CONTROL - GAME OVER!

[The Three Bears]

so if mastina was scum with tictac for example, then that means two town are on there and two town are off.

UGH we cant poe here UGH. damnit. it doesnt work. im sad.

[The Three Bears]

ok it just means tictac cannot be town with roden scum.
tictac can be town with roden town
they can be scum buddies
tictac can be scum with roden town

but tictac cannot be town with roden scum

[The Three Bears]

ok nvm my brain is just dead. i'll be back tomorrow @_@

[Cephrir]

I think that tictac's partner probably realized a long time ago he was never surviving this day and played with that in mind

[Cephrir]

If I were a betting man, I might wager that they're doing theater today (because it's mastina)

[mastina]

If I were a betting man, I might wager that they're doing theater today (because it's mastina)

I've been scumreading tictac since like D5, and had tictac as at null even before that.

That said:

I think that tictac's partner probably realized a long time ago he was never surviving this day and played with that in mind

Given there's still a very high chance you're tictac's scumbuddy?

What you said here is probably true!

...And applicable to you.

When did

you

begin to push tictac, hmm, Ceph?

I'm pretty damn sure I've pushed tictac as scum for much much longer than you have this game.

[Cephrir]

Ooh, testy. Walls closing in?

[Roden]

Mastina realistically could only be scum with Norwee, which has been disproven by the current votes.

[Cephrir]

There's such a world of possibilities if only you would embrace it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee come over here. Let's huddle and talk.

What you wanna talk about?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel like whoever is scum in Mastina/Ceph is already TMI’ing that the true battle will be between them tommorow.
Tictac is just the fall guy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And i do trust Mastina more, but i’ll give the game a fair shake and not just instavote tommorow. But making my bias clear prematurely is better for analyzing nightkills.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ceph did for example vote Tictac earlier yesterday, but that could have been planned bussing too.

[Cephrir]

It has always been destined to turn out that way, it seems.

Granted, it could be you, but I think you've probably already won if so. And also admitting this is making my post less dramatic.

Unfortunately either way scum were able to remove andante and curated an endgame where at least one town player who has a desperate urge to murder me (and likely two, I'd bet roden will be leaving us tonight) will be alive tomorrow. So it's not looking great.

[tictac]

ok. both scum in (ceph, norw, mastina)
scum-mastina voting there is probs cause me scumreading her is better than me focusing on (ceph,norw) so probs more vulnerable of those is her partner.
i wanna say town mastina waits a bit more before voting to see the effect of the 2 votes first.
@ mastina it's meaningless to say mold is malevolent if u can't give an example of

how

in practice it could be malevolent.

[tictac]

VOTE: mastina
(mastina,ceph) is my current answer w mastina the more certain one.

[mastina]

i wanna say town mastina waits a bit more before voting to see the effect of the 2 votes first.

I did. I waited like 24 hours or so. I

did

debate not voting there; I

did

debate waiting longer. But ultimately, I felt that I had already waited long enough, and that there was nothing to be gained by waiting.

@ mastina it's meaningless to say mold is malevolent if u can't give an example of

how

in practice it could be malevolent.

"If you eliminate the impossible, then whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth" springs to mind.

We know the mold must be malevolent because of the lack of 3p claim and game balance demanding it be so, since a benevolent 3p for balance purposes is considered basically town by any competent game designer.

What the malevolence does, frankly, doesn't matter. It's malevolent. That's all we need to know to know that the mold is bad.

And if you weren't desperately trying to misrep me, you'd find that I have in fact given examples of how the mold could be malevolent.

Mold could be an arsonist like action, able to kill everyone.
Mold could be a vanillaizer, disabling the role of the player infected.
Mold could be a method of proxy-killing, by directing the kill to be done by an infected individual.
Mold could be a roleblock of the players infected.
Mold could be a redirector, able to redirect the actions of the players infected.
Mold could serve as a rolecop, giving information.
Mold could cause everyone except mold to lose.

This is far from a complete list of what the mold

could

do.

But it doesn't matter what it could do.
What matters is the knowledge that

no matter what it does

, it by necessity MUST be malevolent.

It is malevolent from a flavor perspective.
It is malevolent because a benevolent 3p would have zero reason to not have claimed by now.
It is malevolent because game balance demands it, given only 4 groupscum and non-malevolent mold not accommodating for that.

So no matter what bad effect the mold has, it is a bad effect. Period. So your continued insistence on ignoring the dangers of the mold is in fact: scummy as fuck.

[mastina]

(Also my L-1 got more info I feel than me not voting. It spurned Bears into high gear, confirmed what I knew, confirmed scum weren't waiting to hammer, etc.)

[tictac]

Mold could be an arsonist like action, able to kill everyone.

i which case nothing we do today will matter. game would be called already.

Mold could be a vanillaizer, disabling the role of the player infected.
Mold could be a method of proxy-killing, by directing the kill to be done by an infected individual.
Mold could be a roleblock of the players infected.
Mold could be a redirector, able to redirect the actions of the players infected.
Mold could serve as a rolecop, giving information.

all of these translate to "no effect" in current situation.

Mold could cause everyone except mold to lose.

3p power. i agree that balance makes this very unlikely.

so yea. after eliminating the impossible. "no yeet" is the best answer even if "mold is supes weak" is improbable.

[tictac]

i which case nothing we do today will matter. game would be called already.

unless u seriously saying i randed an arsonist equivalent and then claimes ascetic in my first post.

[tictac]

i which case nothing we do today will matter. game would be called already.

unless u seriously saying i randed an arsonist equivalent and then claimes ascetic in my first post.

and even this assumes i gamethrew for lols and didn't immolate last night.

[tictac]

am i a super powerful scum-pr or someone who is getting bussed into oblivion.
cause i'm kinda getting mixed messages here.

[tictac]

when was the "dead thread slip" anyways?
perchance the night after mastina claimed molded?

[The Three Bears]

Wait no if roden is scum, he has to be scum with tictac. or he's town.
OK i think that logic makes sense.
Like if roden were scum with any of [norwee, massy, ceph], tictac would be dead. so roden has to be scum with tictac or town.

ok ok what are the chances honestly. but also roden saying tictac red makes him green is a little fishy in hindsight. grrrr i hate my paranoia. anyways roden do not vote right now. no one vote. im uneasy about mastina votes but it wont hammer over because scum team is not roden/norwee. roden is only ever scum with tictac.

[The Three Bears]

Mastina realistically could only be scum with Norwee, which has been disproven by the current votes.

explain why massy can only be scum with norwee. and how its disproven