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[DeasVail]

Look through my ISO and analyse all my mentions of VP if you want. It is fundamentally not the ISO of teammates, there is no need for me to so consistently suspect them at this point in the game.

Your intense focus on the viability of a you-VP mafia team is very curious!

It matches up with his desire for concrete points to rebut.

Good point, and that was a concern of mine too, since I think scum are more likely to want something solid to defend against. But I don’t know, the chaos and the insistence of how it’s impossible that he and VP are scum together struck me as strange in a not-scummy sort of way.

PEdit: wtf

[DeasVail]

Fire, I will forgive you for all your transgressions if you return to the light

[tenebrousluminary]

Good point, and that was a concern of mine too, since I think scum are more likely to want something solid to defend against

I concur.

VP's stances right now are straining the bounds of credulity.

[fireisredsir]

I can't both be decently likely scum and you being unsure.

no??? do you think unsure = has no idea? unsure = not 100% sure

[fireisredsir]

(vp is stunlocked)

[VP Baltar]

Lol this guy says he isn't arguing I'm scum. Very unsure!

didn't say that lol. obv i was arguing you were scum before. but i wasn't convinced, i never am

So you always argue people are scum up to e-2 that you're unsure about? How unsure were you?

what kind of a question is this lmao? yes??? that's how mafia works?? everyone is always unsure

Mafia run from committing. Town are unafraid at the moment of limming

[VP Baltar]

(vp is stunlocked)

Nah, you boring. I've made my point, scumfuck

[tenebrousluminary]

Lol this guy says he isn't arguing I'm scum. Very unsure!

didn't say that lol. obv i was arguing you were scum before. but i wasn't convinced, i never am

So you always argue people are scum up to e-2 that you're unsure about? How unsure were you?

what kind of a question is this lmao? yes??? that's how mafia works?? everyone is always unsure

Mafia run from committing. Town are unafraid at the moment of limming

TIL I'm mafia every game.

[MathBlade]

The second rule of go is the suicide rule. You cannot play in a position that reduces the liberties of one of your groups to zero, resulting in it being captured.

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Official Votecount 1.3

GeneralWu (4): Nero Cain, fua, VP Baltar, tenebrousluminary

[E-6]

Datisi (3): skitter30, Yeet, humaneatingmonkey
tenebrousluminary (2): fireisredsir, Save The Dragons
humaneatingmonkey (2): Aristeia, Cape90
skitter30 (1): Datisi
Yeet (1): Frogsterking

Not Voting (6): Scorpious, DeasVail, MalcolmTucker, Eyes without a face, Nordom, GeneralWu

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to achieve an eliminaton.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2022-03-12 05:15:00).

It isn't suicide to play a stone that captures your opponents stones, even if it has no liberties before the capture removes those stones.

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Official Votecount 1.4

Datisi (5): skitter30, Yeet, humaneatingmonkey, Nordom, tenebrousluminary

[E-5]

humaneatingmonkey (3): Aristeia, Cape90, VP Baltar
Yeet (2): Frogsterking, Nero Cain
skitter30 (1): Datisi
Eyes without a face (1): Save The Dragons
tenebrousluminary (1): fireisredsir
GeneralWu (1): fua

Not Voting (5): Scorpious, DeasVail, MalcolmTucker, Eyes without a face, GeneralWu

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to achieve an eliminaton.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2022-03-12 05:15:00).

The $200 is paid only once each time around the board. However, if a player passing GO on the throw of the dice lands 2 spaces beyond it on Community Chest, or 7 spaces beyond it on Chance, and draws the "Advance to GO" card, they collect $200 for passing GO the first time, and another $200 for Advancing to it the second time by the instructions on the card.

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Official Votecount 1.18

GeneralWu (10): tenebrousluminary, fireisredsir, Yeet, Save The Dragons, VP Baltar, humaneatingmonkey, Datisi, MathBlade, fua, Cape90

[E-0!]

fua (2): skitter30, April Ludgate
Yeet (1): Frogsterking
Nero Cain(1): Nero Cain
Frogsterking (1): Eyes without a face

Not Voting (4): Scorpious, DeasVail, MalcolmTucker, GeneralWu

With 19 players alive, an elimination has been achieved.

click here for joined mod iso.

Sorry this is overdue and I don’t like either wagon so I figured I would do this.

