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[MathBlade]

There needs to be a catalyst why.

A catalyst lowers the activation energy of a reaction so that the reaction can proceed faster. For example, enzymes are biological catalysts. Carbonic anhydrase is an enzyme that catalyzes the reaction H2O + CO2 -> H2CO3. It works by using zinc to stabilize the transition state of the reaction. What sort of catalyst do you think is in this game?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/catalyst

Second definition Wu.

[MathBlade]

a claimed inno from an investigative role is not the same thing as a mason claim tho

Yeah, but then why would we use an investigative role on one of the claimed masons?

In a prior game there was a claimed inno on me Skitter was against incorrectly
Here she is against me again on my masons claim
Her tone is different.

[Nero Cain]

votes on Skitter plox

[skitter30]

Fua any comment on my vote on you?

I feel like it's substanceless and poorly justified, like you're trying to fit current me into the initial scumread you had of me based on my push of Tenebro. "We have completely different reads" shouldn't be in the same case as "They said I have bad takes" because I'm obviously going to think you have bad takes with different reads. Doesn't mean I can't still read your play as relatively townie even if the tree you are barking up is on the other side of the planet from mine.

No, but it was largely colored by the tene read, yes
And its more jsut that i'm having a hard time understanding your pov and how you're reaching your reads if you're town

[GeneralWu]

There needs to be a catalyst why.

A catalyst lowers the activation energy of a reaction so that the reaction can proceed faster. For example, enzymes are biological catalysts. Carbonic anhydrase is an enzyme that catalyzes the reaction H2O + CO2 -> H2CO3. It works by using zinc to stabilize the transition state of the reaction. What sort of catalyst do you think is in this game?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/catalyst

Second definition Wu.

I know, I know. I just like reciting my biology notes.

[fireisredsir]

Because there was a wagon of 6 on monkey and a wagon of 4 on me.
These all can’t be town
Therefore scum
Therefore point proven

i mean they literally can, there's 19 players in the game. i assume there probably was at least 1 or 2 scum in there but you are just wrong here my dude, and there's enough people telling you that now that you should be smart enough to realize that

[MathBlade]

i can't believe that you seriously can't comprehend the possibility that you knowing two alignments is affecting your ability to accurately assess whether those slots look scummy to an outside perspective or not. is everyone who votes town either scum or blind to you? you know that happens, like, all the time. right?

They are scum or incorrect town.

If they’re scum they’re doing it maliciously
If they’re town their gamestate is skewed

So since they’re skewed they aren’t assessing properly.

[Aristeia]

we should definitely not use an investigative role on a mason btw thats not what I am saying at all

[GeneralWu]

a claimed inno from an investigative role is not the same thing as a mason claim tho

Yeah, but then why would we use an investigative role on one of the claimed masons?

Wait also:
Scum could pretend to be an investigative role to "clear" fake mason claims, but I feel that'd be to big of a risk.

[MathBlade]

a claimed inno from an investigative role is not the same thing as a mason claim tho

Yeah, but then why would we use an investigative role on one of the claimed masons?

Wait also:
Scum could pretend to be an investigative role to "clear" fake mason claims, but I feel that'd be to big of a risk.

That’d probably get them policy elimmed.

[fireisredsir]

im saying that there is scum here.

scum just lets my big ass push a Wu wagon while they comfortably sit on HEM. I also have a super-secret reason why VP/Skitter contains scum.

did that have anything to do with what you were saying about you/fua getting blamed if wu flips town or were those separate thoughts

[skitter30]

i can't believe that you seriously can't comprehend the possibility that you knowing two alignments is affecting your ability to accurately assess whether those slots look scummy to an outside perspective or not. is everyone who votes town either scum or blind to you? you know that happens, like, all the time. right?

^^^^^^

And math my tone is different because i dont particularly care to have a long-drawn out argument with you when you are almost for sure going to get resolved naturally if i wait a bit

I find your pov of the game utterly bizarre and i dont think i'm going to convincr you to change your mind, so i really want to have this argument, so i'm gonna let you do your thing and i'm gonna do mine

[skitter30]

Ok i have to bounce, see y'all maybe sunday

[Aristeia]

have a good weekend skitter!

