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[Frogsterking]

holy crap i thought i posted more in this game 22 posts wow i'm probably scum

On the bright side at least you're winning the 1v1 with April.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

[Scorpious]

without fully sticking to it, and there's a case to be made this is what happened

I don't know why I have to "stick" with a read. There was evidence presented that he might have been more in his town meta than his scum meta and that certainly influenced me.

I personally prefer someone to be open to changing reads then stuck with one,it elminates bias.

[Yeet]

HEM is alive?

[Yeet]

Cape your hammer is not NAI because there is obvious scum motivation to do it.

If anything because it has hyperlinks it was not a planned hammer so lean more town

Hyperlinks?

[Cape90]

Cape your hammer is not NAI because there is obvious scum motivation to do it.

You... realize you were the counterwagon don't you.

If you think about that and you are town, now my scum motivation becomes

to end the day quicker.

By whatever Wu was doing, I really doubt the threadstate would have changed that much within those 2 days or whatever it was that we had left.

I apologize that you are either scum or not using your brain. Now anyway scum sheeped you, what do you do?

[Yeet]

re: the hood - i have at least a light town read on everyone, is it possible it's pure? i'll reassess and see if i change my mind.

Yeah maybe, although cape is a ??? For me rn

[Cape90]

Cape your hammer is not NAI because there is obvious scum motivation to do it.

If anything because it has hyperlinks it was not a planned hammer so lean more town

what are you even talking about

[Yeet]

I had 3 votes on me at the time. That’s hardly a counterwagon

[VP Baltar]

Uh oh, now it just sounds like you have an agenda neighbor!

You made that giant post after I called you out and you don't actually vote me?

Who you calling a coward?

[tenebrousluminary]

I think tene Scorpious and April should give reads and do things

Huh? Me? I'm playing.

[Yeet]

You know an apology for “miscounting” would go a long way. You haven’t shown any regret for quick hammering.

[Scorpious]

This game is really just that easy

Well then the other one better be scum since its so easy .. Cause I ain't

VOTE: VP Baltar

[Cape90]

VOTE: VP Baltar

Alright cool that's the response I needed to make sure I am not pulling a Datisi.

[VP Baltar]

For the record, I made a post last night about 30 mins before deadline expired calling out Cape because I didn't want my actual thoughts on the game to go to the grave with me. I figured if I ate a vig shot or something, at least someone who is town could carry on my concerns today.

Judging by the size and extent of that post Cape just made, it seems clear to me he started writing that response about at that point knowing I was going to come out of the gates at him today. The fact there is no vote there on a giant wall case makes no sense.

[Frogsterking]

without fully sticking to it, and there's a case to be made this is what happened

I don't know why I have to "stick" with a read. There was evidence presented that he might have been more in his town meta than his scum meta and that certainly influenced me.

I personally prefer someone to be open to changing reads then stuck with one,it elminates bias.

Yes and for many players their second choice will be more likely to be correct á la the Monty Hall problem.

[Cape90]

Uh oh, now it just sounds like you have an agenda neighbor!

You made that giant post after I called you out and you don't actually vote me?

Who you calling a coward?

This game is really just that easy

Well then the other one better be scum since its so easy .. Cause I ain't

VOTE: VP Baltar

as a word of advice

this only confirms the fact to me that one of you is mafia and you are probably not both town

[Yeet]

I feel that I am being very transparent and open with my thought process and I have answered anxieties about me adequately.

I'm reading through teet right now. I think this post encapsulates why I am not seeing yeet as scummy. They seem genuine.

Cape did you read on me flip from eod1? I guess mine on you sorta did too, lol.

[tenebrousluminary]

Uh oh, now it just sounds like you have an agenda neighbor!

You made that giant post after I called you out and you don't actually vote me?

Who you calling a coward?

For the record, I made a post last night about 30 mins before deadline expired calling out Cape because I didn't want my actual thoughts on the game to go to the grave with me. I figured if I ate a vig shot or something, at least someone who is town could carry on my concerns today.

Judging by the size and extent of that post Cape just made, it seems clear to me he started writing that response about at that point knowing I was going to come out of the gates at him today. The fact there is no vote there on a giant wall case makes no sense.

