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[fireisredsir]

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This is town her ISO

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anything in particular that made you word this post like this? I'm not sure I understand what the town part in there is supposed to say

it's a link to a different game, where she's town, and talks about "pings" a lot. in contrast to this game where she hasn't much. see 1711 for more info

[Cape90]

@baltar, is there a reason why you did not include me in the early readslist? i see you have a null category, and pretty sure i had posted at the time

I started with the full list of names at the start of my catch up and was slotting them into those piles as I was going along and getting feelings one way or the other. So while I had a null category, by the time I finished read I was kind of tired and didn't feel like writing out WHY I felt null on a bunch of people still (including you), I just knew I wasn't ready to make an alignment call on those people yet.

this exchange just feels so wrong

i mean he's prob scum .

So Nero, you seem pretty locked into the fact that:
1. there are 2 scum in our neighborhood
2. That I am town versus skitter and VP Baltar even though I definitely feel like I have done less then both.

Why is this exactly

[Cape90]

Like Skitter hasn’t had a “ping” she gets pings. It’s weird.

what does this mean?

and like, the rest of your post could be easily explained by different circumstances that precedent, especially for what i imagine happened in the mason pt, but

idk if i have it in me rn to argue

It’s a word tell.

Skitter gets “pings” when town.
I don’t see that here for her

ok i was gonna make fun of this cause it doesn't say anything about whether she gets "pings" as maf, but instead i decided to just go check some recent games

slaughter hour (maf): 0 pings, 350 posts
open 841 (town): 11 pings, 1073 posts
micro 1035 (town): 3 pings, 295 posts
mini 2254 (town): 1 ping, 77 posts
mini 2247 (maf): 1 ping, 130 hydra posts
mini normal 2224 (maf): 0 pings, 50 posts
open 779 (town): 7 pings, 305 posts

this game: 1 ping, 130 posts

so maybe she does actually get pings less as maf. but her pings per post (ppp) as town is like 1 per 100 posts and she's kinda on pace with that so idk if it's conclusive. but this was fun at least

ping ping ping ping

I have no idea how you all even come up with this stuff

[Mizzytastic]

April Ludgate

has replaced

Aristeia

. Please welcome them.

[Cape90]

Ari is scum and when asked to explain their reads throws a hisssy fit? I kinda think that scum would have reacted in a more "pro-town" manner. + that whole "u fell into my trap!" just seems so...silly. Isn't pooky supposed to be really good? b/c this doesn't really look it to me.

By extension, doesn't this literally fit in with the argument against Aristeia in 217, 219, 223, 224, 227, 229, 231, 233, 504, 510 etc, etc.?

[Cape90]

Hi April

[April Ludgate]

Ciao.

[Cape90]

i also don't think she'd have much of a reason to defend me if she were scum since she sometimes misreads town!me, so not like i had a bop on her or anything

I feel kind meh on this read, especially since it kinda just has to do with stuff that would be readily observable to those "not in the know". I usaully see this sort of thing brought up later, but I mean, I guess we are kinda deep into this game

[MathBlade]

Like Skitter hasn’t had a “ping” she gets pings. It’s weird.

what does this mean?

and like, the rest of your post could be easily explained by different circumstances that precedent, especially for what i imagine happened in the mason pt, but

idk if i have it in me rn to argue

It’s a word tell.

Skitter gets “pings” when town.
I don’t see that here for her

ok i was gonna make fun of this cause it doesn't say anything about whether she gets "pings" as maf, but instead i decided to just go check some recent games

slaughter hour (maf): 0 pings, 350 posts
open 841 (town): 11 pings, 1073 posts
micro 1035 (town): 3 pings, 295 posts
mini 2254 (town): 1 ping, 77 posts
mini 2247 (maf): 1 ping, 130 hydra posts
mini normal 2224 (maf): 0 pings, 50 posts
open 779 (town): 7 pings, 305 posts

this game: 1 ping, 130 posts

so maybe she does actually get pings less as maf. but her pings per post (ppp) as town is like 1 per 100 posts and she's kinda on pace with that so idk if it's conclusive. but this was fun at least

ping ping ping ping

I have no idea how you all even come up with this stuff

I am on the spectrum so much as I wish I was NT I sometimes notice certain patterns. I have to care about pings for my job. So using the word ping stands out to me. Kinda like a little I look forward to it.

[Cape90]

IMO this is a policy lim and Math and Ari are most likely TvT.

excuse me what

[Cape90]

I am on the spectrum so much as I wish I was NT I sometimes notice certain patterns. I have to care about pings for my job. So using the word ping stands out to me. Kinda like a little I look forward to it.

