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[April Ludgate]

VOTE: Malcolm

Don’t bother this is the best way to prove Boon scum

And that proves anything how?

Simple VCA and day play

Boon did anything g possible to avoid VP and Galron

I'm inclined to feel Galron might have been right on scum. Namely those that are right on scum are the ones getting pushed. If VP and April agreed on a scumread, then they are likely scum. I can't see us bumbling this bad without aggressive scum.

The problem is the belief that Math has been agency captured puts me in direct odds with him and I don't want that to become a clusterfuck.

It took so long for VPB to vote alongside me, and honestly, good on them. I feel we had active contradicting reads, so that’s a good sign, I guess

[fireisredsir]

I'm not saying it was his stated preferred wagon. I don't think you're exactly getting what I'm saying here, and I'm sure that's on me. The point is him being OK with it without backing it. I'm not sure what you think I'm saying.

that's a pretty big walkback from this:

Look at him today, he is trying to shade people on the Malcom wagon, even though he spent good chunks of yesterday promoting it. It's the same exact thing he did with Wu, except somehow even mote naked this time.

he hard pushed wu most of day 1 and you're saying it's the same exact thing. now you're saying that your point was that he was ok with the wagon without backing it? nah that's not what you said. you said he was promoting and pushing and supporting it.

[VP Baltar]

So while I’ll fight for my defense, if I use some empathy for other townies, I can’t disagree that I’m not a good fade.

I actually find it weirder you are doing this whole woe is me thing. Feels like acting.

I don't think anyone with sway is out here pushing you rn. I would appreciate if you just help me solve the game.

[April Ludgate]

So while I’ll fight for my defense, if I use some empathy for other townies, I can’t disagree that I’m not a good fade.

I actually find it weirder you are doing this whole woe is me thing. Feels like acting.

I don't think anyone with sway is out here pushing you rn. I would appreciate if you just help me solve the game.

Yeah, makes sense. Want some self meta? I mainly woe is me as town.

[April Ludgate]

So while I’ll fight for my defense, if I use some empathy for other townies, I can’t disagree that I’m not a good fade.

I actually find it weirder you are doing this whole woe is me thing. Feels like acting.

I don't think anyone with sway is out here pushing you rn. I would appreciate if you just help me solve the game.

I also was posting all of that prior to reading the day, but now I’ve caught up, and realize.

I’m gonna officially obvconftown myself.

Everyone, you are free to treat me as Math’s tertiary Mason.

@Math - I didn’t see the questions you asked. I’m gonna step away for a bit, but I’ll look for your response whenever I get the chance.

[Nero Cain]

it's how he was acting like he was willing to die and sacrifice himself while pushing malc at the same time

agree but I do think him sitting on what he felt like (knew b/c he's scum) was a mislim while not pushing for a frog wagon is ass. it goes back to what I said d2, he's just going with the past od least resistance.

[VP Baltar]

nah that's not what you said. you said he was promoting and pushing and supporting it.

He was supporting it! It's called tacit support. Which is exactly what I said. I find this semantics arguments with you to be the exact thing that was driving me up the wall about you before.

You are looking to score semantics points instead of looking at scum motivations to take ACTIONS. Actions are how you catch scum. This isn't debate class. This is murder.

[Nero Cain]

I do like your stuff about VP but you aren't out of the woods yet. You lost alot of your town cred when you supported Malcolm over VP.

[fireisredsir]

nah that's not what you said. you said he was promoting and pushing and supporting it.

He was supporting it! It's called tacit support. Which is exactly what I said. I find this semantics arguments with you to be the exact thing that was driving me up the wall about you before.

You are looking to score semantics points instead of looking at scum motivations to take ACTIONS. Actions are how you catch scum. This isn't debate class. This is murder.

but im not really even saying you're scum for being wrong. im just saying you're wrong. but i mean if you insist, it actually is pretty scummy to make claims about why someone is scum when those claims are unsupported, and then when you're called out on that, to walk it back and pretend you were saying something else.

please explain how tacit support is "the same exact thing he did with Wu" and how his "iso is full of him saying Malcom is a good possible lim, until it is happening, then he wants nothing to do with it". i see the opposite. malc wagon is never his favorite, and near the end of day is when he's most vocally okay with it bc he thinks scum pushed it and he wants to catch them. so... the opposite of what you said.

[fireisredsir]

I do like your stuff about VP but you aren't out of the woods yet. You lost alot of your town cred when you supported Malcolm over VP.

it's ok tho cause we win the game off of it

[VP Baltar]

. i see the opposite. malc wagon is never his favorite, and near the end of day is when he's most vocally okay with it bc he thinks scum pushed it and he wants to catch them. so... the opposite of what you said.

