Large Normal 238 | Weiqi, Baduk, Go | Endgame

Normal Games (With basic roles and standard mechanics) Signups Here
Forum rules
User avatar
Save The Dragons
Save The Dragons
He/Him
Protection unnecessary
User avatar
User avatar
Save The Dragons
He/Him
Protection unnecessary
Protection unnecessary
Posts: 14907
Joined: April 26, 2004
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: WA, USA

Post Post #3275 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:54 am

Post by Save The Dragons »

In post 3269, Yeet wrote:STD that phone post is basically splitting my reads into TRs and not
not TRs, not scumreads.
what's the difference between scorpious being ????? and the other people being below ?????
aka Fenrir
User avatar
VP Baltar
VP Baltar
he/him
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
VP Baltar
he/him
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 17476
Joined: November 3, 2008
Pronoun: he/him

Post Post #3276 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:55 am

Post by VP Baltar »

In post 2025, Yeet wrote:My townread on Frogsterking also kind of dropped.
@Yeet, this is the most substantive thing I see you saying about frog in your ISO before I brought him up. Is there something you thing I'm missing?
YOUR AD HERE
User avatar
Save The Dragons
Save The Dragons
He/Him
Protection unnecessary
User avatar
User avatar
Save The Dragons
He/Him
Protection unnecessary
Protection unnecessary
Posts: 14907
Joined: April 26, 2004
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: WA, USA

Post Post #3277 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:55 am

Post by Save The Dragons »

In post 3274, Cape90 wrote:
In post 3253, Save The Dragons wrote:i know you said cape was town after the "TvT" cape had
but i'm questioning the action of targeting them in the first place.


i don't know what kind of spot we're in as town. i think i've got a few suspects and if we target one of them i think we'll be in good shape. TvT fights can be good because it helps eliminate suspects.

you seem to have scum reads here:
It's because I was scummy before for my hammer on GeneralWu?

Are like, you gonna read into things or ask pointless questions?
huh? i'm saying it's weird to target you for hammering wu

are you defending yeet for attacking you for the hammer?
aka Fenrir
User avatar
fireisredsir
fireisredsir
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
fireisredsir
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 4352
Joined: January 25, 2022

Post Post #3278 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:55 am

Post by fireisredsir »

In post 3257, VP Baltar wrote:@fire - this is a very recent post from me that indicates where my head is at in terms of scum hunting. My frogster realization came after this obv.

Are you asking for like a ranked reads list or something?
yea I've read that. i don't think it's a bad mentality (i kind of agree?) but it is v much keeping your options open and not really saying a whole lot of anything about your own suspicions. like when ari did something similar earlier, she was like "i think there's scum in the lower activity players, and scorpio looks the most scummy of those, so i will vote there". cool. great. your post kind of does the first part, except that you offer two possibilities that kinda include most of the playerlist, and then name one player and two pairs in a sort of offhand non-commital way.

i just want to know who you think looks scummy on an individual level. if you want to give a ranked list, go for it, that would answer my question, but it's not necessary, just give some names of who you individually scumread.
User avatar
Datisi
Datisi
he/him, it/its
Drawn from Memory
User avatar
User avatar
Datisi
he/him, it/its
Drawn from Memory
Drawn from Memory
Posts: 23603
Joined: March 28, 2019
Pronoun: he/him, it/its
Location: Croatia

Post Post #3279 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:55 am

Post by Datisi »

In post 3272, Cape90 wrote:
In post 2857, Datisi wrote:so, like, in total? 6.5/10, my gamestate reads aren't always great, but i would not mind a wagon here
what does a 6.5/10 mean?
official datisi rating of the scorpious wagon

btw can we kill enchant pls he's like blatantly scum who's coasting on a bullshit vig claim
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
~M
User avatar
Cape90
Cape90
he/him
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Cape90
he/him
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1050
Joined: July 30, 2021
Pronoun: he/him
Location: California

Post Post #3280 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:56 am

Post by Cape90 »

In post 3277, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 3274, Cape90 wrote:
In post 3253, Save The Dragons wrote:i know you said cape was town after the "TvT" cape had
but i'm questioning the action of targeting them in the first place.


i don't know what kind of spot we're in as town. i think i've got a few suspects and if we target one of them i think we'll be in good shape. TvT fights can be good because it helps eliminate suspects.

you seem to have scum reads here:
It's because I was scummy before for my hammer on GeneralWu?

