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Post Post #3425 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:41 am

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In post 3421, Datisi wrote:@nero, do you actually have any reason for scumreading me other than me not accepting your "hood therefore must scum" idea as gospel?
yes but I do think that you being the ONLY (or at least the only loud one) person in the game to not think there is is sorta :igmeou:
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Post Post #3426 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:43 am

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In post 3424, Cape90 wrote:
In post 3419, Datisi wrote:
In post 3413, Cape90 wrote:Anyway, what is the mindshift?
the mindshift where you voted me very easily in that blitz game, and hell voted generalwu very easily on d1, but seemed very timid in actually playing a vote down on baltar
It should be very obvious after the blitz game why I would be hesitant voting someone after a big wallpost I made
Can you explain for me? I wasn't in that game.
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Post Post #3427 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:45 am

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In post 3423, Cape90 wrote:You are obviously posturing and I don't think you believe the words you are saying, you are forcing out something onto me. You literally have jumped on like 2 wagons with me today around the same time too! i struggle how you are believing in real thoughts. Also it really looks like you have your sight set on just multiple people all at once with somehow even less direction then me, and yet you shade me for being directionless?
(1) i sometimes vote along my scumreads if i think i might be wrong on someone in the mix so "you voted against me is nonsense" (2) even if that were valid, i read your late d1/early d2 play like 2 hours ago, which was long AFTER i voted alongside you so what's your point

i'm not shading you for being "directionless", i'm shading you for the scummy hammer, and for the weird acting around baltar early on today
In post 3424, Cape90 wrote:
In post 3419, Datisi wrote:
In post 3413, Cape90 wrote:Anyway, what is the mindshift?
the mindshift where you voted me very easily in that blitz game, and hell voted generalwu very easily on d1, but seemed very timid in actually playing a vote down on baltar
It should be very obvious after the blitz game why I would be hesitant voting someone after a big wallpost I made
considering you, right after you voted me there, went back, reevaluated (something i don't see here at all!!), came to the right conclusion, unvoted, AND got townread from it, i don't really see a reason why that experience should've been discouraging you from voting sorry
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Post Post #3428 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:47 am

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In post 3426, VP Baltar wrote:Can you explain for me? I wasn't in that game.
less than 24 hours on the clock for d1, cape makes a huge wallcase on me and votes me. five minutes later (with nobody's input), he unvotes me because he went back and realized something i said actually made sense from a town pov and he might be wrong. cape got immediately townread for the case>reeval (the case itself was rly bad though), and we ended up yeeting both scum d1 and d2.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #3429 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:47 am

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Datisi also seems to love throwing around this very ironic word "opportunistic" when they only said that word once in the blitz game. Datisi's play has been riddled with oddities around this section of the game and.

The best word I can use is "hostile"

I think you could use that word for me but I am kinda just more frustrated. But Datisi feels
hostile
, (the haha is like ???), , .

I will be off for a bit
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Post Post #3430 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:48 am

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In post 3412, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 3270, Frogsterking wrote:Scum were planning to case me because of my decreased presence in the thread making me seem like a good mislim target. Scum tunnel me though as the last town power role and they convince themselves my behavior change is because of my role:
viewtopic.php?f=94&t=84243&start=25

Scum are so convinced my decreased presence is due to my role they make a play that puts them in autolose if they're unable to kill the final TPR. Town then wins the game because I'm killed and our last power role is able to survive the night.
Oh I see you're trying to point me to specific moments in this single game.

Eh, I don't think your play in that game is that analogous to this one. This game you linked is also 2 years old. Do you have any more current examples of games where you were town and lost for reads/asking a lot of softball questions without pushing in any directions?
First of all, I'm not lost for reads I've nearly PoE'd half the table. Second, I gave you the best example I can, I think I've completed less than ten forum mafia games.
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Post Post #3431 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:50 am

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In post 3429, Cape90 wrote:Datisi also seems to love throwing around this very ironic word "opportunistic" when they only said that word once in the blitz game. Datisi's play has been riddled with oddities around this section of the game and.
(1) my iso in that game is 69 (nice) posts long, here it's 270 posts
(2) i have said the word "opportunistic" just once this game too...
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Post Post #3432 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:50 am

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In post 3428, Datisi wrote:
In post 3426, VP Baltar wrote:Can you explain for me? I wasn't in that game.
less than 24 hours on the clock for d1, cape makes a huge wallcase on me and votes me. five minutes later (with nobody's input), he unvotes me because he went back and realized something i said actually made sense from a town pov and he might be wrong. cape got immediately townread for the case>reeval (the case itself was rly bad though), and we ended up yeeting both scum d1 and d2.
Thank you for strengthening my townread on Cape.
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Post Post #3433 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:51 am

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In post 3417, Datisi wrote:how do "the votes" say i'm mafia
prob b/c he keep throwing your vote around with VP so you can argue "scum wouldn't do that.
In post 1111, VP Baltar wrote:VOTE: HEM
In post 1113, Datisi wrote:VOTE: monkey
In post 2386, VP Baltar wrote:VOTE: GeneralWu
In post 2388, Datisi wrote:VOTE: generalwu
In post 3181, VP Baltar wrote:VOTE: frogster
In post 3182, Datisi wrote:VOTE: frogster
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Post Post #3434 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:51 am

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how does that strengthen it for THIS GAME?

