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[Eyes without a face]

Ot's ironic ypu should ask after complaining about me not reading lol

check 586 if you will

[Nero Cain]

Said something on p24

wants me to remember on p98

Also, VP being one of your top town reads b/c he explained his reads 40 pages ago is ummm...bad. Firstly, scum being able to type words is very much a thing and secondly, there's like no progression.

[Nero Cain]

Why aren't u voting Wu?

[Eyes without a face]

Why aren't u voting Wu?

If that becomes a thing I would.. maybe. I just didn't like frog's distraction bringing in quantum mechanics and waves into the equation so to speak

[fireisredsir]

Spoiler: @Fire, Nero & Scorpious:

You three should know what I'm asking here without me having to explain it any further because of the rules. You do remember what I once said about replacements, Yes? However I had more reason to it back then than I do right now because I knew the player preferences while I don't either replaced players here. They also played for a while before replacing out so it's not exactly the same.
My question: Does any of you have any solid background on either? Can anything be discerned from the replacements or should I think of them both as being absolutely NAI?[/spoiler]

nordom nobody knows, ari some people know but i don't. i would assume NAI tho

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Wu

Still keeping my be quiet Saturday promise
Kicking ass in Trails of Cold Steel

[Frogsterking]

Hey guys! I just worked on this questionnaire with my friend to help with scumhunting! It was built around the idea that mafia forums are a low scope low testability domain.

Here's the "low-scope low-testability scumhunting questionnaire:"

#1 How does the wave function evolve?
#2 Does wave function imply many worlds?
#3 Have we used all the available technology?
#4 Do we live in a simulation?

Scorpius please answer these

VOTE: Frogsterking

This is definitely counterproductive

This is looking for reasons to read a player rather than reading them.

Holy crap what the hell did I miss??

Judging by your post just above this one I'd guess you missed the effect of some blackhole at the other end of the universe or something. (and crap it is my friend. Crap it is indeed)

Is there any reason you're unable to answer the questionnaire, Eye? Question 3 has been revised:
"With sufficient technology can all low scope low testability questions be made testable?"

Yes there is and it's quite simple. It's this shit that I play mafia to get away from. Mafia is a less tense activity that I do for fun to try and rest my brain from that precise type of science (and no I am not a student per say but I am interested in trying to understand these kinds of theories)

Hmm. An expected response is to respond warmly to a topic which is valued and familiar. I agree you have an explanation and i disagree it's "quite simple." In fact it seems like you have a really complex pre-existing relationship with this topic I introduced.

Why aren't u voting Wu?

If that becomes a thing I would.. maybe. I just didn't like frog's distraction bringing in quantum mechanics and waves into the equation so to speak

Or you're pretending to be angry so you don't have to scumhunt

[fua]

VOTE: Wu

Wolfy pop-ins and lurking out of pressure. Seems good to me.

[Cape90]

I think that 2101 is an odd thing to comment on about the hood that they are not even a part of. Maybe they are trying to cool the discussion of this or just flat out know all 4 of us are town. Either way it feels like pretty empty speculation.

VOTE: GeneralWu

Latest postings from Eyes has been decent. I kinda like the double down on a... very meh post admittedly in 2427. I also kinda like 2404. I think General is a stronger vote then this and definitely Yeet

[Cape90]

Also, fireisredsir defended me for a time, right?

this also looks like a WIFOM attempt at a frame job if General flips red

[Cape90]

I think you are scum as people are defending you by attacking me versus explaining why they TR you.

You know, I think this might mean that some people defending me are scum.

There is also this which is pretty similar and is a bit generalized too

[Mizzytastic]

The $200 is paid only once each time around the board. However, if a player passing GO on the throw of the dice lands 2 spaces beyond it on Community Chest, or 7 spaces beyond it on Chance, and draws the "Advance to GO" card, they collect $200 for passing GO the first time, and another $200 for Advancing to it the second time by the instructions on the card.

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Official Votecount 1.18

GeneralWu (10): tenebrousluminary, fireisredsir, Yeet, Save The Dragons, VP Baltar, humaneatingmonkey, Datisi, MathBlade, fua, Cape90

[E-0!]

fua (2): skitter30, April Ludgate
Yeet (1): Frogsterking
Nero Cain(1): Nero Cain
Frogsterking (1): Eyes without a face

Not Voting (4): Scorpious, DeasVail, MalcolmTucker, GeneralWu

With 19 players alive, an elimination has been achieved.

click here for joined mod iso.

