Newbie 2089 | Endgame

[KittyTacky]

hey kitty how's it going

I'm on my phone, will respond to the ISO in a bit when I get to my computer.

[KittyTacky]

Responses in bold.

Kitty ISO

Spoiler:

It's kind of interesting to note how Kitty and Ofmercia's solving styles are. They hard-scumread each other early on for practically the same reasons (in the way that ofmercia immediately goes after Kitty after 1 post he made, along with Kitty going after ofmercia for the 1 post they made after that). Kitty did vote Ofmercia before that, which I read as a town ACTION. I don't really like their reasoning for it (I'm fine with the "Progo push seems opportunisitic reasoning, although I don't know what to make of his constant attacking afterwards when ofmercia was doing the same thing.) when he says later on that it's a "70% chance that it hits scum".

No, scum pushing town know they are wrong (aside from multiball/SK/third party but that's not a newbie game thing). That I feel can subconsciously affect play, especially after a strange play like that.

Next post

*pushing non-scum

I don't get why they needed to correct themselves here though since there's no third parties in this game, and town=non-scum regardless of how you put it.

Newbies here might move on to playing games with third parties and that's why I mentioned it.

Spoiler:

Okay so walk me through your read progression on Kitty's slot.

Part of my issue here is I look at Kitty's slot and noted that they have been pushing ofmercia for the entire day now and barring out most everything else. Part of the problem is I'm stuck on whether or not scum would end up tunneling this hard or not. I keep leaning on the latter (scum doesn't tunnel and is more likely town) right now but I see posts for the former (scum can absolutely play aggressively early, and some opportunism with how easy of a push ofmercia would be).

EBWOP.

It's getting extremely late so I'll respond later.

My other SR redeemed themself and I didn't have any more, Auto is steadily becoming scummier the more I read about him though. Tist's case on AD is also convincing. I might vote AD.

Suddenly Ofmercia's town, which is weird considering there's not really a follow-up for it. How does Auto provide "scum equity" to you (if it's based off of what I said still give your reasoning for it)?

I re-evaluated ofmercia, and Auto was just super scummy to me that I said scum equity off a hunch.

Strange is also town to him because he's simply "an unmotivated townie".

That's the vibe I got from Strange.

Kitty is their any other reasoning you have besides me pushing a townread of yours that locks me down as scum? There's no extensive reasoning for it besides "she's a townie"

You aren't really locked down as scum but you're the best read I have given the game is low-info. It's just... the vibe I got from your posts kinda seems scum-motivated.

[KittyTacky]

And I ruined the formatting. Great.

[KittyTacky]

And I ruined the formatting. Great.

EBWOP: nevermind it was there before.

I think flipping Progo wins for Town.

Can you explain your read on him? I see zero scum motivation in him whatsoever even if I can get behind the activity read on Strange. For the record I just think you are wrong town. But I literally can't see how Progo is scummy.

[fwogcarf]

I had completely forgotten about that whole thing in Day 1. You're right, Frog + fwog is unthinkable.

You assumed that we were the team without fact checking first?

[fwogcarf]

yeah my bad for ruining that i have no idea how the spoiler feature works on this site

[fwogcarf]

1. I mean, ok? That doesn't mean anything to THIS game.
2. Scum equity off of a hunch isn't that great of an answer imo. Any evidence you can provide why you thought that at the time? (Or if you still think it now that also works.)
3. Vibe read. I accept that now, but if Strange doesn't die today then it'll need more fleshing out
4. Hmmmm, ok. Any posts in particular?

[fwogcarf]

given that EoD is literally tomorrow morning i'll try to be there

[ofmercia]

I guess no elimination it is. Since everyone stalling.

[fwogcarf]

Progo if you're town you need to do a better job explaining your read on Kitty because if it's a genuine read you didn't make it look like one.

I'm sorry I didn't explain my reads (or talk much at all) during Day 1. Unfortunately, Day 2 is ending and I don't have time to go through the games explaining my reads.

So for now, how about we just compromise on Strange, since we are both suspicious of them?

UNVOTE: fwogcarf
VOTE: StrangeMatter

I do find it a little odd that Progo moves his vote to Strange like this

And then moves back to me immediately to give Strange breathing room.

And then goes back to Strange.

I don't think that's enough for me to be completely convinced of him quite yet but if he doesn't die today it's something worth noting

[fwogcarf]

I guess no elimination it is. Since everyone stalling.

Isn't majority a thing?

[fwogcarf]

Oh shoot it's not

Ah I didn't read that part in the OP

[ofmercia]

I guess no elimination it is. Since everyone stalling.

Isn't majority a thing?

Apparently not, because then why'd you not follow the two players who saved your elimination and start a new strange wagon?

[fwogcarf]

strange 3
progo 2
fwog 1

i think this is current vc

[fwogcarf]

I guess no elimination it is. Since everyone stalling.

Isn't majority a thing?

Apparently not, because then why'd you not follow the two players who saved your elimination and start a new strange wagon?

would rather follow my own reads than sheep

[ofmercia]

I guess no elimination it is. Since everyone stalling.

Isn't majority a thing?

Apparently not, because then why'd you not follow the two players who saved your elimination and start a new strange wagon?

would rather follow my own reads than sheep

With kitty posted and providing nothing. There isn't enough votes for strange. Stuck at 3.

We have to switch to progo. Or it's no elimination.

Or norway/frog switches to strange.

I'm fine with either.

[Frogsterking]

Should I hammer Strange before I fall asleep?

[Frogsterking]

My ego will be crushed if Strange/Progo is not the correct solve

[NorwegianboyEE]

I guess voting Strange is the only option?
Gonna hold out a bit more before deciding on this though. Deadline not just yet.

[ofmercia]

I guess voting Strange is the only option?
Gonna hold out a bit more before deciding on this though. Deadline not just yet.

Might as well hammer. Multiple players showed up just shit post or stall. I don't expect much to change.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Deadline: 0 days, 1 hour, 39 minutes

Yeah this is getting danger close. Well let's see if Frog is right.
VOTE: Strangematter

[PenguinPower]

Votecount 2.08 - FINAL

StrangeMatter

(4): fwogcarf, ProgoWoshua, ofmercia, NorwegianboyEE

(HAMMER)

ProgoWoshua

(1): Frogsterking

fwogcarf

(1): KittyTacky

Not Voting

(1): StrangeMatter

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline

: (expired on 2022-03-09 11:21:56)

[PenguinPower]

StrangeMatter has been eliminated Day 2. She was a

Mafia Goon

.

It is now Night 2. The deadline for Night 2 is in (expired on 2022-03-11 11:29:36).

Please send any night actions to me prior to the deadline.

[PenguinPower]

ofmercia has been killed Night 2. They were a

Vanilla Townie

.

It is now Day 3. The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2022-03-19 00:29:41).

[PenguinPower]

Votecount 3.01

Not Voting

(5): KittyTacky, fwogcarf, ProgoWoshua, NorwegianboyEE, Frogsterking

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to eliminate.

Deadline

: (expired on 2022-03-19 00:29:41)