Newbie 2090 (Game Over)

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[TTTT]

furtive are you enjoying reading Newbie 1925?

[furtiveglance]

furtive are you enjoying reading Newbie 1925?

I liked the OMGUS on Clarity. It was a weird read on you by them. Interestingly enough you didn't react the same way when I sussed you in 2088, you just held me at arms length. I'm not encouraging you to OMGUS all suspicion of you though!

As for the game itself, is it just me or does mafia often throw their vote away early in f3?

[TTTT]

furtive
still nothing to say about this game?

[TTTT]

like you seem to be saying you have no plans to do anything day1 except defend whoever is being wagoned
yet you just read a game where in day1 I prevented an elim on a town player that many were SRing while also leading the elim on mafia
you can scumhunt and TR others at the same time

[furtiveglance]

No one has really done anything alignment indicative yet. I can't help you right now

[furtiveglance]

Scratch that, I will give some very primitive reads, on order of how town I think a player is.

My biggest townread is Mr Turtle. They seem quite frank in a way that mafia might not be on day 1.

Also townlean on TTTT, seem to be trying to advance the game.

I will stay neutral on Somnus, they have said nothing about the game so far.

Lukewarm has said eww twice and nothing else, so no read.

Marci has not arrived yet - no read.

Alianna had a strange interaction with TTTT at the start, I will say no read because it wasn't really game related but could be nervous mafia or nervous town. Either way nervous

PimpPestPlay has seemed a bit blendy so far, almost like they want to be ignored in some posts. I will need more substance from them, for now it is a tentative scumlean.

BigTerp asked if I was cop in one of their first posts, which seems strange. Did they really not know I was joking about being a Rolecop? And do they really not know what the difference between Cop and Rolecop is alignment-wise? They insist on having no confusion but have given me some confusion so far. It could be that they aren't a native speaker/are new to this website/setup?
For now it's a tentative scumlean.

[TTTT]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts
my only question for now is what specifically makes you townlean me?
we just finished a game where you were town and I was mafia
so what is different here in my early play?

[TTTT]

it really bothers me that you aren't paranoid I'm scum again

[furtiveglance]

it really bothers me that you aren't paranoid I'm scum again

You're acting like I townread you in that game. I didn't, remember, you gave me bad vibes. Here you seem a bit more serious/gamesolving.

[Somnus]

Sorry, hit submit with my fat thumb before I finished my thoughts.

I've got furtiveglance as a town lean, but am a bit confused with post #92. Are you claiming Town Cop there?

Somnus leaning scum is just an early gut feel.

VOTE: SOMNUS

In 92 I was joking about the tags under our usernames.

Gotcha. Although joking like that can create confusion. Who likes confusion in a game or Mafia? SCUM!! I've still got you as a town read though, for now.

Speaking of confusion, the first page or two had a lot of talk about a previous game or 2. Seems like a few of you were already in a game together, which is fine. But talk that like, again, is prime for causing confusion. Further cements my thoughts (scum lean) on Somnus and raises my eyebrow towards TTTT.

Welcome but like...this is such a weird post. I pointed out in my first post that there were a lot of players from newbie 2088 in this game. Then furtive and TTTT very briefly asked about my other game I played on here in which I was scum. I guess in your world I should have just ignored their questions?

[Somnus]

Sorry, hit submit with my fat thumb before I finished my thoughts.

I've got furtiveglance as a town lean, but am a bit confused with post #92. Are you claiming Town Cop there?

Somnus leaning scum is just an early gut feel.

VOTE: SOMNUS

He made a joke about being mafia role cop and you’re asking if he hard claimed town cop? Am I reading this correctly? I’m having a hard time believing you legit misread things in your catch-up this much.

[TTTT]

You're acting like I townread you in that game. I didn't, remember, you gave me bad vibes. Here you seem a bit more serious/gamesolving.

nope, your reads in that game are irrelevant
I'm having a hard time seeing how you see enough difference already to townlean me

[TTTT]

Somnus
he also gave Furtive a townlean
which made no sense if talking about old games is scummy

[Somnus]

Yeah. Like I’m cool with the vote on me, but the logic used behind it, as well as the immediate town-read on furtive (not a shot at furtive, btw) for the exact same thing is absurd. Not to mention thinking that furtive hard-claimed town cop less than 24 hours into the game after jokingly stating he was mafia role cop. Enough about power roles. This is a bad idea.

