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[Nordom]

Yes yes. I'm such an impossible player not open to discussions that matter.

You gonna keep your vote planted on me I take it?

[Datisi]

yes. because at this point i have no conclusion other than that you're scum trying to provoke me into saying anything that you could twist to attack me with. there is no good faith from you.

[tenebrousluminary]

VOTE: Nordom

I would like to gain further information to divine this player's alignment.

[Save The Dragons]

as a gay man,

i feel that phrases like "butt-buddies" is meant to put me down, to make gay people feel lesser. i don't deserve that.

so no. it is not acceptable and i do not need to get a thicker skin. please do not continue down this path. thank you.

[Mizzytastic]

Malcom, I think you're getting too over-excited in the pants from Datisi's lazy town read on you. You gotta dig deeper.

Unless you're maf butt-buddies together then fml

These posts are not appropriate. Please stop.

If those particular sentences managed to offend anybody, then I think that person needs to grow a thicker skin.

Please could you refrain from this. The tone of those messages was unnecessary, and doubling down when someone expresses discomfort is not on.

[Nordom]

All I say is, that in the numerous exchanges I had with DeasVail prior to them writing an essay about me, they never once gave any indication that they might be scum-reading me. They agreed with my TvT read and I said "That felt too easy breezy". when they made it. Vote me if you want, but you might want to iso Deas here.

Datisi is scum regardless, just keep that in mind.

[Save The Dragons]

anyway.

nordom is town for his interaction with deasvail but i think DV is also town for looking at eyes without a face with suspicion.

datisi i'm leaning town on, i'm not sure what the case on him is, i don't quite understand it

i want ari to speak more, but i thought between HEM and Ari, ari looked worse, which is a change from my previous read of HEM being bad. I think I want to VOTE: Aristeia for now.

[Nordom]

as a gay man,

i feel that phrases like "butt-buddies" is meant to put me down, to make gay people feel lesser. i don't deserve that.

so no. it is not acceptable and i do not need to get a thicker skin. please do not continue down this path. thank you.

Yeah, nah. You do need to get a thicker skin. My intent when I was typing "butt-buddies" wasn't "Let me take a dig at homosexual people" it was for the sake of levity.

I don't want to come off as an insensitive shithead, but where does the censorship end?

[Nero Cain]

I mean we all know that mafia is just a game of egos that are pretending to be better at reading others than they really are.

[tenebrousluminary]

I never mentioned it, but I also felt that DeasVail's vote and unvite of Eyes looked town.

[Nero Cain]

nord stop

[VP Baltar]

It started when Deas voted for me. My initial thought was "Oh, okay maybe this is just a mis-informed effort post by town"

But, when I started thinking about it, it feels like maf trying to cut me off at the pass before I can make any possible move towards them. Deas came out with that post after I repeatedly gave comments that were questioning them. I honestly feel like he was trying to pocket me, but saw it wouldn't be so easy and decided to take the initiative in voting me first.

Are you talking about datisi or deasvail?

[Save The Dragons]

i will enjoy playing with your replacement.

[Nordom]

Deasvail

[MalcolmTucker]

I didn't necessarily suspect Tenebros on the basis of their early posts but found some of their later defences incredibly weak attempts to divert attention away from them without addressing accusations at-hand.

If you wish to call my defenses weak, you should cite what specifically was weak.

I don't understand how I can be making "defences" while also "not addressing accusations at hand." What accusations at hand would you like me to address? If you feel there are unanswered questions, you can ask them yourself, and if you really want to figure me out, I think you will do so.

Also TR'ing Frogster, their early question seemed so bizarre a theory for a mafia player to have, not sure why you'd draw attention to yourself with that. Also TR'ing Datisi at the moment, their frustrations re early accusations seemed fairly genuine to me at a point where players were keen to just get any theories or suspicions off the ground to get the game going.

Why is Frogster drawing attention to himself different from me drawing attention to myself? I don't disagree that it could be seen that way, but I want to hear your explanation.

