CONTROL - GAME OVER!

[The Three Bears]

i need a break. my brain is so fried

[Roden]

No coordinated quick hammer + Bears still putting in effort to solve is such a fucking relief tbh

[The Three Bears]

i have a random thought. what if the scum team is mastina + cephrir. that would be fucking wild. im also very fucking brainfried rn on every fucking level. so excuse me while i spew nonsense.

i feel like my braincells are dying.

[The Three Bears]

im also very annoyed. i wanted to power through shit today but i made it through 20 pages and want to go take a nap. ugh how do town powerhouses do this all the time. how the fuck do they do it ughhhh

[The Three Bears]

grrrrr ok whatever im gonna do other stuff and i'll be back hopefully ugh. anyways

[Roden]

can i get a list of claims also? Flavor also please.

So I was going to go dig up the previous list that got made a few weeks ago but uh...I can't find it. I feel like I'm losing my mind because I distinctly remember Mala making a list and somebody else updating it because they said they like making comprehensive lists, but I can't find it anymore, not even other people quoting it. Like it doesn't exist. What the fuck.

Like am I crazy and that just simply never happened, or didn't we have a claims list? Or is it there and I'm just blind?

[The Three Bears]

ok im back half an hour is up and im finished with what i was doing. still brainfried though so imma do other stuff for a bit

[Roden]

Toogaloo - Casper Darling
- 2 Shot HRA Researcher
- Non-lethal actions negated.
- LLD and Self. No shots remaining, has been molded?

Tictac - Benicoff TV
- Vanilla Ascetic

Roden - Polaris
- N/A

Mastina - Ashtray
- VT

Andante - Simon Arish [HRA'd]
- VT

StD - Moving Letters
- Fruit Vendor

Cephir - Merry Go Round Horse
- VT

Norwee - Zachariah Trench
- VT

Three Bears - Dylan Faden
- N/A

Malakittens -
- N/A

Fixed it up.

Nevermind, found it. If was Bears who made it, not Mala.

[mastina]

so far i have observer zero mech effect from mold. maybe u have some specific fear youd like to adress rather than general fearmongering?

There's no fearmongering, just facts.

Fact: there has been no player to claim to be the 3p. Given I'm the biggest defender of 3ps onsite, a benevolent 3p has literally no reason to not claim.
Fact: there cannot be 5 scum, we are proven to have only 4.
Fact: we know the dead scum have indicated that the mold was a scum ability. (Whether this is true is not a fact, but that scum did say it is a fact.)
Fact: by the game balance, the game is NOT balanced for only four scum. There MUST be some method of making the game less townsided, by the sheer lack of power the scum have versus what the town has when scum have only 4 members.

Inference: with no benevolent 3p, and with only 4 scum, and with the scum being underpowered, then mold is either scum or malevolent 3p.

This is not really something that can be debated. That inference has to be true.

So what does that inference get us?

Well if the mold is either malevolent 3p or scum, then the mold must, inherently, be

malevolent

.
Malevolence from mold, means that not doing anything against the mold? Is, inherently: a bad idea. We might not know

what

it does. But we know it must do

something

to make up for the lack of a fifth scum. That something must be bad for the town, because if the mold was not bad for the town, then we would need a fifth scum.

seem to remember u saying this of roden as well. ii'll look 4 it if it's relevant.

It is relevant, but not in the way you're trying to paint it as.
If the mold is 3p, then, sure, being molded does not make a player town.

However, we know that it was indicated in a TMI as a scum ability;
We know that the game is not balanced with only 4 groupscum;
We know that there is no reason for a benevolent 3p to not claim here.

Ergo, there is

at least

a 50% chance the mold is a scum ability, raised much much higher if you believe the dead town of the dead scum having TMI spewed it as such.

So, yes: being genuinely molded is a very strong indicator of being town.
With Bears Roden Cephrir all claiming it, not all of those claims are true.
But the true claims among them are far more likely to be town claims.
And Bears's claim is the most town of them.

More than that: you're trying to paint mold as the only reason for my townreads.

It's not.

Bears is town for so many reasons that every time I try to list the reasons Bears is town, I miss something because it's too damn hard to remember that many reasons.