We know Wu is town.
So Datisi being scum or town has a huge effect on narrative

If Datisi is town then scum never were wagoned at all D1. This means a wolf is in D1 TRs probably
If Datisi is scum then Skitter and April look really bad

If Datisi scum probably a scum in tene or VP. Probably VP much as I TR him because VP and Tene are the ones that made Datisi over Wu

[DeasVail]

I’m sorry for thinking you were scum, tene

[MathBlade]

How do people read Datisi?

[DeasVail]

How do people read Datisi?

Eh

I’m sort of waiting for his take on recent events before progressing my read further

[VP Baltar]

How do people read Datisi?

Datisi is not an easy read. He is more likely to have controversial opinions as town,

[fireisredsir]

Mafia run from committing. Town are unafraid at the moment of limming

this is so basic and formulaic, you've been playing for like 15 years there's no shot you believe this

[fireisredsir]

also it took great effort to overcome my urges and not go with my initial instinct of "im obvtown so anyone suspecting me is confscum gg lock em up"

i think maybe my initial instinct was right

confscum gg lock em up

VOTE: VP Baltar

[fireisredsir]

sorry april maybe another time

[MathBlade]

The Card Czar shuffles all of the answers and shares each card combination with the group. For full effect, the Card Czar should usually re-read the Black Card before presenting each answer. The Card Czar then picks a favorite, and whoever played that answer keeps the Black Card as one Awesome Point. After the round, a new player becomes the Card Czar and everyone draws back up to ten White Cards.

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Official Votecount 2.9

VP Baltar (6): Scorpious, tenebrousluminary, Nero Cain, Frogsterking, MathBlade, DeasVail

[E-3]

MalcolmTucker (4): April Ludgate, Eyes without a face, Yeet, fireisredsir
tenebrousluminary (1): MalcolmTucker
Enchant (1): skitter30
skitter30 (1): Enchant
Cape90 (1): Datisi
April Ludgate (1): Save the Dragons
fireisredsir (1): VP Baltar

Not Voting (1): Cape90

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2022-03-16 09:20:00).

click here for joined mod iso.

VP April Datisi Skitter?

Musing?

[fireisredsir]

VP April Datisi Skitter?

that would be an absolutely nutty team and im pretty sure they would be doing better than they are if that were the case

[MathBlade]

VP April Datisi Skitter?

that would be an absolutely nutty team and im pretty sure they would be doing better than they are if that were the case

Scum are doing excellent if that is the team.

Please clarify why you think scum are doing bad

[April Ludgate]

Like why is April's slot under so little pressure? It was heavily pushed on day one, Ari left the game, April came in, argued they weren't mafia based on their lack of posting, despite being a replace-in, then accused me and admitted they had no clue as to what was actually going on in the game while doing so, and yet has stuck to that wagon since. It's just such a nonsense case and it's ridiculous town are even contemplating it at the moment.

Helps when you have a lot of games on record catching scum, and I feel like I've been pretty up front and transparent about all my thoughts since replacing in, and have become a rather active player in this game.

It was that energy behind your posting that I specifically was able to sense because I was an outsider.

Scum play to the players in the game, so you hadn't been able to work on me, which is one of the reasons replacements suck more for scum than town.

[April Ludgate]

VP April Datisi Skitter?

that would be an absolutely nutty team and im pretty sure they would be doing better than they are if that were the case

Scum are doing excellent if that is the team.

Please clarify why you think scum are doing bad

Disagree that it'd be excellent.

VPB is heavily under fire, I'm out on a limb defending, and have an MIA skitter.

[April Ludgate]

Also, yeah, Fire/DV has scum in them, VPB. Don't know which, but you're stuck in the center of it.

[MathBlade]

I think that team would be excellent because only VP is under suspicion.

I think maybe I win as scum a lot because I play scum differently?

[April Ludgate]

I think that team would be excellent because only VP is under suspicion.

I think maybe I win as scum a lot because I play scum differently?

As scum, I always like to look ahead, I'm more focused on what's happening Day 4/Day 5 as scum on Day 2, which is something a lot of scum players dont do.

VPB goes down today with that scum team, there's no way I ever make it to end game, and with the unknown of Skitter slot, I would argue this would be a pretty bad spot for that scum team, however, I feel like I'd possibly be able to talk my way out of it.

But yeah, this is a VPB-AL partnered case I'm arguing, so I really really hope I'm right that VPB is town, or I'm on the chopping block.

Thing is, I'm the type of player that no matter what VPB would flip, people would try to tie me to it tomorrow anyways at this point.

[VP Baltar]

I think that team would be excellent because only VP is under suspicion.

I think maybe I win as scum a lot because I play scum differently?

If that was the team, this game would be so easy it'd be a joke.