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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:49 am

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In post 1647, MathBlade wrote:It’s a pretty outlandish claim all of herself, VP, Skitter, Datisi, fire, and Yeet are all town.
Math town reading these slots all but assures that there's scum in these slots
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:49 am

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In post 1647, MathBlade wrote:It’s a pretty outlandish claim all of herself, VP, Skitter, Datisi, fire, and Yeet are all town.
It’s even more outlandish DV, tene, Cape, and Nero are all town.
how is the second *more* outlandish? you think it's more likely there was scum on you than on monkey?
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:49 am

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In post 1646, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1640, Nero Cain wrote:Fua, if you felt Ari was being scummy in the Ari v HEM fight why would you agree that Fire was scummy for being the mediator in that fight?
because now they decided I'm not the mediator anymore cause that doesn't suit the new narrative of me "hopping to Ari's defense" (which tbh is probably more accurate anyway, i believe I was on the side of REASON and LOGIC as always but i think that was more ari's side)
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:50 am

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In post 1650, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1647, MathBlade wrote:It’s a pretty outlandish claim all of herself, VP, Skitter, Datisi, fire, and Yeet are all town.
Math town reading these slots all but assures that there's scum in these slots
I literally don’t. I was pushing Skitter last night.
I don’t townread Datisi and think there is atleast a scum in Datisi/Wu
Fire is in my PoE I mentioned

VP is a townlean at best.

Yeet I haven’t seen enough of to make a read
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:51 am

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ok i misread then sorry
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:51 am

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In post 1651, Datisi wrote:
In post 1647, MathBlade wrote:It’s a pretty outlandish claim all of herself, VP, Skitter, Datisi, fire, and Yeet are all town.
It’s even more outlandish DV, tene, Cape, and Nero are all town.
how is the second *more* outlandish? you think it's more likely there was scum on you than on monkey?
It’s more outlandish to assume 10 players are all town versus 6.
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:52 am

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Scum might honestly be just as easy as Wu, Yeet, Fire, and Ari.
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:52 am

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ackvhually it would be assuming 9 not 10

but also i thought it was assuming 4 vs 5 as opposed to 9 vs 5 so don't mind me
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:53 am

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In post 1649, fua wrote:So this doesn’t mean anything?
my interpretation of mediator is being on the side of reason and logic. i think i was doing that, and i think i try to do that a lot. i think that was more ari's side in this case

also fwiw reason and logic don't really correlate that strongly to being town, scum is often the more reasonable and logical one in a 1v1. but i still find it personally useful to me to "mediate" as you call it because i think it helps me get a better feel for the alignments of the people involved
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:53 am

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I have mixed feelings about all of the available targets right now. I'm not sure whether to pick my favorite and go there, or make a more sincere but useless vote while I wait and see how the wagons develop. For now, I shall do nothing.
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:54 am

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math, how much on your read of me is based on vca vs actually reading the game? because this is a bit frustrating
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:54 am

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“Yeah, that’s fair. I tend to be on the side of reason and logic sometimes” is apparently what you said there. Which makes zero sense in that context. This is just backpedaling.
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:54 am

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naw, any solve without Skitter or VP is wrong.
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:55 am

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In post 1657, Datisi wrote:ackvhually it would be assuming 9 not 10

but also i thought it was assuming 4 vs 5 as opposed to 9 vs 5 so don't mind me
From her POV yeah

Mainly I think even if she thinks my narrative is wrong she needs to find a scum in those wagons or try to sell that 10 town (9 other than herself case).
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:55 am

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In post 1662, Nero Cain wrote:naw, any solve without Skitter or VP is wrong.
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:55 am

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In post 1662, Nero Cain wrote:naw, any solve without Skitter or VP is wrong.
Who would you replace?
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:56 am

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In post 1660, Datisi wrote:math, how much on your read of me is based on vca vs actually reading the game? because this is a bit frustrating
Bit of both.
Some of the mason PT lead me that way
Some of my initial reads.

Like Skitter hasn’t had a “ping” she gets pings. It’s weird.

The relationship dynamics between you and Ari are off
Not enough flirting.
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:58 am

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In post 1652, fua wrote:If you think I’m scum now you can always vote me.
not especially but i think it's a possibility! i have agreed with enough of your reads, mostly early on, that i am not that suspicious. but you do seem to be making an effort to look town in a way that i hadn't seen when i looked st your previous town games. but maybe that's just a playstyle change to try to be more useful, which is a good thing
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:59 am

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In post 1661, fua wrote:“Yeah, that’s fair. I tend to be on the side of reason and logic sometimes” is apparently what you said there. Which makes zero sense in that context. This is just backpedaling.
why doesn't that make sense? that's what i thought you meant. mediator = impartial judge who helps resolve a conflict through the use of reason and logic. that's how i would define it at least
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:59 am

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In post 1666, MathBlade wrote:Like Skitter hasn’t had a “ping” she gets pings. It’s weird.
what does this mean?

and like, the rest of your post could be easily explained by different circumstances that precedent, especially for what i imagine happened in the mason pt, but

idk if i have it in me rn to argue
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:00 am

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In post 1658, fireisredsir wrote:my interpretation of mediator is being on the side of reason and logic.
then your "interpretation" is wrong. A mediator is someone who tries to bring peace and resolution to a conflict. You could say "well Nero/Fua is wrong about me being a mediator b/c I was taking the side of Ari."

Also, Ari was straight up being childish.
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:02 am

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mm ok then i would disagree with being called a mediator because i do not think peace was my goal. resolution, maybe?
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:04 am

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In post 1665, fua wrote:
In post 1662, Nero Cain wrote:naw, any solve without Skitter or VP is wrong.
Who would you replace?
Ari, maybe Wu.

Eyes is also p scummy. I'd flip him too.
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:04 am

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In post 1670, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1658, fireisredsir wrote:my interpretation of mediator is being on the side of reason and logic.
then your "interpretation" is wrong. A mediator is someone who tries to bring peace and resolution to a conflict. You could say "well Nero/Fua is wrong about me being a mediator b/c I was taking the side of Ari."

Also, Ari was straight up being childish.
I think I am quite reasonable actually : )
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:05 am

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Would you say you are beary reasonable?
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