Mini Normal 2262: NbITGBSMoD [game over]

[Umlaut]

I do like bonus points but I like winning more. I need to think about this. Andante is the obvious choice mechanically and by play but I don't understand how she benefits from allowing this endgame.

[Umlaut]

I mean it could be as simple as "Dwlee thinks I'm scum so I'll shoot him" but I don't think Andante is that simpleminded

[Umlaut]

I mean it could be as simple as "Dwlee thinks I'm scum so I'll shoot

them

" but I don't think Andante is that simpleminded

dammit

[Stephen A Smith]

do you think im mafia doctor?

[Umlaut]

vote count 1.final

with 13 votes in play, it took 7 to make a decision. day 1 ended.

yeet

Greeting

[7]:

fireisredsir

,

Nero Cain

,

Eyes without a face

, Stephen A Smith,

Scorpious

,

HockeyFan

,

Dwlee99

[HAMMER]

Nero Cain

[2]:

Frozen Angel

,

Greeting

Scorpious

[2]:

wavemode

,

the worst

Andante [1]:

Umlaut

not voting [1]:

Andante

vote count 2.final

with 11 votes in play, it took 6 to make a decision. day 2 ended.

yeet

Nero Cain

[6]:

the worst

, Umlaut,

Scorpious

, Stephen A Smith,

Dwlee99

, Andante

[HAMMER]

Scorpious

[1]:

HockeyFan

Andante [1]:

Nero Cain

the worst

[1]:

Eyes without a face

Eyes without a face

[1]:

wavemode

not voting [1]:

fireisredsir

vote count 3.final

with 9 votes in play, it took 5 to make a decision. day 3 ended.

yeet

Scorpious

[5]:

wavemode

, Andante,

HockeyFan

,

Dwlee99

, Stephen A Smith

[HAMMER]

Dwlee99

[1]:

the worst

wavemode

[1]:

Scorpious

not voting [2]:

Eyes without a face

, Umlaut

vote count 4.final

with 7 votes in play, it took 4 to make a decision. day 4 ended.

yeet

Eyes without a face

[4]:

Dwlee99

,

the worst

, Andante,

Eyes without a face

[HAMMER]

HockeyFan

[1]:

Umlaut

Umlaut [1]:

HockeyFan

Dwlee99

[1]:

Stephen A Smith

not voting [0]:

vote count 5.final

with 5 votes in play, it took 3 to make a decision. day 5 ended.

yeet

HockeyFan

[3]:

Andante, Umlaut, Stephen A Smith

[HAMMER]

Andante [1]:

HockeyFan

not voting [1]:

Dwlee99

Don't mind me, just putting these here for my own reference and seeing if I can get something out of them. Note Stephen is the only unsorted person on the Greeting wagon, but that wagon already has two scum on it so nothing really needs explaining there. Also note if Andante is town then the Eyes yeet was all-town

[Umlaut]

do you think im mafia doctor?

I mean,

probably

not, this setup is really damn weird if you are.

I've lost track of whether your being mafia doctor is consistent with all the confirmed information we have, tbh. What were your Alien/Voyeur results again?

[Umlaut]

n1 i targeted fireisredsir - that's why he was blocked
n2 i targeted fireisredsir - a killing action was performed on him (very useful i know lol)
n3 i targeted duckie - duckie is very unpopular and no1 else did anything to duckie

Found 'em

[Stephen A Smith]

uh if i'm not alien but actually mafia doctor that would mean town not only doesn't have a protective/blocker tpr but also that the gunsmith can get false innos lol

this setup literally never passes review if i'm informed mafia doctor instead of alien voyeur.

[Umlaut]

That's why probably not (also I don't see why you would claim Voyeur at all if you were just making things up)

[Umlaut]

I concede it doesn't make much sense for you to be scum but let me have my paranoid moment please

[Umlaut]

Just noticed Andante has V/LA status set which is... unfortunate timing

[Stephen A Smith]

are you saying she couldn't have made the nightkill because she was on vacation all night?

