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[VP Baltar]

Furthermore VP before I posted the game was wagoning two masons
It was terrible play before I even posted.

Actually, I was pushing for Wu or HEM flip, and that's where the day was heading, not toward both the masons getting wagoned. You just didn't read the game before you claimed.

I'm not even mad at you for claiming. Whatever. Not how I would have played it, but I get where you're coming from. It's the same logic as our last game when I cleared A50.

But listen, you spamming the thread to make the same points again and again is not helpful. You only need to say it once. The beauty of forum mafia is that your words are immortalized forever and people can refer back to them.

When I say loud, I mean you spam the thread and say the same things repeatedly and insist you're right even if lots of other people disagree. It's exhausting and makes catching up impossible for people.

I'm trying to work with you. if you have an actual Ari case, post that shit.

[Frogsterking]

Hey Math can you elaborate on what you discovered during the VCA you did on replace in?

I have to work now lunch break is over. I came in and the VCs were both on me and Monkey. This doesn’t “just happen” that two masons are wagoned. Means scum likely knew who we were already.

Means scum deviated intentionally to us means scum on the wagons.
Players deviated from Datisi and Wu to me and HEM
(Before Fite complains there’s some intermediary steps which fire highlights)

But the gist is to find that why.

Hmm the joint probability of both masons being wagoned does seem pretty low. I can try to figure out the probability of that.

[MathBlade]

Means scum likely knew who we were already.

is it just me or is like, purposefully wagoning someone you know is a mason a HORRIBLE scum strategy? >_>

It’s a good one I have seen successful.
It forces a second mason claim.

[Frogsterking]

Means scum likely knew who we were already.

is it just me or is like, purposefully wagoning someone you know is a mason a HORRIBLE scum strategy? >_>

I would do it though to be fair

[tenebrousluminary]

fua is scum. Vote for them. Thank you.

According to Malcolm, town-aligned players address any accusations made against them, so he is obligated to vote with me. Anytime now, Malcolm!

[VP Baltar]

VP would you settle for a D1 fua lim?

What is the case? I'm sure it got lost in all this shit spew.

I didn't like fua early in the day, but I felt better about them recently after they explained some of their play in that chat with fire.

[MathBlade]

Furthermore VP before I posted the game was wagoning two masons
It was terrible play before I even posted.

Actually, I was pushing for Wu or HEM flip, and that's where the day was heading, not toward both the masons getting wagoned. You just didn't read the game before you claimed.

I'm not even mad at you for claiming. Whatever. Not how I would have played it, but I get where you're coming from. It's the same logic as our last game when I cleared A50.

But listen, you spamming the thread to make the same points again and again is not helpful. You only need to say it once. The beauty of forum mafia is that your words are immortalized forever and people can refer back to them.

When I say loud, I mean you spam the thread and say the same things repeatedly and insist you're right even if lots of other people disagree. It's exhausting and makes catching up impossible for people.

I'm trying to work with you. if you have an actual Ari case, post that shit.

The only people disagreeing are in my scum PoE and you.

There’s a wagon on Ari for a reason
Stop focusing on me if you’re town.

[VP Baltar]

Means scum likely knew who we were already.

is it just me or is like, purposefully wagoning someone you know is a mason a HORRIBLE scum strategy? >_>

It’s a good one I have seen successful.
It forces a second mason claim.

if you know who they are, why do you have to force them to claim? what the hell is the use of that?

[Datisi]

Means scum likely knew who we were already.

is it just me or is like, purposefully wagoning someone you know is a mason a HORRIBLE scum strategy? >_>

It’s a good one I have seen successful.
It forces a second mason claim.

you're arguing scum knew both masons

so they decided to wagon both of you so that when both of you claim, they are left looking like shit and now you will attract any and all protectives in town and also openly lead the town during the day and ??? profit???

[tenebrousluminary]

This doesn’t “just happen” that two masons are wagoned. Means scum likely knew who we were already.

There is paranoia, and then there is this. Math, how is that even possible? You are going too far with your line of logic about the votes against you and monkey.

[MathBlade]

This doesn’t “just happen” that two masons are wagoned. Means scum likely knew who we were already.

There is paranoia, and then there is this. Math, how is that even possible? You are going too far with your line of logic about the votes against you and monkey.

How is what even possible?

10/19 players on me and Monkey
Means scum on me and Monkey

That’s all facts.

[Frogsterking]

Scorp is someone who won’t defend himself and as you said, is a low poster/not participating. It’s uncontroversial LHF.

LHF implies town alignment and I don't really see how you're making that determination.

Not necessarily, but it’s FoS because I SR you and you’re pushing him.

you SR me for pushing him.

you townread him because you SR me.

isn't that just circular logic?

Nope.

that's a good point about fua

VOTE: fua

Ari and Fire scum together?

Ari’s wagon is pure though.

I didn't like fua's early posts or their recent posts here either

[VP Baltar]

There’s a wagon on Ari for a reason
Stop focusing on me if you’re town.

WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THE ARI WAGON?????????

Like I asked for this case more than once, and "she argued with Hem and doesn't vote WU" is not a fucking case. So ELI5


And I'm talking to you because you're 50% of the posts in a LARGE GAME since you entered. If you would chill the fuck out and stop trying to big dick energy the whole game, we could land somewhere good today. There have been 12+ pages added since I got up 5 hours ago, and you can't tell me that is quality work happening in those pages because I read half of them before I had to come here to the future and plead with you to have some sense.