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Post Post #3435 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:52 am

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In post 3433, Nero Cain wrote:prob b/c he keep throwing your vote around with VP so you can argue "scum wouldn't do that.
i'm not arguing "scum wouldn't do that"
i'm arguing "i do that as town, it's nai"

i'm gonna go to bed i'm actually getting annoyed with the game now
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Post Post #3436 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:53 am

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In post 3418, fireisredsir wrote:i mean Nero said he was NM this game and would lolhammer anything, why not just let him do it
I deff said I do it yesterday, don't think I said I'd do it the whole game or not.
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Post Post #3437 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:56 am

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In post 3430, Frogsterking wrote:First of all, I'm not lost for reads I've nearly PoE'd half the table.
:?
In post 3373, Mizzytastic wrote:Not Voting (2): Frogsterking
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Post Post #3438 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:57 am

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In post 3430, Frogsterking wrote:First of all, I'm not lost for reads I've nearly PoE'd half the table.
Can you like remind me who your scum reads are? I read your game first, which I guess is a condition for answering this question.
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Post Post #3439 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:57 am

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In post 3434, Datisi wrote:how does that strengthen it for THIS GAME?

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Because that story sounds similar to their play here
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Post Post #3440 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:58 am

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In post 3436, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3418, fireisredsir wrote:i mean Nero said he was NM this game and would lolhammer anything, why not just let him do it
I deff said I do it yesterday, don't think I said I'd do it the whole game or not.
yea i meant yesterday, as in why is it such a scummy thing for cape to have hammered when the scum team was probs just sitting back and letting town do it cause they knew that they would? and you had already said you would hammer anything
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Post Post #3441 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:58 am

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In post 3439, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 3434, Datisi wrote:how does that strengthen it for THIS GAME?

pedit: @frogs
Because that story sounds similar to their play here
explain this to me like i'm 5.
please.
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Post Post #3442 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:04 pm

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In post 3440, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 3436, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3418, fireisredsir wrote:i mean Nero said he was NM this game and would lolhammer anything, why not just let him do it
I deff said I do it yesterday, don't think I said I'd do it the whole game or not.
yea i meant yesterday, as in why is it such a scummy thing for cape to have hammered when the scum team was probs just sitting back and letting town do it cause they knew that they would? and you had already said you would hammer anything
I think Dats was trying to say that I'm "scummy" for still being willing to vote Wu after Hem/he/VP quick voted but I think I had already said I'd hammer Wu before the rapd votes and it was already a bloated 9p+ pages. p sure he's just scum gearing up for a push on me though.
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Post Post #3443 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:06 pm

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In post 3442, Nero Cain wrote:I think Dats was trying to say that I'm "scummy" for still being willing to vote Wu after Hem/he/VP quick voted but I think I had already said I'd hammer Wu before the rapd votes and it was already a bloated 9p+ pages.
what part of "nero didn't react to a hem/dat/vp triple vote on d1 but did react to a yeet/dat/vp triple vote on d2, that's potentially suspicious" is so fucking difficult to understand?
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Post Post #3444 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:07 pm

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In post 3442, Nero Cain wrote:I think Dats was trying to say that I'm "scummy" for still being willing to vote Wu after Hem/he/VP quick voted but I think I had already said I'd hammer Wu before the rapd votes and it was already a bloated 9p+ pages. p sure he's just scum gearing up for a push on me though.
not talking about his suspicion on you, i'm talking about the suspicion of cape for the hammer. people keep pushing it as this big scummy thing and it feels very meh to me
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Post Post #3445 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:08 pm

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In post 3441, Datisi wrote:
In post 3439, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 3434, Datisi wrote:how does that strengthen it for THIS GAME?

pedit: @frogs
Because that story sounds similar to their play here
explain this to me like i'm 5.
please.
Their town meta is impulsive and thoughtful and they write a lot sometimes. If they're scum it's good acting, I think it's difficult to fake. I'll be less willing to townread them if they have a performing arts background.
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Post Post #3446 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:09 pm

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yeah it's a very lvl 1 thought process
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Post Post #3447 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:28 pm

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In post 3401, Datisi wrote:can you answer *my* question though?
In post 3404, Datisi wrote:
In post 3127, Frogsterking wrote:That's too bad because I really like the composition of the wagon on luminary.
In post 3128, Datisi wrote:who do you *do* want to vote?
In post 3437, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 3430, Frogsterking wrote:First of all, I'm not lost for reads I've nearly PoE'd half the table.
:?
In post 3373, Mizzytastic wrote:Not Voting (2): Frogsterking
In post 3438, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 3430, Frogsterking wrote:First of all, I'm not lost for reads I've nearly PoE'd half the table.
Can you like remind me who your scum reads are? I read your game first, which I guess is a condition for answering this question.
I was being cagey to give you a chance to do something townie before I tipped you off.

VOTE: VP Baltar

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Post Post #3448 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:36 pm

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In post 3447, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 3401, Datisi wrote:can you answer *my* question though?
In post 3404, Datisi wrote:
In post 3127, Frogsterking wrote:That's too bad because I really like the composition of the wagon on luminary.
In post 3128, Datisi wrote:who do you *do* want to vote?
In post 3437, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 3430, Frogsterking wrote:First of all, I'm not lost for reads I've nearly PoE'd half the table.
:?
In post 3373, Mizzytastic wrote:Not Voting (2): Frogsterking
In post 3438, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 3430, Frogsterking wrote:First of all, I'm not lost for reads I've nearly PoE'd half the table.
Can you like remind me who your scum reads are? I read your game first, which I guess is a condition for answering this question.
I was being cagey to give you a chance to do something townie before I tipped you off.

VOTE: VP Baltar

I don't know if this is a bad town push or a scum who pr reads me or just wants to pad the bodycount.
And full disclosure Yeet, Datisi, Eyes, Skitter, Dragons, and April are the other slots I still need to sort. I'm optimistic the Enchant slot will be killed or mech-cleared before I have to figure out their alignment.
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Post Post #3449 (ISO) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:44 pm

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In post 3447, Frogsterking wrote:before I tipped you off.
Lol OK yeah, I'm sure.

When did you start scum reading me?
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