No, it's not the opposite. The point is that Nero does things to support wagons, implicitly or explicitly, doesn't actually vote there, and then claims all the scum are on those wagons. Telling other people to flip Malcom because he thinks scum are on it is encouraging a wagon. It's just doing so without taking any risk.

Let me put this a different way to you to maybe open your mind a little bit: what has Nero actually done this game apart from claim I'm scum despite all counter evidence? Who is he seriously pushing? Who is he willing to risk his reputation on the flip of? If the answer is no one, that should be a warning sign to you. This is what I mean about actions.

[Nero Cain]

Who is he willing to risk his reputation on the flip of? If the answer is no one

So you are no one?

I offered to 1v1 today but you are scared to do so.

[tenebrousluminary]

It's suspicious that the neighborhood is even still in use given how much everyone in it hates each other.

[Nero Cain]

I don't know how this game got worse overnight

[VP Baltar]

It's suspicious that the neighborhood is even still in use given how much everyone in it hates each other.

I love everyone, not my fault Nero rolled scum.

[VP Baltar]

Who is he willing to risk his reputation on the flip of? If the answer is no one

So you are no one?

I offered to 1v1 today but you are scared to do so.

Yeah man, you're proving my point. Your play is 1-dimensional. You're using me as a crutch because it is safe. You're not scumhunting.

[DeasVail]

I’m not reading properly, but also this

I don't know how this game got worse overnight

[MathBlade]

So while I’ll fight for my defense, if I use some empathy for other townies, I can’t disagree that I’m not a good fade.

I actually find it weirder you are doing this whole woe is me thing. Feels like acting.

I don't think anyone with sway is out here pushing you rn. I would appreciate if you just help me solve the game.

I also was posting all of that prior to reading the day, but now I’ve caught up, and realize.

I’m gonna officially obvconftown myself.

Everyone, you are free to treat me as Math’s tertiary Mason.

@Math - I didn’t see the questions you asked. I’m gonna step away for a bit, but I’ll look for your response whenever I get the chance.

This requires me to trust you. It’s taking everything I have to go after VP/Galron right now instead of you.

[Titus]

Smh.

Math, your reads are terrible. You're speculating about possibilities just to keep Galron as a suspect today. VP doesn't open like that as scum imo. He left citations, so almost everything he said is verifiable.

I don't think any of VP Galron or April are scum.

[MathBlade]

Smh.

Math, your reads are terrible. You're speculating about possibilities just to keep Galron as a suspect today. VP doesn't open like that as scum imo. He left citations, so almost everything he said is verifiable.

I don't think any of VP Galron or April are scum.

IMO your reads are terrible and you’re in my solve.

Why do you say VP doesn’t do citations as scum? Have you played with scum him?

Why did you dodge my questions to you? I am not hyperposting so shouldn’t be hard to find

[Titus]

Question chain for Titus/April especially but anyone who wishes to answer: is my theorizing Scum have a traitor based on Yeet flip sound? If yes, would it be likely traitor + 1 scum in the hood?

This reminds me of my busted traitor game I had where I had a hood with one scum buddy and I was traitor.

This has that “feel”.

I figured by my last post, that I felt considering a traitor is garbage.

[MathBlade]

Yeet

has been found dead. He was a

Town 3-Shot Psychologist

Yeet

You are a

Town 3-Shot Psychologist

Each day you may talk in the game thread and vote on who to eliminate.

Three times during the game you may visit a player at night to investigate their ability to kill. Assuming no interference, you will be informed "PLAYERNAME is capable of killing.", "PLAYERNAME is not capable of killing or has already killed.", or "You got no result from investigating PLAYERNAME." at the end of the night. Players capable of killing are members of the

Mafia

other than

Traitors

,

Serial Killers

and

Vigilantes

who have not yet killed

You win when all threats to the town are dead, and at least 1 town aligned player is alive.

The game thread is here, please confirm your role and alignment via pm.

….
Traitors is specifically in Yeet’s role PM

Odds of traitor or SK increase greatly.

[Titus]

Why do you say VP doesn’t do citations as scum? Have you played with scum him?

It's not just a single cutation and not a meta argument. It's a gamestate one. The fact we are losing PRs like flies and only getting miseliminations is very demoralizing. It would be easy to phone it in rather than try hard. After all, scum haven't needed to do much. With you leading, they still don't.

[MathBlade]

Why do you say VP doesn’t do citations as scum? Have you played with scum him?

It's not just a single cutation and not a meta argument. It's a gamestate one. The fact we are losing PRs like flies and only getting miseliminations is very demoralizing. It would be easy to phone it in rather than try hard. After all, scum haven't needed to do much. With you leading, they still don't.

Lmao that’s a joke.

I never have been able to lead

It’s everyone else saying I suck then taking over

[MathBlade]

The gamestate sucks because scum have been in control over conf town
Every fucking day

My spoons are like zero and you saying I was in control when I barely dodged prods is factually wrong and absurd