Are like, you gonna read into things or ask pointless questions?
huh? i'm saying it's weird to target you for hammering wu

are you defending yeet for attacking you for the hammer?
Why would it be weird though. It feels pretty straightforward to me that hammering early like that is anti town right?
User avatar
Enchant
Enchant
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Enchant
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 9432
Joined: November 18, 2020

Post Post #3281 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:56 am

Post by Enchant »

INTIMIDATION AURA WORKS.

FEAR ME, ANIME.
User avatar
tenebrousluminary
tenebrousluminary
any
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
tenebrousluminary
any
Goon
Goon
Posts: 521
Joined: February 19, 2022
Pronoun: any

Post Post #3282 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:57 am

Post by tenebrousluminary »

VP, didn't you say you would address cape's case on you? Have you done so?
User avatar
Cape90
Cape90
he/him
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Cape90
he/him
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1050
Joined: July 30, 2021
Pronoun: he/him
Location: California

Post Post #3283 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:58 am

Post by Cape90 »

In post 3279, Datisi wrote:
In post 3272, Cape90 wrote:
In post 2857, Datisi wrote:so, like, in total? 6.5/10, my gamestate reads aren't always great, but i would not mind a wagon here
what does a 6.5/10 mean?
official datisi rating of the scorpious wagon

btw can we kill enchant pls he's like blatantly scum who's coasting on a bullshit vig claim
I am almost on board with this, but Enchant was kinda scummy the last game we played with them. I am looking at Save The Dragons right now because it feels odd the slot hasn't been pushed really despite having an underwhelming beginning and less posts then I have right now
User avatar
Nero Cain
Nero Cain
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Nero Cain
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 44912
Joined: December 6, 2009

Post Post #3284 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:59 am

Post by Nero Cain »

In post 3264, VP Baltar wrote:That's scummy af
yes my scumplay is quote something verifiably false and then expect not to be called on it. :igmeou: I thought you were supposed t be better than this?

I had just remembered someone talking about Frog and then there was the 3 rapid-fire votes on him which felt yucky to me. I'm just confbias and I was reading fires interaction with you and nodding along.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
User avatar
Save The Dragons
Save The Dragons
He/Him
Protection unnecessary
User avatar
User avatar
Save The Dragons
He/Him
Protection unnecessary
Protection unnecessary
Posts: 14907
Joined: April 26, 2004
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: WA, USA

Post Post #3285 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:59 am

Post by Save The Dragons »

In post 3280, Cape90 wrote:
In post 3277, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 3274, Cape90 wrote:
In post 3253, Save The Dragons wrote:i know you said cape was town after the "TvT" cape had
but i'm questioning the action of targeting them in the first place.


i don't know what kind of spot we're in as town. i think i've got a few suspects and if we target one of them i think we'll be in good shape. TvT fights can be good because it helps eliminate suspects.

you seem to have scum reads here:
It's because I was scummy before for my hammer on GeneralWu?

