Newbie 2090 (Game Over)

[PlmPestPlaY]

The three people who didn't seem to care which one of Somnus/Marci was pushed through were furtive, Goldfish, and yourself. I don't know where Goldfish currently stands, and I guess to some extent, I don't know where you currently stand either.

GoldfishFromTheMoon seemed pretty set on marcistar, so I think I disagree there. I don't think GoldfishFromTheMoon and furtiveglance fit the 2nd part of #4. furtiveglance and GoldfishFromTheMoon both made a case against marcistar. So does this give us - or + town points?

[BigTerp]

Back to the dueling wagon idea. I like a Somnus/Turtle one right now. And to a lesser extent Somnus/Furtive.

[Somnus]

Not really sure I understand the last part, Terp. What I was saying to Pimpest is that I would have had the most to gain by far out of anyone by hopping on the Marci wagon or casing her.

[Somnus]

Back to the dueling wagon idea. I like a Somnus/Turtle one right now. And to a lesser extent Somnus/Furtive.

You realize that asking for a wagon on me again today, especially calling for Somnus/furtive, wagons 0 of the people who voted for Marci, correct?

[BigTerp]

Not really sure I understand the last part, Terp. What I was saying to Pimpest is that I would have had the most to gain by far out of anyone by hopping on the Marci wagon or casing her.

Sorry. My response definitely got a bit wordy and I had trouble articulating my thoughts well.

What I meant was you present ideas on why something would be scummy only to use that to show that you're not scummy. It's like you're defending yourself for no reason. I've mentioned that before in regards to your play being defensive, and it still rings true.

[BigTerp]

Back to the dueling wagon idea. I like a Somnus/Turtle one right now. And to a lesser extent Somnus/Furtive.

You realize that asking for a wagon on me again today, especially calling for Somnus/furtive, wagons 0 of the people who voted for Marci, correct?

Yes, I'm aware. That's part of the reason I prefer a Somnus/Furtive wagon less than a Turtle/Somnus wagon. But I believe we get more info from a Somnus/Furtive wagon versus a Turtle/Furtive one. Hence why I did not present the last one (Turtle/Furtive) as an option I would currently like to see.

[Somnus]

I see. I wasn’t being defensive. I’m pointing out that the only other person who could have been eliminated Day 1 made no effort to push the other (and Marci didn’t either). So to me it’s weird that that would be someone’s first reaction to seeing a dead townie.

[TTTT]

I'm not going to just assume a day1 miselim has to have had scum onboard
it's rare to see an all town miselim
but it happens

[TTTT]

Turtle is coasting
hasn't actually pushed anyone
isn't trying to sort anyone
I need somebody, anybody, who disagrees with me to tell me why I'm wrong

[TTTT]

if you aren't voting
please do soon
4 days is not a ton of time

Vote Count 2-4

Not Voting (4):

Mr Turtle, Somnus, PlmPestPlaY, GoldfishFromTheMoon

Countdown: (expired on 2022-03-22 05:25:00)

[furtiveglance]

Turtle is coasting
hasn't actually pushed anyone
isn't trying to sort anyone
I need somebody, anybody, who disagrees with me to tell me why I'm wrong

I think you're wrong, low frequency posting doesn't equal mafia. Somnus is much more suspicious, his defence now is that he could have pushed marci but didn't?
Somnus is a much better vote.

[TTTT]

low frequency posting doesn't equal mafia

not what I said

[BigTerp]

Turtle is coasting
hasn't actually pushed anyone
isn't trying to sort anyone
I need somebody, anybody, who disagrees with me to tell me why I'm wrong

I think you're wrong, low frequency posting doesn't equal mafia. Somnus is much more suspicious, his defence now is that he could have pushed marci but didn't?
Somnus is a much better vote.

I don't necessarily disagree with TTTT here. I also don't think he's saying that low frequency posting equals mafia. It's more of the same reasons he has mentioned and laid out before. Pretty consistent stuff from TTTT in regards to Turtle lately.

And, like I've already said, I'd like to see a Somnus/Turtle dueling wagons. Should help generate some conversation and movement that might be telling.

[BigTerp]

low frequency posting doesn't equal mafia

not what I said

Like I thought.

[BigTerp]

I'm not going to just assume a day1 miselim has to have had scum onboard
it's rare to see an all town miselim
but it happens

Fair enough.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

The three people who didn't seem to care which one of Somnus/Marci was pushed through were furtive, Goldfish, and yourself. I don't know where Goldfish currently stands, and I guess to some extent, I don't know where you currently stand either.

