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[Nero Cain]

Why should I push Scorp over Wu?

[skitter30]

Pedit one or two incidental games. Or in other words, i'm not using meta for this one

rude. Also, it's been 3, 2 scum, and 1 town and you tunneled me each game so...

I dont remember doing that >.> which games were they again?

Ok i found 2 and one of them i did tunnel you but i actually have no memory of why i did that and i was scum also there so

[skitter30]

"u need 2 push this read over this read"

No, that's not what i'm saying, i'm asking *why* that's the slot you're focusing on, and no i dont understand why you cant focus on more than one

And i dont like the push on wuin general, i said that many times

[Nero Cain]

if you were scum tunneling me it was b/c you felt I was an EZ push that you could hedge on. Why are you pretending like you don't know how to play mafia?

[skitter30]

I'm actually kinda more concerned abt your yeet read, which i brought up multiple times - why are you scumreading him?

[skitter30]

if you were scum tunneling me it was b/c you felt I was an EZ push that you could hedge on. Why are you pretending like you don't know how to play mafia?

I mean presumably, i was more saying that i dont remmeber the specifics of why i thought that would be beneficial at the time

So if you want to talk abt my apparent long-storied history of tunneling you, i dont have much to say

[Nero Cain]

I was actually on Nord b4 Fua asked me to come back to Wu. Read the game b4 you try to talk 2 me.

[skitter30]

Why should I push Scorp over Wu?

Why are you setting this up as one or the other, i'm asking why not both / why your attentions are on wu

[skitter30]

I was actually on Nord b4 Fua asked me to come back to Wu. Read the game b4 you try to talk 2 me.

Yes and you started the game pushing wu/hem and then circled back to wu, yes

[Nero Cain]

clearly, I've never ever given any reason why I voted Wu.

[skitter30]

I'm actually kinda more concerned abt your yeet read, which i brought up multiple times - why are you scumreading him?

Can u answer this plz ^

And idk what you're trying to say in that post

[Nero Cain]

im saying that I've I've talked about Wu in several posts now and you clearly aren't reading or maybe you did and this is supposed to be some "gotcha" moment", idk. But asking me why I'm scumreading/suspicious of someone that I've talked about several times already is just taxing and dumb.

[MalcolmTucker]

Surely the central difference between Wu and Scorpious is post count? The two players aren't really the same here: Scorpious has been generally inactive so far with seven posts, by contrast Wu has almost 40 posts and yet hasn't said much in most of them. Indeed that's what got the Wu suspicions rolling initially; they made a whole load of posts early in the game without saying much despite plenty of active debate where they could have made their own reads.

[Nero Cain]

I'm actually kinda more concerned abt your yeet read, which i brought up multiple times - why are you scumreading him?

I guess I'm not reading either b/c I don't really remember this.

but I did say this in my another post you didn't read

I'm an informed townie that knows Nero Cain is town thus I know that everyone pushing him is some form of scum or bad town.

So I just wasn't a big fan of Yeet light pushing me and then kinda fence-sitting on me.

It was mostly OMGUS but I did feel like his wishy-washy light push on me was the kind of thing I could easily see scum do. Especially given that I'm mostly well town read and trying to erode the town read on Nero seems like it could be a decent scum agenda. Maybe I re-read him more in-depth later and see how I feel but what makes him so good that you feel the need t go to bat for him?

[MalcolmTucker]

Datisi is the leading wagon I believe despite taking up a lot of space and actually playing the game. To my understanding No one townreads him except one person who knows him more intimately than others, it seems. He is not a polarizing slot as much as a universally southnull slot.

Wu seems to blend into the background more with less content/words ratio.

Monkey is a more polarizing slot rather than purely getting flak. I could be biased since I was one of the monkey defenders.

I think we should mount the pressure on Datisi sooner rather than later.

Let’s get some wagons going, guys. I don’t want to stall around all day and move last minute and scramble when we can just go sheep sheep sheep.

It is interesting that Datisi is pretty much universally very unpopular today (except in Aristeia’s eyes, but I worry she may be biased. Nevertheless I am still keeping her opinion very much in mind because I presume she knows him well).

Is he normally this unpopular at gamestart?

Re Yeet - I don't think they've been particularly scummy yet and their early assertions felt bold for a mafia who'd want to blend in, but this sequence of posts was really, really bad. At one moment claiming Datisi is the most heavily suspected player and then in the next post claiming not enough pressure is going on them. Which is it?

I do note Yeet's not posted at all since this sequence either. I dunno, if Yeet is mafia then they may have felt they went in too heavily in the early stages and want to sit back later. Although it could be more of a timezone thing depending on when they post, but that's around 17 hours now.

[Nero Cain]

In fairness to Skitter, Wu and Scorp prob aren't all that different in a way. Wu got suspected for active lurking and then disappeared. Wich I guess you could argue that is scum lurking it out? And Scorp just has done shit all and pressure never developed there.

[MalcolmTucker]

In fairness to Skitter, Wu and Scorp prob aren't all that different in a way. Wu got suspected for active lurking and then disappeared. Wich I guess you could argue that is scum lurking it out? And Scorp just has done shit all and pressure never developed there.

Yeah to a point, just I think it's notable that whereas Scorp has been quiet in general (which I'd say is generally fairly NAI), Wu has actually made quite a few posts so far for a player who hasn't contributed much. Like having almost 40 so far is remarkable for a player who hasn't made an active contribution in terms of proper reads or pushes or questioning.

[Nero Cain]

I think he said something about liking Skitter but thats been all.

[Nero Cain]

also Skitter and VP (to a lesser extent) that I'm focusing on Wu/fluff posters is hardly true I feel

[MalcolmTucker]

I think he said something about liking Skitter but thats been all.

Yeah mild defence of Skitter is about as strong as he's given it so far. Like 10% of his posts are about Chairman Mao.

[MalcolmTucker]

I think he said something about liking Skitter but thats been all.

Yeah mild defence of Skitter is about as strong as he's given it so far. Like 10% of his posts are about Chairman Mao.

[MalcolmTucker]

^ Double post very much not intentional.

[Nero Cain]

he also said that he thinks me and Yeet are scummy.

[Nero Cain]

naw it was a good post, thats why it posted twice.

[fireisredsir]

in the flurry of early posts, while participating in them live i kinda mentally binned yeet as new and confident and that i would probably disagree with a lot of his takes because of it, but that he seemed towny enough. looking back at the ISO now though, im less sold on that. agreed that the sequence malcolm pointed out was bad