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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:13 am

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I am not 100% convinced Dats is scum just b/c he's trying to form a CW to Ari but its possible I guess.
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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:14 am

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In post 1853, Aristeia wrote:I decided to vote for scorp because of all the people who are not posting/participating he is the most egregious example for me.
what were factors in determining who was the "most egregious example"?
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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:15 am

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we always do skitter first but I'm not sold they both can't be scum.
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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:18 am

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What is the case on Ari? I'm going to give up on reading pages of spam shitting from a bunch of people.
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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:18 am

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In post 1857, Aristeia wrote:do you see anyone voting for scorp?
I wanted to, but then everyone got mad at you for doing it, so clearly that is not acceptable for some reason.
In post 1870, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1809, fua wrote:Because I don’t think you’re thinking about the game critically and are trying to deflect onto other people when possible. And I’m really not following Nero around, since I completely disagree with his reads on Mathblade, Yeet, and VP.
you TR wu in . then Nero shows up and is sus of wu in . you say good point in and follow Nero to wu in .

nero says I'm a mediator in , you say I'm a mediator in

you also TR skitter in . Nero starts wanting a skitter lim in . you SR skitter in .

nero starts getting less interested in wu somewhere around . you switch off wu onto ari in , and say you're hesitant with the wu wagon now on . you did vote ari before him, so credit there.

Nero says there's scum in VP/skitter/yeet in , you say yeet is in your solve in . (you had already leaned scum on yeet earlier, so this isn't a switch of opinion, but you def do not have the opposite read)

Nero says that ari's vote on scorp is bad because she's voting limbait in , you say ari's vote on scorp is bad because she's voting limbait in .

mathblade read is irrelevant because he is claimed mason, so i don't know why you have that as an example of a place where you and Nero differ. the only one that stands is VP. anyway it's not like you're going to agree with him on every single read, so pointing out one where you don't doesn't disprove my point. it's a pattern of general behavior of sheeping after things he says, even down to using the same phrasing that he does
This has me rethinking my fire-scum read, as well as my hesitation on fua.
In post 1875, fua wrote:
In post 1872, Aristeia wrote:that's a good point about fua

VOTE: fua
Ari and Fire scum together?
I was planning to comment on this post that I am surprised you did not have a stronger response to fire's well researched and thought out post.

Then I realized this was coming from you, as opposed to just anyone, so I must ask:

Who is ignoring accusations against them now, fua?

VOTE: fua
In post 1896, fua wrote:Ari’s wagon is pure though.
Based on what?
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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:19 am

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In post 1790, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1783, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1779, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1748, Datisi wrote:scorpious, do you have a single read this game or are you just gonna throw unhelpful posts
oof, I really haven't. fair assessment, I'll try to step it up..
I got a late start on this on and there is a lot of activity, not an excuse,buy again I can't argue I havent done much.
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In post 1826, Scorpious wrote:Using the KISS method and narrowing it down . I would favor an ari launch over a Wu launch.
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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:20 am

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In post 1928, VP Baltar wrote:What is the case on Ari? I'm going to give up on reading pages of spam shitting from a bunch of people.
she refused to do what math told her to (push someone that was on the math/monkey wagon) and she voted scorp
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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:22 am

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In post 1928, VP Baltar wrote:What is the case on Ari? I'm going to give up on reading pages of spam shitting from a bunch of people.
Monkey’s case in the mason PT. (Which he can do)
Saying that the HEM and my wagon are all town and refusing to make a reads list
When she put one up it was zero effort “not in order” and it had Wu as scum yet she never voted Wu and was attacking me
Her defense of Skitter when she’s likely in scum meta range for no “pings” as just “I townread her”
Her refusal to push anyone and instead is more begging me to stop pushing her.
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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:23 am

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Oh and the low hanging scorpion vote

I can’t speak to prior early game where Monkey has his read from
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:26 am

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Like Ari’s entire point was “What if you’re wrong about Datisi/Wu having a scum” then having Wu in her scumreads feels very disingenuous
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:26 am

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Hell yes, good vote luminary! VOTE: fua
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:27 am

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In post 1552, Aristeia wrote:if Datisi/Wu/HEM/Nor are all town it could just mean town are moving from one wagon to another while scum are twiddling their thumbs no?
Yet she scumreads Wu?
C’mon now
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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:29 am

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In post 1931, Datisi wrote:
In post 1928, VP Baltar wrote:What is the case on Ari? I'm going to give up on reading pages of spam shitting from a bunch of people.
she refused to do what math told her to (push someone that was on the math/monkey wagon) and she voted scorp
I sort of figured this was Math being loud.

