious because if Datisi remembers me as the one who "ripped through town" in that one game, then he must have due cause to pressure me. Also, when prompted by Nero, he gave up assessing my meta at the mere sight of the word "daddy". I believe Datisi would have spent some proper time sorting me. Datisi is also bolder to announce his reads, however bad. He also tries to create a townblock in my experience. That doesn't happen here. His participation does not influence this game, which is pinging my bottom.

here you go

[humaneatingmonkey]

i dont have you at hard scumread.

[Aristeia]

But he's also stated today that he thinks people don't have enough alignment indicative material this early in the game to create reads and that he doesn't really have reads himself.

so this is an obvious contradiction in that he expects Datisi to be creating a townblock while he himself claims he doesn't have townreads nor that enough AI material has gone on for people to create townreads.

the process to get to those townreads will be obvious, he doesn't need to generate one.

What are you even talking about

[Aristeia]

What process does Town Datisi do that he's not done in this game?

[humaneatingmonkey]

my impression of his process so far is that he has been focused on nitpicking others' posts to see if they're being consistent. i remember that he focuses on creating trust first.

[Cape90]

Looking back at it 265 is some of the LAMIST stuff I’ve ever seen.

I don't like this read.

Oh whats that, I missed a lot of posts?

Welp

Guess i am in readsville

[Aristeia]

which posts do you believe are nitpicking and do you have an example of him doing this as scum in a previously completed game?

[Nordom]

Datisi hasn't pressured me actually. Which makes me suspicious because if Datisi remembers me as the one who "ripped through town" in that one game, then he must have due cause to pressure me. Also, when prompted by Nero, he gave up assessing my meta at the mere sight of the word "daddy". I believe Datisi would have spent some proper time sorting me. Datisi is also bolder to announce his reads, however bad. He also tries to create a townblock in my experience. That doesn't happen here. His participation does not influence this game, which is pinging my bottom.

here you go

Aight, so, when I read back on your comment before about "He doesn't have any town-reads" and then you linked with that the town-block stuff, I don't really see that as scum indicative.

But he's also stated today that he thinks people don't have enough alignment indicative material this early in the game to create reads and that he doesn't really have reads himself.

so this is an obvious contradiction in that he expects Datisi to be creating a townblock while he himself claims he doesn't have townreads nor that enough AI material has gone on for people to create townreads.

I think he's just being honest here. The way he's been playing with this "car-crash attitude" doesn't really seem like scum. The only reason I say this because I pulled similar shit in previous games as town. It's not as effective as "calculated" responses, but it's easy to get a town-tell read from, which I do at this point.

[Cape90]

VOTE: fua

This person chose to pick a fight with me because they perceived me as a weak player they could win an argument against, but their attack did not make sense. Furthermore, in the bottom of 266, they treat me like they know I am town.

some people not mentioned in your list haven't even posted?? excuse me for asking i guess

class starting back again, cheers

I don't like the way Datisi focused on nitpicking rather than the substance of Nero Cain's argument.

I am starting to turn around on this slot

[Cape90]

206 makes me like fire and dislike frogs, mostly the townread on generalwu for those posts is questionable

False

both players look good off of that post.

Fire doesn't see it as a sort of joke read as I initially did.

Frogs somehow justifies this read GeneralWu as like "Huh do you mind elaborating why maf have more motivation to make friends than town?" which feels like such a stretch that it just wounds up being a towny stretch.

[fireisredsir]

It's not as effective as "calculated" responses, but it's easy to get a town-tell read from, which I do at this point

can you clarify what you mean by this sentence, i don't know if I'm interpreting it correctly

[Cape90]

is 234 townie? probably not. do i wanna townread it anyway? yeah.

if i didn't know who monkey was, i'd scumread the shit out of that slot - but unless he has massively fallen out of shape, i'm just puzzled at his play here.

That's literally a copypasta T.T

[Cape90]

well I see a bunch of people who have tene/hem as scumreads and I think its better to consolidate pressure on one of them rather than split and have things go slower.

its 9 days till dl and there's still a good chunk of players that haven't posted. Seems a lil' early to talk wagon consolidation, no?

Man, I haven't had a lot of opinions on what Nero has said up to this point.

And then I see this, and this isn't it

[Cape90]

Wu is not a real wagon she says.

Even if you disagree with it its the leading wagon (I presume)

just let things form organicly

what? no

why would i not push for the people i think are scummy to be wagoned rather than "let things form organicly"?

Exactly my thoughts.

As far as I can tell, Nero never responded to this

[Nordom]

It's not as effective as "calculated" responses, but it's easy to get a town-tell read from, which I do at this point

can you clarify what you mean by this sentence, i don't know if I'm interpreting it correctly

What I mean by "calculated" is, in this context, being well-thought out and with precision. Precision to attack points with counter-arguments clearly and concisely.

[Datisi]

15 pages practically all about me? y'all are too kind.

i skimmed, and i was planning to just respond to things that were about me, but then i realized a *lot* of the things are about me. so i'll get to this when i'm back home today.

[Nordom]

15 pages practically all about me? y'all are too kind.

i skimmed, and i was planning to just respond to things that were about me, but then i realized a *lot* of the things are about me. so i'll get to this when i'm back home today.