Roden has fairly strong reasons to not be scum. (Now granted. I am still considering Roden as scum since if Cephrir isn't scum then Roden would be.)

I know myself to be town and I would be able to point out reasons why if need be.

So mold is not a free pass to being town as you are saying I am saying. It just supports the already existing reasons.

u neglectected to point out anything that was wrong w the post.

You saying "mold is not problematic" (when we know for a fact that it must be) and you saying "Bears being killed does no harm", is not the same as those things being true.

And given that I said both of those: yes, I did in fact point out what was wrong with your post.

[mastina]

metaing ceph really didnt help. i just find him scummy every game goddamnit

(That's because he's usually scum.)

No coordinated quick hammer + Bears still putting in effort to solve is such a fucking relief tbh

I mean Bears was never going to be scum here.

There's no possible team for a hammer to happen.

One of {tictac, Cephrir}

must

be scum.

I think I'm comfortable doing this.

VOTE: tictac

L-1

This will prove it even more.

[The Three Bears]

Man my crumb game is on fire right now.

my crumb game on fire too

-baby bear

You guys are crumbTRACKERing?

this is like the first time ever i tr norwee and everyone's sus on him smh

Last time this happened weren't you opposing scum factions??


Also don't burn the crumbs -.-;

-Pinkie Bear

Fenny's crumb game on FIRE

-baby bear

This joke has been enabled far too long.

~Mama

man i hope this vote isnt just end game here. i hope very much that this vote cracks the game open instead of just ending the whole game.

[The Three Bears]

I am still considering Roden as scum

I'm strongly considering this as well ngl.

[The Three Bears]

anyways i have to sat prep and im kind of in the mafia mood so i think i'll be back for content dump number two later tonight

[Roden]

A Tictac red flip kinda conftowns me but it's probably better to explain that in a final ELo

[The Three Bears]

except it really doesnt?

[Cephrir]

someone who is decent at flavor unpack what post 57 means. Cephrir can you explain why you made that post

It didn't mean anything. I had a vague idea that the game was about aliens so I made a goofy post pretending to be one because I felt like it. At this point the flavor of flipped scum proves that this was not TMI, or so the flavor experts seemed to think iirc.

[Cephrir]

uh fuck. metaing ceph really didnt help. i just find him scummy every game goddamnit

I am not surprised. ;_;

[mastina]

So there's no hammer on tictac with both Roden and Bears having posted while tictac is at L-1.

At this stage that means there's a minimum of 1 scum in {tictac, Cephrir, Norwee, (technically me)}.

Norwee is never scum here.

So that means that tictac + Cephrir or tictac + Roden are the only options. (It can't be Cephrir + Roden because if it were, Roden would've hammered.)

[The Three Bears]

OH wait hold up that was actually e-1 oml.

Ok so basically tic tac is scum with roden or scum is bussing. or both scum are on the wagon.

ugh i was thinking this would clear people but it doesnt even help? like no shit roden and i arent the team. Oh actually it means that roden and i cant be scum with anyone but tictac. ok ok honestly that is sexy as heck. Roden is probably town then?

[The Three Bears]

wait hold up. we are town.
so that means that tictac did not hammer because tictac isnt town? hold up. hold up.
if tictac is town, that means scum is all on wagon.
if tictac is scum, it is with roden.

INTERESTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Three Bears]

logic is failing me today but i think that is correct. tictac is either scum with roden or town with both scum on him.

[The Three Bears]

so basically its either roden + tictac
OR
its
mastina + cephrir
OR
mastina + norwee
OR
cephrir + mastina

Except norwee is town

So its either tictac + Roden
OR
mastina + cephrir

OOOOOOOOOOH

[The Three Bears]

Norwee come over here. Let's huddle and talk.

[The Three Bears]

actually we'll talk tomorrow im sleepy.
either way, we all agree the team is not us and tictac, as a game yeah?
if that option is off the table
scum team is either roden + tictac
or 2 out of [Norwee, mastina, cephrir]

This game is halfway solved ey

[The Three Bears]

oh wait wait technically tictacs buddy could be bussing. hold up im confused again