[Umlaut]

Was she on vacation all night? I only just noticed it now.

But no, I believe she could pop in long enough to submit a kill even if she was. I just meant it's annoying that I'm waiting for her to say something and it might take days for that to happen.

[Andante]

V/LA doesn't mean I can't be here at all,
if I had to vote right now I'd probably vote Umlaut, but I was having a good solve with duckie right before they died, so like, I'm not dealing with this till like wednesday night or thursday. Like, sure I could just vote Umlaut and call it a day, but I owe it to all the dead townies to at least give it an effort, and feel confident about my decision, so before I vote Umlaut I want to be absolutely certain, but reading D6 here, feels like Umlaut is weighing options too much, and trying to just sit on the fence, see which way we're leaning, then go from there.. I mean, Umlaut killing Dwlee is easy, Umlaut feels more confident in being able to convince you I'm scum than convincing you of dwlee scum.

so like tldr: I'm like 95% sold on Umlaut maf, but I'm currently busy, and will deal with this later

[Stephen A Smith]

i'm like obviously town there's like nothing for either of you to think about

just cross vote and i'll like reread or flip a coin

[Umlaut]

V/LA doesn't mean I can't be here at all,
if I had to vote right now I'd probably vote Umlaut, but I was having a good solve with duckie right before they died, so like, I'm not dealing with this till like wednesday night or thursday. Like, sure I could just vote Umlaut and call it a day, but I owe it to all the dead townies to at least give it an effort, and feel confident about my decision, so before I vote Umlaut I want to be absolutely certain, but reading D6 here, feels like Umlaut is weighing options too much, and trying to just sit on the fence, see which way we're leaning, then go from there.. I mean, Umlaut killing Dwlee is easy, Umlaut feels more confident in being able to convince you I'm scum than convincing you of dwlee scum.

so like tldr: I'm like 95% sold on Umlaut maf, but I'm currently busy, and will deal with this later

This is nonsense, Stephen was literally already convinced of Dwlee scum, it makes no sense for me to kill Dwlee over you. The fact you don't seem to have already realized that could be a reason

you

would kill Dwlee though. (Well more likely the reason is just that they thought you were scum and not realizing that is why you didn't have second thoughts about killing them)

I'm not going to sit around waiting until Wednesday to sort this out

VOTE: Andante

Realistically this is always who I am voting today so there's no need to drag it out.

[Stephen A Smith]

i town

[Umlaut]

I think if you just reread the game should make itself clear but all the same I will go through and make some kind of case. I hate making cases when I already know who is scum because it's impossible to avoid confbias but it's still a.thing I should do.

Please ask me any questions you have.

[Andante]

ooh nice this is easy for me then!!
VOTE: Umlaut

and this would explain exactly why umlaut was so on the fence about who it was here, then that moment of panic like “oh what? andante vla and wasn’t here??”

and umlaut, what I was saying about the kill, if you had killed me, you’d have to have some sort of conviction behind dwlee maf or stephen maf, all you’ve done all game has been push me back, except the past days where we yeeted town, so here, you’d rather just keep pushing me, it makes complete sense.

I’m kinda around today, won’t be around tomorrow (unless maybe late, no promises)

but Stephen, I’m town here and if you have ANY doubts on that, please give me a chance to clear up any doubts there before yeeting me!!

[Stephen A Smith]

my body is ready

[Umlaut]

Working on a post highlighting Andante'a behavior toward the wagons on known scum but it might not be done til tonight because I have to actually do my job at work today

[Stephen A Smith]

alright I have some free time this weekend to reread and think this out.

don't worry about like casing each other or whatever. I will be thorough as fuck.

[Datisi]

prodding Andante.

edit: i now notice she has v/la tags up. i don't think she's declared v/la in this game, the tags say until march 17, and it is already march 17 in the glorious land of europe. because i don't feel like trying to decode what time zone she is and when does her v/la Truly end, i'm prodding her anyway and giving her 36 hours to respond instead of the usual 24. cool? cool.

[Datisi]

and

[Datisi]

also