[MathBlade]

Have a good weekend! I think you’re scum but still want you to have a nice weekend

[skitter30]

Thank you !

Also i'm flying home sunday so idk if i'll be around then

Bookends math amirite?

Pedit thanks math to you too!

Also i literally like dont have time to spend the next three days bickering with you lol

[MathBlade]

I am going to have a busy day at work so might as well call it for more reading.

But yeah we need to focus on those wagoning monkey and me
If you disagree on Wu focus there

[fireisredsir]

Does anyone disagree with that summary?

i do love the just complete lack of self-awareness to say this, then have like, 8 people disagree with the summary, and then just decide to stick with it anyway. it's kinda admirable in a way. i hope to someday be that blindly confident in myself

[MathBlade]

Does anyone disagree with that summary?

i do love the just complete lack of self-awareness to say this, then have like, 8 people disagree with the summary, and then just decide to stick with it anyway. it's kinda admirable in a way. i hope to someday be that blindly confident in myself

I mean you said you disagreed
But then linked a VC where Datisi and Wu were primary wagons
Then just Datisi and others

I mean you said disagreed then proved my point?

Like that’s what I don’t get.

[Datisi]

the idea that two people were wagoned and then the wagons moved elsewhere is 100% evidence that there is scum in the first two names because why else would one of the first wagons in the game not go through!?!?! is like, wrong on so many fronts

i don't feel like arguing with math too much considering i just got out of a game where i was arguing a lot with him and he was "conftown" and it made the game much more complicated than it needed to be, but

i will definitely still call him out and not let him blindly push the game

[MathBlade]

the idea that two people were wagoned and then the wagons moved elsewhere is 100% evidence that there is scum in the first two names because why else would one of the first wagons in the game not go through!?!?! is like, wrong on so many fronts

i don't feel like arguing with math too much considering i just got out of a game where i was arguing a lot with him and he was "conftown" and it made the game much more complicated than it needed to be, but

i will definitely still call him out and not let him blindly push the game

The sheer numbers make it so. 10/19 players on me and Monkey.

Scum are on me and Monkey.
They didn’t push you/Wu hard
So yes scum is likely in the pair of you
Otherwise no need to invent a push on my predecessor who was annoying not scum
HEM was/is inactive and new not scummy

[Datisi]

i did not see anything

i'm alright, i have a three-day weekend coming up so i'm looking forward to finally catching up on sleep. today is gonna be kinda meh though, got a class i am not looking forward to >_>

[Aristeia]

i did not see anything

i'm alright, i have a three-day weekend coming up so i'm looking forward to finally catching up on sleep. today is gonna be kinda meh though, got a class i am not looking forward to >_>

yay : )

sleep is nice

[MathBlade]

Good night Datisi
And rip I thought you were someone else Ari

I am bad at guessing alts.

If you were a snake you’d bite me

[Datisi]

Scum are on me and Monkey.
They didn’t push you/Wu hard
So yes scum is likely in the pair of you
Otherwise no need to invent a push on my predecessor who was annoying not scum
HEM was/is inactive and new not scummy

i did get pushed quite hard, but ok

are there absolutely no player overlap between the me/wu and you/monkey wagons?

and even then, it doesn't prove jack shit because it's possible town just decided they didn't wanna push me/wu anymore and decided to push elsewhere and scum just followed because they didn't care, or they stayed on me/wu (i think i still have some votes?), or they didn't even bother

like you're always running the assumption that scum is these masterminds who are planning each amd every action in advance and are always looking to hold complete control over the game thread when like

lazy or lurking scum is present in almost every team which you somehow never seem to acknowledge

like if you actually read the game, you'd know why the wagon moved off of me, i went from being scummy to being townie, and either town realized that they're wrong or scum realized they lost their push. it doesn't necessarily mean anything ai.