[Mizzytastic]

GeneralWu

,

Vanilla Townie

, has been eliminated.

GeneralWu

You are a

Vanilla Townie

Each day you may talk in the game thread and vote on who to eliminate.

You win when all threats to the town are dead, and at least 1 town aligned player is alive.

The game thread is here, please confirm your role and alignment via pm.

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Night 1

Night 1 has begun. It will end in (expired on 2022-03-08 16:00:00). You have until then to submit any night actions you want to take.

If all living players pm me asking for a fast night I will resolve the night as soon as possible.

(2/18 for fast night)

[Mizzytastic]

humaneatingmonkey

has been found dead. The monkey was a

Town Mason

humaneatingmonkey

You are a

Town Mason

You are a member of a

Masonry

. All members of the Masonry are confirmed to you to be

Town

. You share a private thread with the other members, which you can talk in at any time, including the day.

Each day you may talk in the game thread and vote on who to eliminate.

You win when all threats to the town are dead, and at least 1 town aligned player is alive.

The game thread is here and your Masonry thread is REDACTED, please confirm your role and alignment via pm.

[Mizzytastic]

Day 2

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This day's flavour will be focused on life and death, that is how to make groups that cannot be captured even if they are surrounded and how to capture groups in a way that stops them protecting themselves.

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Official Votecount 2.0

Anyone (0): Nobody

Not Voting (17): Frogsterking, Scorpious, Save The Dragons, Nero Cain, DeasVail, MalcolmTucker, Datisi, fua, skitter30, fireisredsir, Eyes without a face, VP Baltar, April Ludgate, tenebrousluminary, Cape90, MathBlade, Yeet

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2022-03-16 09:20:00).

[fua]

Unless there’s a doctor then mafia has a role blocker.

[fua]

Also the four person hood is guaranteed to have a scum in it. 6 townies in hoods is wild.

[fua]

Actually, it’s more likely maf has a roleblocker. I don’t know why doc would heal a claimed PR.

[fua]

Wouldn’t*.

[DeasVail]

Catching up and I feel lost and confused. I don't like this feeling!

[MalcolmTucker]

Apologies for inactivity before the elimination, should be around a bit more now. Done my catching up in the past couple of days.

[Datisi]

Unless there’s a doctor then mafia has a role blocker.

??? who did you attempt to shoot?

[MalcolmTucker]

@Yeet can you explain your discrepancies between posts 1214, 1629, 2002 and post 2218.

Initially you push Fua over a pretty consistent period of time, and yet after their vigilante reveal you then indicate you got a vibe they may have had their given role? If that was the case, why were you pushing Fua as potential mafia so consistently?

I'm really not sure what to make of your slot so far in general. Early on you struck me as very town - you were boldly making sometimes baseless accusations without any care as to how you came across but that helped progress the game. But it's notable that your playing style has since changed a fair bit, you seem a bit more tentative now when it comes to making outright accusations despite us having more to go on. Your play feels deliberately more measured and careful, but I'm not sure why that is...after all you didn't necessarily come under a lot of heat for your early posts.

[MalcolmTucker]

I was heavily critical of them in turn one but tenebros is coming across as more town for me as the game goes on. Post 1460 struck me as a genuine bit of townie frustration. Much as plenty of players got annoyed at MathBlade after their entry into the game, this didn't particularly feel like the type of post a mafia team member would make toward pretty much the first fully confirmed town player of the game.

I think some players have since used the heavy post-load and the fast-moving pace of the game to disguise actually giving reads or to also appear like frustrated townies (primarily Scorpious), but tenebros felt kinda genuine to me with this, was a bit of a gut-feeling at the time but a few of their posts since have felt more town too.

[MalcolmTucker]

VP's continual theory that Nero/Wu may have been mafia together and that Nero was potentially backing away from Wu because they were teammates really made no sense at all to me but they notably kept pushing it, in posts 1339, 1344, 1939 and 2128 to give just some examples.

It just doesn't chime. Nero was basically the first player in the game to mention that Wu was not contributing a heavy amount and that they were coming across as suspicious for it. I don't see why there'd be any benefit to throwing your teammate into the mix like that early in the game...in retrospect without that post it's quite possible there'd have never been a bandwagon against Wu at all in turn one.

I dunno, the way VP just kept pushing this felt strange, as if it was potential mafia who'd come up with a theory to push Nero/Wu and who felt like they couldn't drop it without seeming suspicious for doing so.