Did you plan on responding to its substance, or just shading Cape for writing it?

[fireisredsir]

not gonna talk too much about fua atm since the slot is not currently in the game, but if i were a vig and my kill didn't go through my first thought would be that someone in my poe got scared. is that a fair thing to think, yay or nay? would scum roleblock a vig kill that was likely going to hit town just to cause confusion and avoid confirming the vig?

Got scared? I don't know what that means.

For your second question, how would scum know who fua was going to target?

ok so my thought process is, if we assume fua is town for now, most likely scenario is that they got roleblocked. they made it pretty clear who they were sus of in 2063, 2070, and 2124, all near end of day. that list includes wu(dead), skitter, me, ari's slot. on a lower level, there's also yeet, tenebro, eyes, and scorp. now given that info my questions are:

1) would fua most likely shoot among that list? i don't see why they wouldn't
2) if that list is all town, would maf team still roleblock them? not sure on this one, that's why I'm asking the crowd
3) as vig, who got blocked, would you think that maf blocked you because someone in your list of targets was maf? also not sure on this, but i would lean yes

like me personally if im vig and i get blocked i come hard out the gates thinking this confirms that who i shot knew it was coming and blocked me and so they're even more scummy than before. that might be the wrong way to think (in this case it is cause im town lol) and maybe not everyone thinks that way but i just thought it was weird to not even see a glimmer of that in fua's posts at the start of today.

why that's relevant to her alignment is that maf who fakeclaimed vig is only really thinking in the dimension of if their claim is verifiable or not, they don't care about who they were aiming for, because they weren't ever going to actually shoot. town has a lot more to think about because they actually tried to shoot someone and failed. like that's a kinda strong visceral town thing, no? to think you're about to solo kill a scum and you're spam refreshing to see if you were right or not and then ahh it doesn't even go through? but fua didn't focus at all on thinking about who they shot, their thought process was all about whether their claim was verified or not. that response feels more scummy to me because i think it forgets what town should be feeling in that moment

[Yeet]

Uh oh, now it just sounds like you have an agenda neighbor!

You made that giant post after I called you out and you don't actually vote me?

Who you calling a coward?

This game is really just that easy

Well then the other one better be scum since its so easy .. Cause I ain't

VOTE: VP Baltar

as a word of advice

this only confirms the fact to me that one of you is mafia and you are probably not both town

Why cant they both be town?

[Cape90]

For the record, I made a post last night about 30 mins before deadline expired calling out Cape because I didn't want my actual thoughts on the game to go to the grave with me. I figured if I ate a vig shot or something, at least someone who is town could carry on my concerns today.

Judging by the size and extent of that post Cape just made, it seems clear to me he started writing that response about at that point knowing I was going to come out of the gates at him today. The fact there is no vote there on a giant wall case makes no sense.

I mean, if you think that you clearly aren't looking at my fucking wall post

[tenebrousluminary]

I think scum would block a vig even if they knew they would shoot town. They aren't going to shoot top town, they're going to shoot people you want to mislim later anyway, so preventing them from becoming confirmed seems strong.

[Nero Cain]

like, does VP actually think my reads never change or someting?

[fireisredsir]

holy crap i thought i posted more in this game 22 posts wow i'm probably scum

eh probably not

[VP Baltar]

Did you plan on responding to its substance, or just shading Cape for writing it?

I'll look at it in depth and with good faith when I have a moment (which is not now). That being said, I am extremely skeptical a person puts that much effort into a giant post and doesn't vote. It's a failure of being timid as scum.

How long do you think it took Cape to write that and link all those posts? Two hours? You think he just did that on the fly in response to the most I made this morning just a couple hours ago? I'd say that's very unlikely.

What is more likely is he started last night when I posted in our hood and has been honing it with his scum buddies to reply today. He wasn't expecting me to come after him, probably content to let me and Nero fight it out if Nero is town. Cape knew he was going to have to respond with an overwhelming show of effort to sway town to his side. That's fine. I'll let the record speak for itself when I quote you Cape's viewpoint on Wu yesterday. Standby.