Are like, you gonna read into things or ask pointless questions?
huh? i'm saying it's weird to target you for hammering wu

are you defending yeet for attacking you for the hammer?
Why would it be weird though. It feels pretty straightforward to me that hammering early like that is anti town right?
should i have ignored any other points and jumped on the wagon when yeet started it?
aka Fenrir
User avatar
Datisi
Datisi
he/him, it/its
Drawn from Memory
User avatar
User avatar
Datisi
he/him, it/its
Drawn from Memory
Drawn from Memory
Posts: 23603
Joined: March 28, 2019
Pronoun: he/him, it/its
Location: Croatia

Post Post #3286 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:00 am

Post by Datisi »

In post 3283, Cape90 wrote:I am almost on board with this, but Enchant was kinda scummy the last game we played with them.
i used to be one of the people that said "enchant is always obvscum wtf"

then i had two (2) games where i correctly townread enchant as obvtown

hint: he's not being obvtown here >_>
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
~M
User avatar
Cape90
Cape90
he/him
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Cape90
he/him
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1050
Joined: July 30, 2021
Pronoun: he/him
Location: California

Post Post #3287 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:00 am

Post by Cape90 »

In post 3229, Save The Dragons wrote:frogster pinged me in my catch up but i'm a little wary of the wagon so far
I don't like how effortless and has a good chance of being fake of a read this feels
User avatar
Nero Cain
Nero Cain
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Nero Cain
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 44912
Joined: December 6, 2009

Post Post #3288 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:00 am

Post by Nero Cain »

In post 3279, Datisi wrote:btw can we kill enchant pls he's like blatantly scum who's coasting on a bullshit vig claim
you could have like kept your vote there instead of throwing your vote around to try to mimic how you think town plays.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
User avatar
Yeet
Yeet
He
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Yeet
He
Goon
Goon
Posts: 572
Joined: March 1, 2022
Pronoun: He

Post Post #3289 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:01 am

Post by Yeet »

In post 3279, Datisi wrote:
In post 3272, Cape90 wrote:
In post 2857, Datisi wrote:so, like, in total? 6.5/10, my gamestate reads aren't always great, but i would not mind a wagon here
what does a 6.5/10 mean?
official datisi rating of the scorpious wagon

btw can we kill enchant pls he's like blatantly scum who's coasting on a bullshit vig claim
I could see it but Enchant is just kind of a troll as either alignment iirc. It’s not enough for me to back out on fua atm. Fua was a bit too townie/vig-like for me I think.
User avatar
Datisi
Datisi
he/him, it/its
Drawn from Memory
User avatar
User avatar
Datisi
he/him, it/its
Drawn from Memory
Drawn from Memory
Posts: 23603
Joined: March 28, 2019
Pronoun: he/him, it/its
Location: Croatia

Post Post #3290 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:02 am

Post by Datisi »

In post 3288, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3279, Datisi wrote:btw can we kill enchant pls he's like blatantly scum who's coasting on a bullshit vig claim
you could have like kept your vote there instead of throwing your vote around to try to mimic how you think town plays.
sorry i was too busy getting shit on for scumreading a non-proven scummy vig claim by a dancing jesus that i didn't realize i should be still voting there :(
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
~M
User avatar
Yeet
Yeet
He
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Yeet
He
Goon
Goon
Posts: 572
Joined: March 1, 2022
Pronoun: He

Post Post #3291 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:02 am

Post by Yeet »

STD, a lot of my game is finding things that ping me and pushing them to see what happens. The hammer from Cape had scum!motivation possible behind it so it was a natural place to start putting pressuring.
User avatar
Cape90
Cape90
he/him
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Cape90
he/him
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1050
Joined: July 30, 2021
Pronoun: he/him
Location: California

Post Post #3292 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:03 am

Post by Cape90 »

In post 2769, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 2703, Cape90 wrote:not sure how much playing of mafia since 2008 has helped him, like come on, I was a literal child back then
i feel so old now
wow this place existed for a long time.