[Somnus]

Hoping to hear more from lukewarm, Mr Turtle, and Pimpest (as well as for marcistar to join) so I have a complete roster to make initial reads of.

[furtiveglance]

You're acting like I townread you in that game. I didn't, remember, you gave me bad vibes. Here you seem a bit more serious/gamesolving.

nope, your reads in that game are irrelevant
I'm having a hard time seeing how you see enough difference already to townlean me

Last game you townread a lot of people. This game you seem more investigative/paranoid/scumhunting.

[Alianna]

Yeah. Like I’m cool with the vote on me, but the logic used behind it, as well as the immediate town-read on furtive (not a shot at furtive, btw) for the exact same thing is absurd. Not to mention thinking that furtive hard-claimed town cop less than 24 hours into the game after jokingly stating he was mafia role cop. Enough about power roles. This is a bad idea.

I am also suspicious of BigTerp for those posts.

[Alianna]

VOTE: BigTerp

[BigTerp]

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BigTerp asked if I was cop in one of their first posts, which seems strange. Did they really not know I was joking about being a Rolecop? And do they really not know what the difference between Cop and Rolecop is alignment-wise? They insist on having no confusion but have given me some confusion so far. It could be that they aren't a native speaker/are new to this website/setup?
For now it's a tentative scumlean.

I did not know you were joking. Hence my response about things like that, as well as discussion of previous games, causing confusion and mucking the waters of this game.

No, I'm unaware of the difference in the designation between Cop and Rolecop. I haven't played a game here, nor anywhere, in nearly 10 years. Felt it was appropriate to address what could've been someone claiming Cop SUPER early for no reason. Nothing more.

[Alianna]

If I'm not mistaken, the difference is that a cop investigates people to learn their alignment (pro-town or anti-town) but not their role, while a rolecop learns their role (doctor, tracker, etc.,) but not their alignment (so VT and Goon both give a Vanilla result).

[BigTerp]

Sorry, hit submit with my fat thumb before I finished my thoughts.

I've got furtiveglance as a town lean, but am a bit confused with post #92. Are you claiming Town Cop there?

Somnus leaning scum is just an early gut feel.

VOTE: SOMNUS

In 92 I was joking about the tags under our usernames.

Gotcha. Although joking like that can create confusion. Who likes confusion in a game or Mafia? SCUM!! I've still got you as a town read though, for now.

Speaking of confusion, the first page or two had a lot of talk about a previous game or 2. Seems like a few of you were already in a game together, which is fine. But talk that like, again, is prime for causing confusion. Further cements my thoughts (scum lean) on Somnus and raises my eyebrow towards TTTT.

Welcome but like...this is such a weird post. I pointed out in my first post that there were a lot of players from newbie 2088 in this game. Then furtive and TTTT very briefly asked about my other game I played on here in which I was scum. I guess in your world I should have just ignored their questions?

Yeah, I addressed that someone mentioned there where a few players in this game from a previous game. I felt it was unnecessary for discussion of previous games in a new game. Causes nothing but confusion, IMO. Which might be a good tactic for mafia to muddy the waters. Nothing about previous games has anything to do with this current game, again IMO.

[Somnus]

Hard hard disagree. Stuff like that (in the first two pages, no less when like 4 people out of 9 were here) helps sort people’s experience/play style. That’s the opposite of confusion. You scum-read me for it but gave the two players asking questions about previous games a null and/or townread for it.

[Somnus]

If anything, I would have liked to hear MORE about people’s experiences as both town and scum.

[Somnus]

If I'm not mistaken, the difference is that a cop investigates people to learn their alignment (pro-town or anti-town) but not their role, while a rolecop learns their role (doctor, tracker, etc.,) but not their alignment (so VT and Goon both give a Vanilla result).

This is correct.