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Post Post #4475 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:53 am

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I've been wary to push an inactive wagon for D2, but then I suppose Galron was a fairly active slot before they replaced in, and there's maybe stuff to be learned from eliminating it? I don't know, I've been hesitant to go for a slot that's been pushed for lazy reasons but Skitter was being pushed before they dropped out and Galron hasn't helped their cause...and replace-ins have significantly narrowed down the field. I'm wary of hammering/pre-hammering but if there's a consensus here I'll go for it ahead of VP this turn I reckon.
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Post Post #4476 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:54 am

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Post Post #4477 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:55 am

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In post 4473, Yeet wrote:I am *staunchly opposed* to the wagon
What do you prefer here though? You've said yourself that you were starting to doubt I was mafia. You've struggled to state exactly why you are opposed to me. Several of the players who were on my wagon only went on it because they weren't keen on the other alternative, that's not a good reason for eliminating someone. I'm all ears for an alternative but feels like we're running out here.
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Post Post #4478 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:56 am

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In post 4476, VP Baltar wrote:UNVOTE:
Weren't you especially keen on this wagon a short while ago?
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Post Post #4479 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:12 am

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In post 4470, Yeet wrote:skitter was extremely town at start of D2, just trust me I doubt she plays it that way. I’m not 100% but I would say I have a pretty strong read there. Arguments for Galron scum are super weak. This is one of those flashwagons that is probably scum motivated taking advantage of confusion and scrambling
I disagree with this. She pinged me as scum and Galron is doing the scum I am sorta here ish Wolfie thing he does as scum.
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Post Post #4480 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:12 am

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I trust you believe she is town and therefore Galron is. I just think you’re wrong.
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Post Post #4481 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:37 am

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I don’t hate just killing scorp and calling it a day tbh.
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Post Post #4482 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:38 am

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In post 4477, MalcolmTucker wrote:
In post 4473, Yeet wrote:I am *staunchly opposed* to the wagon
What do you prefer here though? You've said yourself that you were starting to doubt I was mafia. You've struggled to state exactly why you are opposed to me. Several of the players who were on my wagon only went on it because they weren't keen on the other alternative, that's not a good reason for eliminating someone. I'm all ears for an alternative but feels like we're running out here.
I’m definitely more opposed to Galron and VP than any of the other wagons (you and scorp)
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Post Post #4483 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:39 am

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And fire too, could compromise there I guess as well
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Post Post #4484 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:49 am

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In post 4481, Yeet wrote:I don’t hate just killing scorp and calling it a day tbh.
In post 4482, Yeet wrote:
In post 4477, MalcolmTucker wrote:
In post 4473, Yeet wrote:I am *staunchly opposed* to the wagon
What do you prefer here though? You've said yourself that you were starting to doubt I was mafia. You've struggled to state exactly why you are opposed to me. Several of the players who were on my wagon only went on it because they weren't keen on the other alternative, that's not a good reason for eliminating someone. I'm all ears for an alternative but feels like we're running out here.
I’m definitely more opposed to Galron and VP than any of the other wagons (you and scorp)
If the only wagons were VP and Galron who would you vote?
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Post Post #4485 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:50 am

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VP probably
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Post Post #4486 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:53 am

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In post 4485, Yeet wrote:VP probably
Then please vote VP.
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Post Post #4487 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:07 am

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It's probably good that Yeet's reads are upside down from mine.
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Post Post #4488 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:52 am

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VOTE: malcom

We should yeet somebody and call it a day. Not sure what we are waiting for here.
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Post Post #4489 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:57 am

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In post 4488, VP Baltar wrote:VOTE: malcom

We should yeet somebody and call it a day. Not sure what we are waiting for here.
Were you not confident on the Galron wagon? Seems to be doing alright and you were more confident on it. I'd be happy to back it tomorrow if we have a consensus, don't want to accidentally either hammer or allow someone else to do so while we remain a bit uncertain but aware we don't have too long left.
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Post Post #4490 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:03 pm

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In post 4489, MalcolmTucker wrote:Were you not confident on the Galron wagon?
Upon further reflection, we should just stick to what we have today.

A misyeet of me isn't great, but better now than on D5, and my flip will be instructive. I think you should vote me and we will let the chips fall where they may.
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Post Post #4491 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:06 pm

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In post 4490, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4489, MalcolmTucker wrote:Were you not confident on the Galron wagon?
Upon further reflection, we should just stick to what we have today.

A misyeet of me isn't great, but better now than on D5, and my flip will be instructive. I think you should vote me and we will let the chips fall where they may.
This uncertainty from you feels townie though which is where my reluctance comes in. But you could just be playing it well. I'll have a think for the morning (if we're all still here and nobody has been hammered).
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Post Post #4492 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:08 pm

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We could both be town here, but I've given my parting thoughts for people to follow when they have better info tomorrow.
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Post Post #4493 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:22 pm

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it's now 6 on malc, 5 on galron, and 3 on you, with nero currently on you but stating his intention to move to galron. you moving off galron onto malc isn't making it you vs malc, it's just making malc more likely to die over galron

given that, the noble sacrifice attitude falls a little flat
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Post Post #4494 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:29 pm

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In post 4493, fireisredsir wrote:it's now 6 on malc, 5 on galron, and 3 on you, with nero currently on you but stating his intention to move to galron. you moving off galron onto malc isn't making it you vs malc, it's just making malc more likely to die over galron

given that, the noble sacrifice attitude falls a little flat
The galron people who left me will come back when they see that wagon isn't going to happen.

If I have one strength in this game, it's being able to read the social currents before they happen. (Which is also why I think it should be obvious I'm not scum given my antagonism of folks).
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Post Post #4495 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:31 pm

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Separate thought I just had is that if Malcom is town here, April coming in and starting a dueling wagon on him is pretty smart. It would be an artificial way to get town arguing over two town wagons, which is pretty much auto pilot for scum that day then. Could be tinfoil, but think more about the big picture here if malc and I are both green.
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Post Post #4496 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:38 pm

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How could April have known Malcolm would become a real wagon? I was the only one suspecting him at the time
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Post Post #4497 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:38 pm

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In post 4493, fireisredsir wrote:it's now 6 on malc, 5 on galron, and 3 on you, with nero currently on you but stating his intention to move to galron. you moving off galron onto malc isn't making it you vs malc, it's just making malc more likely to die over galron

given that, the noble sacrifice attitude falls a little flat
Exactly it was just stall until a cw could form

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Post Post #4498 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:38 pm

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In post 4496, Yeet wrote:How could April have known Malcolm would become a real wagon? I was the only one suspecting him at the time
Because boonskiies is probably scumskiies
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Post Post #4499 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:44 pm

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In post 4496, Yeet wrote:How could April have known Malcolm would become a real wagon? I was the only one suspecting him at the time
Flavor's super power is crowd influence. I'm not saying that is absolutely the case, but a malc and vp town world would mean that's something to consider.
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