Hey anyway how do you feel about April Ludgate right now
User avatar
Nero Cain
Nero Cain
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Nero Cain
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 44912
Joined: December 6, 2009

Post Post #3293 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:04 am

Post by Nero Cain »

Did I criticize you for voting Fua? I may have but I don't really remember doing so. quote, please.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
User avatar
Save The Dragons
Save The Dragons
He/Him
Protection unnecessary
User avatar
User avatar
Save The Dragons
He/Him
Protection unnecessary
Protection unnecessary
Posts: 14907
Joined: April 26, 2004
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: WA, USA

Post Post #3294 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:04 am

Post by Save The Dragons »

i'd vote april ludgate in a heartbeat
aka Fenrir
User avatar
VP Baltar
VP Baltar
he/him
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
VP Baltar
he/him
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 17476
Joined: November 3, 2008
Pronoun: he/him

Post Post #3295 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:05 am

Post by VP Baltar »

In post 3278, fireisredsir wrote:i just want to know who you think looks scummy on an individual level. if you want to give a ranked list, go for it, that would answer my question, but it's not necessary, just give some names of who you individually scumread.
People who are scummy/I would yeet today:

Cape
Frogster
tenebros
.
.
.
.
skitter
Yeet
Eyes

(From top to bottom tier is increasingly compromising)
YOUR AD HERE
User avatar
Save The Dragons
Save The Dragons
He/Him
Protection unnecessary
User avatar
User avatar
Save The Dragons
He/Him
Protection unnecessary
Protection unnecessary
Posts: 14907
Joined: April 26, 2004
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: WA, USA

Post Post #3296 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:05 am

Post by Save The Dragons »

In post 3291, Yeet wrote:STD, a lot of my game is finding things that ping me and pushing them to see what happens. The hammer from Cape had scum!motivation possible behind it so it was a natural place to start putting pressuring.
why the hammer and not any other vote on the wagon
aka Fenrir
User avatar
Yeet
Yeet
He
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Yeet
He
Goon
Goon
Posts: 572
Joined: March 1, 2022
Pronoun: He

Post Post #3297 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:07 am

Post by Yeet »

Because the later ones are the ones that actually kill the slot? And fua was vote 9.
User avatar
Cape90
Cape90
he/him
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Cape90
he/him
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 1050
Joined: July 30, 2021
Pronoun: he/him
Location: California

Post Post #3298 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:07 am

Post by Cape90 »

In post 3285, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 3280, Cape90 wrote:
In post 3277, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 3274, Cape90 wrote:
In post 3253, Save The Dragons wrote:i know you said cape was town after the "TvT" cape had
but i'm questioning the action of targeting them in the first place.


i don't know what kind of spot we're in as town. i think i've got a few suspects and if we target one of them i think we'll be in good shape. TvT fights can be good because it helps eliminate suspects.

you seem to have scum reads here:
It's because I was scummy before for my hammer on GeneralWu?

Are like, you gonna read into things or ask pointless questions?
huh? i'm saying it's weird to target you for hammering wu

are you defending yeet for attacking you for the hammer?
Why would it be weird though. It feels pretty straightforward to me that hammering early like that is anti town right?
should i have ignored any other points and jumped on the wagon when yeet started it?
Not saying that, though I generally find those who start wagons like this to be probably town, now on the subject of VP Baltar, now that's a scum who jumped on my wagon as they have a clear and defined agenda.
User avatar
Datisi
Datisi
he/him, it/its
Drawn from Memory
User avatar
User avatar
Datisi
he/him, it/its
Drawn from Memory
Drawn from Memory
Posts: 23603
Joined: March 28, 2019
Pronoun: he/him, it/its
Location: Croatia

Post Post #3299 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:08 am

Post by Datisi »

In post 2481, Nero Cain wrote:What if Deas is just town and Skitter is the scum thats piggybacking off a not great theory?
In post 2543, Nero Cain wrote:HEM died. Agree with the sorta slow day but between us all this game is just gonna get more bloated.

I think I am of the opposite side where I'm more suspicious of Skitter/Dats attacking Fua right out of the gate.
there were more posts that were *technically* aimed at skitter but i think the general sentiment of "voting fua bad" is evident
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
~M
Locked