GoldfishFromTheMoon seemed pretty set on marcistar, so I think I disagree there. I don't think GoldfishFromTheMoon and furtiveglance fit the 2nd part of #4. furtiveglance and GoldfishFromTheMoon both made a case against marcistar. So does this give us - or + town points?

I'm sorry PPP but I'm not sure you're representing my intentions entierly accurately. I wasn't completely set on Marcistar, I would have been happy with either marci or somnus day 1 because I really wasn't certain about a read on anyone. I know I made a case against marcistar and multiple times said particular things they were doing seemed suspicious but that was more to convince myself that my vote was in the right place that for anyone else.

Side note PPP I don't like how you seem to be viewing me and you as a group, this is the second time you've reffered to "us" or "me and goldfishfromthemoon" Idk if you're trying to get me to townread you by seeming to be thinking along the same lines but it's not working. You're still null possibly scum (although some of your posts today were looking a bit more town-ish).

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Back to the dueling wagon idea. I like a Somnus/Turtle one right now. And to a lesser extent Somnus/Furtive.

You realize that asking for a wagon on me again today, especially calling for Somnus/furtive, wagons 0 of the people who voted for Marci, correct?

It's not really about who actually voted for Marcistar it's about who was pushung for that vote and Furtiveglance was definitely one of those people even if he never actually voted for her he was always the hammer waiting to happen.

[Mr Turtle]

I don't remember a single post by Goldie, so probably scum.

Could you explain this further for me please. How does you not remembering any of my posts make you think I'm scum? Please remember the fact that I replaced into this game so I don't have as many posts as other players because I haven't been in the thread as long.

Unmemorable posts make it seem that you are trying to fly under the radar. It doesn't have to do with the quantity of posts per se.

[Mr Turtle]

Turtle is coasting
hasn't actually pushed anyone
isn't trying to sort anyone
I need somebody, anybody, who disagrees with me to tell me why I'm wrong

I prefer to wait to vote until I've ISOd someone.

I'll be here more on the weekend, so if you'll wait for that long that would be nice.

[TTTT]

I will be VLA from 3/19-3/24
no internet access at all
I'll be on a boat in the Caribbean so don't feel sorry for me!

correction:
I will have internet access Saturday until around 3pm EST
and maybe a moment or two on Tuesday (which is after the deadline anyway)
my VLA is 3/20-3/23

Turtle

- if you want to convince me to move my vote you really only have until around noon EST Saturday

[TTTT]

it's not fair for me to ask the game to cater to my schedule
I get that
but after this boat sails away from shore my vote will be locked until the day ends

[Mr Turtle]

Goldfish - A slot that is incredibly hedgy. I don't like 571 & 585. The first has seemingly random one-liners such as "this post freaks me out" or "I find this very interesting". Why is this progressing the game?
While ("

I don't want to take to strong a stance because I think I'm possibly wrong and I don't want to throw the game.

") not wanting to throw the game is admirable, none of their stances have been "too strong". The stance they follow up with is literally "let's eliminate the leading wagon and most widely scum-read player marcistar" with an added "(but I do think she is scum)" to assure us that they aren't trying to eliminate one of their town-reads.

They also keep on apologizing and not committing "(sorry I know you didn't want a wall of text)", "Tentative reads (I don't trust all these yet)" & "so here is my explaining (and I get this sounds bad)". This just feels so awkward. "I know this looks bad but I'm going to put my vote back on Marci" -> the constant focus on "this sounds/looks bad" makes me believe that they're hyper-focusing on their image and how they need to appear towny.

577 feels eh. Especially when followed by 579. It's as if they're trying to prove "I'm not scum, watch me vote the scummiest player!".

The reads list in 583 is okay. It's nothing ground-breaking or alignment-indicative either way. I don't blame them, they subbed into end of day. But nothing new, still the same hedginess and whatever "

I visualise him as Watson from the BBC Sherlock TV show because of the profile pic, which biases me toward thinking he is town.

" is.

I get that they subbed into a difficult position, but I feel like this is more likely newb!scum than newb!town. Newb!town knows that they are 100% town and while not confident in their reads, they generally seem less worried and awkward than Goldfish here. To me this looks like Goldfish very badly wanted to get on people's good side by being apolegetic and going with the flow.

Sadly, it's late. I'll continue their ISO as soon as I can. I didn't make it past post #10 of their ISO yet, so maybe something changes. But until then VOTE: GoldfishFromTheMoon for the self-conscious entrance.

[Mr Turtle]

I did this for you, TTTT. Enjoy.

[TTTT]

thank you
I did enjoy that

[Frozen Angel]