I guess I am a tiny bit biased here but I think he's not as carefree as scum tho I haven't actually played with scum him this is just based on what he's said about his scum game previously.

You think Datisi is carefree this game? I think he seems quite upset about a small amount of pressure.

Here you go, Mr. Tucker.

My wider point was that you've facilitated between kinda jokingly shrugging off accusations and getting more defensive about them. Neither on its own is a particular mafia tell, the two of them together is worth noting.

[Nordom]

i will enjoy playing with your replacement.

Mhmm. Glad my post got completely ignored.

[Datisi]

"i'm being censored because i can't hurl insults as i see fit!" is a bad take, fam. can we not?

[MalcolmTucker]

as a gay man,

i feel that phrases like "butt-buddies" is meant to put me down, to make gay people feel lesser. i don't deserve that.

so no. it is not acceptable and i do not need to get a thicker skin. please do not continue down this path. thank you.

Yeah, nah. You do need to get a thicker skin. My intent when I was typing "butt-buddies" wasn't "Let me take a dig at homosexual people" it was for the sake of levity.

I don't want to come off as an insensitive shithead, but where does the censorship end?

It was an unnecessary comment to refer to potential teammates, you've had it explained by someone why it might come across as offensive and now you're rambling on about censorship. Probably best to just acknowledge the word usage wasn't good and then we can move on.

[MalcolmTucker]

I didn't necessarily suspect Tenebros on the basis of their early posts but found some of their later defences incredibly weak attempts to divert attention away from them without addressing accusations at-hand.

If you wish to call my defenses weak, you should cite what specifically was weak.

I don't understand how I can be making "defences" while also "not addressing accusations at hand." What accusations at hand would you like me to address? If you feel there are unanswered questions, you can ask them yourself, and if you really want to figure me out, I think you will do so.

Also TR'ing Frogster, their early question seemed so bizarre a theory for a mafia player to have, not sure why you'd draw attention to yourself with that. Also TR'ing Datisi at the moment, their frustrations re early accusations seemed fairly genuine to me at a point where players were keen to just get any theories or suspicions off the ground to get the game going.

Why is Frogster drawing attention to himself different from me drawing attention to myself? I don't disagree that it could be seen that way, but I want to hear your explanation.

I guess I am a tiny bit biased here but I think he's not as carefree as scum tho I haven't actually played with scum him this is just based on what he's said about his scum game previously.

You think Datisi is carefree this game? I think he seems quite upset about a small amount of pressure.

Here you go, Mr. Tucker.

My wider point was that you've facilitated between kinda jokingly shrugging off accusations and getting more defensive about them. Neither on its own is a particular mafia tell, the two of them together is worth noting.

*Vacillated, not facilitated fs.

[Nero Cain]

yeah but dats you are inflaming the situating. He did a bad but you don't need to dogpile.

[Nero Cain]

yeah but dats you are inflaming the situating. He did a bad but you don't need to dogpile.

[Datisi]

it's not my intention >_> sorry

[VP Baltar]

if you're scum, obviously you want me to townread you. but, you know that those tiny bits of my "things that town!vp does" list won't help you because we both know they're on that list. bUT ALSO, you know that i know that. so now i'm like, would scum!baltar purposefully drop these little hints, *knowing* that i'm gonna notice them and start losing sleep over them, in order to get into my head?

lmao, this is like a day 6 endgame level paranoia and we're only 36 hours in. the legends are true...

lol

[tenebrousluminary]

My wider point was that you've facilitated between kinda jokingly shrugging off accusations and getting more defensive about them. Neither on its own is a particular mafia tell, the two of them together is worth noting.

Okay, so you're still going to crush off my post and continue suspecting me for the same reason. Thanks for clarifying.

[VP Baltar]

There's so many people I want gone today. Datisi/DeasVail/fireisredsir/maybe VP Baltar

why fire?

Also, I thought I was higher on the list. Do you suspect fire more than me? If yes, what changed from last night?