I wish I could just like, do that

[Frogsterking]

Hey guys! I just worked on this questionnaire with my friend to help with scumhunting! It was built around the idea that mafia forums are a low scope low testability domain.

Here's the "low-scope low-testability scumhunting questionnaire:"

#1 How does the wave function evolve?
#2 Does wave function imply many worlds?
#3 Have we used all the available technology?
#4 Do we live in a simulation?

[Frogsterking]

Holy crap what the hell did I miss??

[Frogsterking]

I claim PR. You can all now feel free to get off of me.

Fire or Skitter should probably die today. I wouldn’t be opposed to Wu, but it feels like a waste right now.

Try it and you’ll catch my vig bullet in the face tonight. No, really. Make mu day.

I claim PR. You can all now feel free to get off of me.

Fire or Skitter should probably die today. I wouldn’t be opposed to Wu, but it feels like a waste right now.

What about Ari?

Ari is also scum, but a little less likely than the other two. Maybe she really did just make a bad push.

If anyone else wants to claim vigilante then feel free.

This is really townie UNVOTE: fua

[Frogsterking]

fua, what are your reads? doesn't have to be a list, just walk me through who's on your shitlist.

Shitlist is Skitter, Wu, Ari’s slot, Fire, Yeet, and possibly Tenebro for now. Subject to change later, and doesn’t include Eyes or Scorpious because they’re not worth pursuing at the moment.

I mean I've been wanting Yeet wagon all day. VOTE: Yeet

Eyes and Scorpius should be directed to complete my "low scope low testability scumhunting questionnaire." Those are the exact kind of slots that questionnaire was designed to help deal with.

[humaneatingmonkey]

hmm

[Frogsterking]

hmm

Are you tempted by a Yeet wagon?

[Frogsterking]

Yeet Yeet

[humaneatingmonkey]

why yeet and not wu

[Frogsterking]

why yeet and not wu

I thought wu was townier in the daystart trying to get conversation going, i feel like wu is being wagoned because of a temperamental difference as much as anything. Wu also adds to the lightness of the table which is important to sustain motivation for us going forward.

[Frogsterking]

Also I think the best evidence against Wu is the wagon collapse but that's circumstantial evidence. If you like wagon-resistant then check iut Yeet by the way too, Yeet is even more wagon resistance than Wu.

[humaneatingmonkey]

why is yeet the best vote here?

[Frogsterking]

why is yeet the best vote here?

They're not scumhunting

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: Fua

Frogsterking, I am ready to shake this tree with you.

This is the only townie thing they did IMO and my read was wrong here.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I am on Aristeia's side in this discussion, but I think humaneatingmonkey is possibly town anyway. I think this is TvT with Aristeia stronger town to me, to be clear

this does seem to be an odd post to make. how will you agree with ari's side of the discussion without thinking i'm an offending scum?

Perhaps I am able to ascertain why you'd think that. You may have a point.

VOTE: Dragons

Vote Wu or HEM.

Large games should consolidate D1 as fast as possible or we will end up at 100+ pages for D1 and that's just annoying later in the game.

THIS right here is why my sequence on Datisi was not wrong. We need to get things moving and start pushing in this kind of game since opinions will be far more fragmented. The probability that close to half the people in this game have the same top scumread is far lower than in a smaller game. That means we need to compromise and not always vote our top scumread at any given point. We don't want to dilly dally the whole day and scramble with no info at the end. I am saying this now so that we do not get caught in problems down the line. Just to put my money where my mouth is, I will VOTE: humaneatingmonkey, even though my last impression of him is light town (although I feel more nullish on him anyway).

Yes, Aristeia's townread on Datisi gives me some pause on him being scum. No, that doesn't mean I still don't want more pressure on him and to run him up. If people want to start voting Datisi again I will gladly switch back. And me pointing out that I didn't think many people at the time had a favorable opinion on him.

I haven't fully caught up (nor do I intend to in such a large game) but it seems things have changed. It is concerning that people are using my recent activity to discredit the townie vibes that I gave earlier. It is possible that this is scum motivated to keep the PoE wider, but it seems more likely to me that this is just poor activity logic.

this post seems wrong as well, also conflated and elaborate to cover the fact that it makes no real sense to vote me here. (vs say, Wu)

@Yeet

can you clarify if i'm misrepresenting anything

@Frogsterking

can you also elaborate why you think Yeet isn't scumhunting? because looking at his iso, he coulda fooled me