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Newbie 2090 (Game Over)

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:16 am

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Newbie 2090



Game ended with
Town victory


Player List (9):
Mr Turtle

Somnus

furtiveglance

PlmPestPlaY

GoldfishFromTheMoon
MorbidDino Alianna

BigTerp
masterbeans

TTTT (SE)

Lukewarm (SE)
*
marcistar (SE)
*

bold
= confirmed
* = prod

Endgamed (4/9):

Spoiler:
PlmPestPlaY endgamed. They were a
Town Tracker
.

TTTT endgamed. They were a
Vanilla Townie
.

furtiveglance endgamed. They were a
Vanilla Townie
.

GoldfishFromTheMoon endgamed. They were a
Vanilla Townie
.


Flips:

Spoiler:
marcistar was eliminated Day 1. They were a
Vanilla Townie
.

Lukewarm was shot Night 1. They were a
Vanilla Townie
.

Somnus was eliminated Day 2. They were a
Mafia Rolecop
.

BigTerp was shot Night 2. They were a
Town Doctor
.

Mr Turtle was eliminated Day 3. They were a
Mafia Goon
.


Important events and Vote counts:





Game Private Topics:


- Mod PT: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=89005
- Mafia PT: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=89006
- Dead/Spec Chat: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=89064
- TTTT's Diary (Requested by player): https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=89019

Spoiler: Vote Counter Settings
Living PlayersMr Turtle
Somnus
furtiveglance
PlmPestPlaY
GoldfishFromTheMoon
BigTerp
TTTT
Lukewarm
marcistar
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:20 am

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Setup Info

Newbie Setup
Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

ABC
Mafia
Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Rolecop
Mafia Goon
Row 1
Town Cop and Town Doctor
Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2
Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker
Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3
Town Mason and Town Mason
Town Tracker and Town Doctor
Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by
one mafia goon
and
five vanilla townies
appropriately, to create a
2-mafia
and
7-town
setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.
Mafia Roleblocker
action takes precedence over a
Town Jailkeeper
action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.


Spoiler: Full Setups
Column A & Row 1:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5



Sample Role PM's (click on the spoiler button to reveal)

Spoiler:
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a
Town Cop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are
Town
or
Mafia
. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a
Town Mason
.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a
Town Tracker
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a
Town Doctor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a
Town Friendly Neighbor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Goon
.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Rolecop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.
Vanilla Townies
and
Mafia Goons
will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:00 pm

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All Site Rules apply at all times.



General Rules:


1. Do not use my color,
Lavender (#967bb6)

2. If you believe a mod error has been made or you disagree with any action I took, please PM me immediately.
3. Please bold all questions or requests to the Mod if you make them in the thread
3.1. In general I will not answer any questions in public unless for general questions that will not hurt the game integrity. (for example, how a certain role would work in a setup is a valid public question but how my role works is not a valid question answerable in public)
4. You may not quote private communication of any kind, including (real or fabricated) Moderator-supplied information. Paraphrasing is acceptable.
4.1. You may not quote private topics or other out-of-game discussions (such as Hydra chats) in the public game thread, regardless of if the quotes are real or fabricated. Paraphrasing is acceptable.
4.2. You can always copy and paste the full content of your own posts (outside of moderator communication) so long as it does not contain any links to where it came from or any timestamps or any other kind of marks and labels that would indicate they for sure happened.
4.3. You may only ever paraphrase posts by other players and this is also subject to the same link/timestamp/label restriction as above.
5. Do not talk about this game anywhere else unless I have specified it is permitted such as in a private topic. This includes messaging other players.
5.1. You can talk about the game in the private threads given to you via PM, assuming you were given one. Otherwise, please refrain from talking about this game outside of this thread, and don't talk about other games inside of this game. This is a sitewide rule. See the announcement here.
6 Do not discuss any other ongoing games in this game thread.
7. Do not play against the spirit of the rules or of the game. Personal attacks will not be tolerated.
8. No invisible/small/encrypted text allowed. Also, no editing and deleting posts are allowed.
9. Vocaroos, Youtubes, etc, may not be used to make game-content posts. e.g., do not record a vacaroo with your thoughts about the game and post it.
10. All Private Topics (PTs) shared by two or more players during this game will be released unredacted and will follow the general rules of the website and the game.
10.1. Please keep this in mind if you have access to a shared PT.
11. Always play towards your win condition. Gambits are fine, directly harming your own team is not.
11.1. Any loophole abuse is not tolerated.
11.2. If you believe a mod error has happened, or believe game integrity was compromised in any way, you're responsible to contact me with details.
12. This ruleset is subject to change and to be completed at any time. If a change is made mid-game, it will be announced in-thread by the mod.
13. Any Violation of the General rules or Site rules may result in force replacing or Mod Killing you if necessary and will be reported to the website list moderators for further punishments if applicable.

Voting and Deadline Rules:


1. The Day 1 deadline is 10 days. All further days must have a 7-day deadline.
1.1. Extensions may be granted if there are replacements near the deadline, or under other extraordinary circumstances (e.g., site outages, major holidays).
2. All Night phases will have a 2-day deadline.
3. An elimination will happen when the majority of players vote for a certain player during a day phase and the day phase will end earlier with it.
3.1. majority of votes is (number of living players/2) +1, rounded down.
3.2. If there's no majority at the deadline, there's no elimination.
3.3. When the hammer vote is cast, all players, including the eliminated may talk freely until the final vote count and eliminated player's card-flip have been posted. I will lock the game thread at that time.
4. Once you are dead, you may not post in the game thread again. Not even a "Bah" post.
5. Voting must be bolded in the form Vote: Player - bold tags

Code: Select all

[b]Vote: Player[/b]

or

Code: Select all

[vote]Player[/vote]

or else they will not be counted.
5.1. Unvotes are not required to change your vote, but they are helpful.
5.2. Can Unvote using

Code: Select all

[b]Unvote: Player[/b]

or

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[unvote]Player[/unvote]

5.3. I'm using an automated vote counter. If you don't use the vote tags, be sure to add a colon after the word "Vote" or else it will not be counted.
5.4. Votes inside of spoiler tags or hidden texts will not be counted.
5.5. I don't mind if you use nicknames/abbreviations when you vote for someone. But if I have no idea who you're voting for, then the vote won't be counted.

