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[Yeet]

I’m very meh on Datisi’s second reason (I think there are plenty of reasons why scum!Aristeia might defend Datisi) but the first point feels like a mindmeld reason, which is akin to the kind of logic that appeals to me more.

[fua]

did you feel that ari was buddying you in any sort of you at that point in time?

This is what I was thinking earlier when I was talking to Mathblade.

[Yeet]

What do people think of fua/if there is anything particular townie about them I would be interested. The predominant concern I have with this slot is that I see a very bland ISO which to me signals scum going through the motions.

[fua]

Bland ISO? What do you want me to do, blown up like Nordom did?

[Datisi]

like i know this might not be super helpful since it's coming from my pov but yeah

pedit: she 100% was buddying me, but she always does that regardless of alignment

to answer your actual question, not really. there was some general "what if she's defending me to white knight me!?!" paranoia, but when baltar said how he thought he wouldn't call someone out in my defense while i wasn't around as scum, i thought how that could as well apply to her

ppedit: the above pedit is re 1626

[Nero Cain]

just add salt

[fua]

Mmm. Salty apples.

[humaneatingmonkey]

meanwhile, i didn't really feel that ari was genuine with me. it felt like she chose her victim and went hard at it. like she decided that i'm it and i'm going down. it was always misrepresentation and hostility first (i even tried to deescalate), and i didn't feel that there was a legitimate attempt to sort me or give me any reasonable doubt. if pooky really was good, i doubt she would have decided that i was scum based on the lame stuff she had on me (that she mostly made up, btw - the "ghosting", the "busywork", and the "trap")

[Yeet]

Your tales feel very lukewarm and almost too straight/calculated and not as nuanced as some other slots. Many of your reads feel more like objective summaries/statements rather than feelings which I feel are more complicated. It could be a playstyle difference. This is purely a gut read, of course. I can do a deeper dive sometime if you would like.

[Yeet]

*takes not tales.

[fua]

I would also like to mention that HEM’s style of play is easy LHF because he tends to be snappy and blunt with his play, so he was kind of looking like LHF to me which is what made me hesitate and put him in neutral instead of jumping on him immediately.

[fua]

Your tales feel very lukewarm and almost too straight/calculated and not as nuanced as some other slots. Many of your reads feel more like objective summaries/statements rather than feelings which I feel are more complicated. It could be a playstyle difference. This is purely a gut read, of course. I can do a deeper dive sometime if you would like.

What do you mean by lukewarm? Example?

[Yeet]

The readslist I quoted stuck out to me, for one.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i can go through her iso later if you want

yes please, i'd rather not mislim a town pooky so if you can help me get a harder read, that would be great

[fireisredsir]

i agreed with ari and saw the monkey/her interaction making way more sense from her side. with monkey unknown alignment that had me leaning more town on her, but if monkey is town then that doesn't mean as much to me. i have mostly agreed with other things she's said too, but i haven't seen her make many reads besides monkey in a while

[Nero Cain]

Fua, if you felt Ari was being scummy in the Ari v HEM fight why would you agree that Fire was scummy for being the mediator in that fight?

[fua]

Yeah, but the difference is that I’m not jumping on whatever the most popular wagon is just because it was in style to do so. I don’t see how SRing Ari, Deas. and Fire are lukewarm takes at all considering others look at them as consensus town and I’m interested in what your definition of lukewarm actually is. Who are your scumreads besides me? At the moment it just feels like OMGUS and nothing else. Even Skitter is voting me because my takes are the opposite of hers, so these are some strange double standards.

[MathBlade]

She’s way more defensive than offensive than I care for.

Plus Ari is known for good reads and hers have been bad.

Like Ari was saying the HEM wagon feels Townie
But yet she isn’t been offensive on the people on my wagon.

She seems off.

[fua]

Fua, if you felt Ari was being scummy in the Ari v HEM fight why would you agree that Fire was scummy for being the mediator in that fight?

It wasn’t necessarily being the mediator when she directly took Ari’s side anyway. I have reasons beyond that but I would prefer not to disclose them at the moment.

[MathBlade]

Yeah, but the difference is that I’m not jumping on whatever the most popular wagon is just because it was in style to do so. I don’t see how SRing Ari, Deas. and Fire are lukewarm takes at all considering others look at them as consensus town and I’m interested in what your definition of lukewarm actually is. Who are your scumreads besides me? At the moment it just feels like OMGUS and nothing else. Even Skitter is voting me because my takes are the opposite of hers, so these are some strange double standards.

Plus the defense of Skitter was just “I’m wrong” and that’s it?

[fua]

You don’t have to be unbiased to mediate and Fire has directly admitted that they took Ari’s side as well as literally stating they were playing mediator.

[fireisredsir]

Fua, if you felt Ari was being scummy in the Ari v HEM fight why would you agree that Fire was scummy for being the mediator in that fight?

because now they decided I'm not the mediator anymore cause that doesn't suit the new narrative of me "hopping to Ari's defense" (which tbh is probably more accurate anyway, i believe I was on the side of REASON and LOGIC as always but i think that was more ari's side)

[MathBlade]

So how do we reach scoring? A game of go ends when both players pass, agreeing that there is nothing more they can do. Then they look to see if they agree on which stones on the board are alive or would inevitably be captured, and if they disagree they start playing again until they agree, and pass again.

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humaneatingmonkey (6): Aristeia, VP Baltar, skitter30, Datisi, fireisredsir, Yeet

[E-4]

MathBlade (4): DeasVail, tenebrousluminary, Cape90, Nero Cain
GeneralWu (2): fua, Save The Dragons
Datisi (1): humaneatingmonkey
Cape90 (1): MathBlade
Yeet (1): Frogsterking

Not Voting (5): Scorpious, MalcolmTucker, Eyes without a face, GeneralWu

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to achieve an eliminaton.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2022-03-12 05:15:00).

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It’s a pretty outlandish claim all of herself, VP, Skitter, Datisi, fire, and Yeet are all town.
It’s even more outlandish DV, tene, Cape, and Nero are all town.

I want Ari to push someone rather than just say pushes are bad.

[Yeet]

Yeah, but the difference is that I’m not jumping on whatever the most popular wagon is just because it was in style to do so. I don’t see how SRing Ari, Deas. and Fire are lukewarm takes at all considering others look at them as consensus town and I’m interested in what your definition of lukewarm actually is. Who are your scumreads besides me? At the moment it just feels like OMGUS and nothing else. Even Skitter is voting me because my takes are the opposite of hers, so these are some strange double standards.

This was a really weird reaction to my push

[fua]

They've kind of been piling on to individual wagons and their three votes have just been whatever's easiest to pick out at the time. I think their callout of Tenebro was okay but I also want to see who they actually scumread throughout today.

mm idk about this characterization. mediator, sure ok, that's just kinda what i do sometimes. dunno why thats a scummy thing.

So this doesn’t mean anything?