I'm utterly confused how people can look at the Wu wagon falling apart a second time and not see that as scummy. By all accounts, Wu should be LHF that scum are eager to hammer through, yet it has stalled repeatedly at the cusp of being serious -- even though Nero and others were flipping a shit earlier today about how scummy Wu is and how much they wanted him dead if it were not for people defending Wu. If at any point you said Wu is scum...WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU NOT VOTING WU.

Math is getting taken for a ride again because he is loud and refuses to listen to anything but his own theories about the game. Math, I'm trying to work with you here. We will get a lot of information out of this Wu flip. Please work with me.

I saw Math say somethin about HEM making some kind of convincing case about Ari in their PT....If it's good, then fucking post it. If it is anything like the arguments HEM was making earlier in the game, I am skeptical.

This game has quickly become a clown show of terrible play and it is annoying me.
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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:30 am

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Ari, vote Wu.
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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:32 am

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In post 1936, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1552, Aristeia wrote:if Datisi/Wu/HEM/Nor are all town it could just mean town are moving from one wagon to another while scum are twiddling their thumbs no?
Yet she scumreads Wu?
C’mon now
i did think this was kinda weird. i hadnt got the impression at all that she scumread wu until her read list
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:32 am

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In post 1937, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1931, Datisi wrote:
In post 1928, VP Baltar wrote:What is the case on Ari? I'm going to give up on reading pages of spam shitting from a bunch of people.
she refused to do what math told her to (push someone that was on the math/monkey wagon) and she voted scorp
I sort of figured this was Math being loud.

I'm utterly confused how people can look at the Wu wagon falling apart a second time and not see that as scummy. By all accounts, Wu should be LHF that scum are eager to hammer through, yet it has stalled repeatedly at the cusp of being serious -- even though Nero and others were flipping a shit earlier today about how scummy Wu is and how much they wanted him dead if it were not for people defending Wu. If at any point you said Wu is scum...WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU NOT VOTING WU.

Math is getting taken for a ride again because he is loud and refuses to listen to anything but his own theories about the game. Math, I'm trying to work with you here. We will get a lot of information out of this Wu flip. Please work with me.

I saw Math say somethin about HEM making some kind of convincing case about Ari in their PT....If it's good, then fucking post it. If it is anything like the arguments HEM was making earlier in the game, I am skeptical.

This game has quickly become a clown show of terrible play and it is annoying me.
I have been trying to work with people.
Being loud is not the same as uncooperative.
I am working with Nero and Fua who I townread.
I agree a Wu flip is info and why if Ari falls apart I want Wu.

However human being a newer less active player deserves the chance to explain their read and play.
People were skeptical because scum run good defense.

I think Ari not voting Wu if she flips red gives definite ammo towards a Wu flip.
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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:33 am

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VP would you settle for a D1 fua lim?
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Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:37 am

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Furthermore VP before I posted the game was wagoning two masons
It was terrible play before I even posted.
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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:38 am

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Hey Math can you elaborate on what you discovered during the VCA you did on replace in?
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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:39 am

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In post 1937, VP Baltar wrote:This game has quickly become a clown show of terrible play and it is annoying me.
this might be a new one

unless i'm misremembering that one vp scumgame that i was rereading at new years eve while roaming the foggy streets

i'll check later
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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:39 am

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VOTE: wu

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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:41 am

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In post 1937, VP Baltar wrote:I'm utterly confused how people can look at the Wu wagon falling apart a second time and not see that as scummy. By all accounts, Wu should be LHF that scum are eager to hammer through, yet it has stalled repeatedly at the cusp of being serious
mm maybe, but scum would probably rather not all pile on LHF if they think no scum is in danger of being limmed
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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:42 am

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In post 1943, Frogsterking wrote:Hey Math can you elaborate on what you discovered during the VCA you did on replace in?
I have to work now lunch break is over. I came in and the VCs were both on me and Monkey. This doesn’t “just happen” that two masons are wagoned. Means scum likely knew who we were already.

Means scum deviated intentionally to us means scum on the wagons.
Players deviated from Datisi and Wu to me and HEM
(Before Fite complains there’s some intermediary steps which fire highlights)

But the gist is to find that why.
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Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:44 am

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In post 1947, MathBlade wrote:Means scum likely knew who we were already.
is it just me or is like, purposefully wagoning someone you know is a mason a HORRIBLE scum strategy? >_>
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Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:45 am

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it also makes no sense to assume that scum would know that
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