Activity Rules:


1. A prod PM will be issued if any player does not post in the main game thread for 36 hours.
1.1. Prods will be announced in-thread.
1.2. You have 48 hours to confirm your role or pick up your prod by posting in-game or by a PM to me if at a night phase. After this time, I will begin seeking a replacement.
2. If you show up before being replaced you may continue the game.
3. I will seek replacement immediately without waiting if a player receives three prods.
4. If you need to replace out of this game, send me a private message about it.
4.1.
Do NOT post that you want to be replaced, or that you have asked to be replaced in the game thread.

4.2. I will acknowledge your replacement request by replying to your PM. From that time forward, you are out of the game. Do not make any more posts in the game thread after that.
4.3. This is a site rule that can entail penalties if broken. It applies to all mafia games at Mafiascum.net unless the game moderator explicitly states otherwise.
5. If you plan to be gone for over 48 hours, please announce that you will be V/LA in-thread in bold text to notify me.
5.1. If you are V/LA for more than a week, I suggest requesting replacement, but it's not required.
5.2. For long V/LA's, I expect you to post at least once every four days. the prod function will be applied normally at the start of the fifth day and I will replace you on the seventh day. This is not about me not understanding you might have a real-life problem. It's because the other players in-game might suffer from the long disappearance and as a Moderator I'm responsible for keeping my game active and fun.

And the most important rule:

Have fun!
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:04 pm

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Introduction and Tips
Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.


Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips


Activity


Try to check in at least once a day.
Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone
plays
. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta


Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.


Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!
While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!
As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.
That's okay!
Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.
Have fun!
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:37 pm

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Role PM's have been sent out. Please confirm using the method described by your role PM.

Pregame will end and the game will begin in (expired on 2022-03-05 06:30:00) or when all players confirm their roles.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:58 pm

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Vote Count 1-1
Day 1 Begins!




Not Voting (9):
Mr Turtle, Somnus, furtiveglance, PlmPestPlaY, Alianna, masterbeans, TTTT, Lukewarm, marcistar


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.



Deadline: March 15, 5 am GMT.

Countdown: (expired on 2022-03-15 05:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- Seeking a replacement for masterbeans as they failed to confirm their role pm.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:09 pm

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sup nerds

VOTE: Mr Turtle
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:10 pm

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Hello everyone! I've never played seriously but looking forward to this game.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:10 pm

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Third by about a minute. Beware mafia. I will solve this game before you can kill me
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:11 pm

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Anyone want to claim scum?
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:14 pm

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I read in the rules that you're allowed to claim mafia but not claim that you are mafia with someone else. In that case, the mafia are NOT me and TTTT.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:19 pm

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Eww, game launch after midnight - evil mod, I need sleep :(

As always VOTE: Marci
I have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!

They're super opinionated and make a lot of assumptions, they're also pretty clumsy with word choice - Bell
Luke, respect for your scumgame has gone up massively - Hectic
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:21 pm

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Only 10:21 here.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:24 pm

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In post 10, furtiveglance wrote:I read in the rules that you're allowed to claim mafia but not claim that you are mafia with someone else. In that case, the mafia are NOT me and TTTT.
But can I trust you?
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:27 pm

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In post 13, Alianna wrote:
In post 10, furtiveglance wrote:I read in the rules that you're allowed to claim mafia but not claim that you are mafia with someone else. In that case, the mafia are NOT me and TTTT.
But can I trust you?
There may come a time when you have to, if you are town.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:29 pm

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'Sup, nerds? It's like a Newbie 2088 reunion episode in here. Gross.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:32 pm

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=88666
3 of us yeah. I said TTTT was a scumlean early, TTTT and Lukewarm townread each other, TTTT townread me and Lukewarm scumread me. I was Tracker, Lukewarm was VT and TTTT was Mafia.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:34 pm

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I know. I read through the game from the start as it was ongoing. Glad you came back.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:36 pm

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In post 17, Somnus wrote:I know. I read through the game from the start as it was ongoing. Glad you came back.
And I read through the newbie game in which you bamboozled everyone and were given hammer in final 3 as Mafia. Was that 2087?
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:38 pm

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Correct. But I've left my murderous ways behind. Like yeah, I may have put a bullet in the heads of 6 people a while back, but I'm a changed man these days.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:39 pm

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Hilariously, the only townie I didn't have a hand in killing in that game was Malcolm.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:43 pm

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Alianna
do you mind getting a profile pic?
it's be easier to follow the game if we have an image to tie to your posts
also how's it feel to role scum in your first serious game?
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:57 pm

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furtive and Somnus interactions don't look like a scumteam on page1
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:59 pm

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VOTE: Alianna
this is more than random
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:00 pm

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You and I are basically conftown. If I know math, WHICH I DON'T, nobody rolls maf two games in a row in NewD3. You and I are practically confirmed ICs. Game is practically solved already.
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