[Datisi]

Means scum on me and Monkey

even if this is taken as fact, from it it does not follow that "scum knew you two were masons, and then forced you to claim in order to make their own lives even more difficult"

like, if scum knew you were masons (and i really don't think they did because how could they), it seems much more likely to me they would let townies push you and wouldn't touch you because nothing good ever comes from that wagon

[VP Baltar]

I didn't like fua's early posts or their recent posts here either

can you expand on what you didn't like? What specifically?

[Datisi]

vp baltar is my spirit animal

[fireisredsir]

VP would you settle for a D1 fua lim?

What is the case? I'm sure it got lost in all this shit spew.

I didn't like fua early in the day, but I felt better about them recently after they explained some of their play in that chat with fire.

i talked about how they've been sheeping Nero all game in 1872. idk if i trust the people (tene) who jumped on that to vote for fua tho. yeet had already voted with 1629 and 1635, frogster wanted a lim there apparently but i can't find any reasoning, and skitter had voted with 1372

[tenebrousluminary]

This doesn’t “just happen” that two masons are wagoned. Means scum likely knew who we were already.

There is paranoia, and then there is this. Math, how is that even possible? You are going too far with your line of logic about the votes against you and monkey.

How is what even possible?

10/19 players on me and Monkey
Means scum on me and Monkey

That’s all facts.

I am talking about your assertion that scum knew you were masons already. That does not make sense. Even if they were voting you, they got lucky.

[MathBlade]

There’s a wagon on Ari for a reason
Stop focusing on me if you’re town.

WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THE ARI WAGON?????????

Like I asked for this case more than once, and "she argued with Hem and doesn't vote WU" is not a fucking case. So ELI5


And I'm talking to you because you're 50% of the posts in a LARGE GAME since you entered. If you would chill the fuck out and stop trying to big dick energy the whole game, we could land somewhere good today. There have been 12+ pages added since I got up 5 hours ago, and you can't tell me that is quality work happening in those pages because I read half of them before I had to come here to the future and plead with you to have some sense.

I already explained it like you’re 5.

I can’t shut up while you talk to me it’s a vicious cycle.

You deliberately ignored 3-4 other reasons and just that.
Ari being inconsistent with scumreads ignored
Ari defending scum tells ignored
And it’s quality work from scum trying to avoid elimming Ari.

And please stop using genitalia in a game.

If people would stop misrepping me and actually listen this wouldn’t be happening
But scum don’t want Ari elimmed

And if I shut up people won’t vote Ari

So it’s lose lose if I shut up

So my only hope is to try to keep explaining and hope people quit ignoring it

[MathBlade]

This doesn’t “just happen” that two masons are wagoned. Means scum likely knew who we were already.

There is paranoia, and then there is this. Math, how is that even possible? You are going too far with your line of logic about the votes against you and monkey.

How is what even possible?

10/19 players on me and Monkey
Means scum on me and Monkey

That’s all facts.

I am talking about your assertion that scum knew you were masons already. That does not make sense. Even if they were voting you, they got lucky.

Okay then move on?

Scum are on my wagons
Ari refuses to hunt on those wagons
And instead the scum try to take who I am working with away in fua and Nero

[Frogsterking]

I didn't like fua's early posts or their recent posts here either

can you expand on what you didn't like? What specifically?

I don't see the read progression for fua to townread all of the Ari wagon, I don't think fua's FoS of Fire is very believable and I think fua is blending by dogpiling Ari.

[tenebrousluminary]

There’s a wagon on Ari for a reason
Stop focusing on me if you’re town.

WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THE ARI WAGON?????????

Like I asked for this case more than once, and "she argued with Hem and doesn't vote WU" is not a fucking case. So ELI5


And I'm talking to you because you're 50% of the posts in a LARGE GAME since you entered. If you would chill the fuck out and stop trying to big dick energy the whole game, we could land somewhere good today. There have been 12+ pages added since I got up 5 hours ago, and you can't tell me that is quality work happening in those pages because I read half of them before I had to come here to the future and plead with you to have some sense.

I have to agree. I understand that you are town, Math, but if you could calm down a little and explain yourself more concisely, I think it would be good for the health of the game. I am having more trouble following the game lately, and I feel the percentage of posts I'm reading that are actually helpful or advance the game has cratered. We are just spinning in circles right now and I do not find it helpful.

VP would you settle for a D1 fua lim?

What is the case? I'm sure it got lost in all this shit spew.

I didn't like fua early in the day, but I felt better about them recently after they explained some of their play in that chat with fire.

i talked about how they've been sheeping Nero all game in 1872. idk if i trust the people (tene) who jumped on that to vote for fua tho. yeet had already voted with 1629 and 1635, frogster wanted a lim there apparently but i can't find any reasoning, and skitter had voted with 1372

If you base all your reads on your existing reads, you will never be able to recognize errors.

[tenebrousluminary]

This doesn’t “just happen” that two masons are wagoned. Means scum likely knew who we were already.

There is paranoia, and then there is this. Math, how is that even possible? You are going too far with your line of logic about the votes against you and monkey.

How is what even possible?

10/19 players on me and Monkey
Means scum on me and Monkey

That’s all facts.

I am talking about your assertion that scum knew you were masons already. That does not make sense. Even if they were voting you, they got lucky.

Okay then move on?

Scum are on my wagons
Ari refuses to hunt on those wagons
And instead the scum try to take who I am working with away in fua and Nero

I do not understand why you are upset with me for trying to help you correct a misstep in your thinking.

Not everyone in the game is scum. Some of us have honest opinions. The whole game is not about you and undermining you specifically.

[Aristeia]

mathblade you might not have figured this out yet

but scum want to work with you

[fireisredsir]

that is a good point

VOTE: fua