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[MathBlade]

Nah what other people will do is clear

It’s ignore math

Make me the patsy when it all goes to shit and get called bad and wrong without substantiation

We need people to actually follow the fucking mason to an elim which would happen if it was anyone but me

You seem to have forgotten that we did run up Galron before he was semi-cleared.

1) He’s not clear
2) He’s not been flipped
3) He’s scum

I cannot work with someone who has no interest in my thoughts any more than you feel you can do the same.

You’re not interested in mine

You labeled him as clear already.

So you’ve labeled me as wrong before I began.

It’s the same damn hole and problem.

[tenebrousluminary]

As a Mason you do get more say than the rest of us but that does not make you king.

You’re right I do get more say
And that has been fucking ignored all game

My point was that it hasn't. We listened to you about Galron until the available evidence changed. I am sorry that you are having trouble factoring in that evidence but I am not going to pretend it does not exist.

[tenebrousluminary]

Nah what other people will do is clear

It’s ignore math

Make me the patsy when it all goes to shit and get called bad and wrong without substantiation

We need people to actually follow the fucking mason to an elim which would happen if it was anyone but me

You seem to have forgotten that we did run up Galron before he was semi-cleared.

1) He’s not clear
2) He’s not been flipped
3) He’s scum

I cannot work with someone who has no interest in my thoughts any more than you feel you can do the same.

You’re not interested in mine

You labeled him as clear already.

So you’ve labeled me as wrong before I began.

It’s the same damn hole and problem.

I literally said semi.

He could be scum but pursuing higher probability targets right now is fundamentally correct.

[MathBlade]

As a Mason you do get more say than the rest of us but that does not make you king.

You’re right I do get more say
And that has been fucking ignored all game

My point was that it hasn't. We listened to you about Galron until the available evidence changed. I am sorry that you are having trouble factoring in that evidence but I am not going to pretend it does not exist.

And I disagree with your point.

If we had actually not had me fight for control we’d have Galron’s likely scum flip here.

Town Galron posts and scum Galron doesn’t. It’s blatant.

[MathBlade]

And hell like I said if you disagree with that Nero or Cape or VP should be the elim

Asking me to elim town is silly and I won’t support it.

[MathBlade]

We’ve had 5000 posts for “thoughts”

We need a fucking PoE and a scum elim.

[the worst]

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Titus (2): fireisredsir, MathBlade

[E-6]

Eyes without a face (2): Cape90, tenebrousluminary

[E-6]

April Ludgate (1): Save The Dragons
Frogsterking (1): VP Baltar
VP Baltar (1): Nero Cain

Not Voting (8): Frogsterking, Scorpious, DeasVail, Titus, Enchant, Galron, Eyes without a face, April Ludgate

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[tenebrousluminary]

And hell like I said if you disagree with that Nero or Cape or VP should be the elim

Asking me to elim town is silly and I won’t support it.

I don't subscribe to the setup speculation that is leading you here.

[Titus]

Are you positing the scumteam claimed they were in a neighborhood D1? If not, there's town in your list. In fact, half town probably at least even in your setup.

Second, Math persuasion is not about control but cooperation. Town can discuss their reads but a solid townblock has different skills that come together for the ultimate prize. A good leader looks for people who are willing to discuss but disagree. A good town leader doesn't seek control to push their answer.

See Titus v. Alisae

[MathBlade]

And hell like I said if you disagree with that Nero or Cape or VP should be the elim

Asking me to elim town is silly and I won’t support it.

I don't subscribe to the setup speculation that is leading you here.

So you think town has
4 person fake masonry
A fake guilty in a vig
And a two town masonry

Yeah just no
That doesn’t pass a review

[Titus]

VOTE: DV

Tend/VP, let's do this.

[MathBlade]

Are you positing the scumteam claimed they were in a neighborhood D1? If not, there's town in your list. In fact, half town probably at least even in your setup.

Second, Math persuasion is not about control but cooperation. Town can discuss their reads but a solid townblock has different skills that come together for the ultimate prize. A good leader looks for people who are willing to discuss but disagree. A good town leader doesn't seek control to push their answer.

See Titus v. Alisae

I tried cooperating yesterday

I got made fun of and bad

So this is the only option left is repetitive

[MathBlade]

You being conf town means you have the spot of everyone trying to appease you to get town read, Math, meaning that there's likely going to be some gaps from scum actively putting effort into not getting put on the conf town's naughty list.

It’s posts like this over and over

Where I am inherently wrong because mason or me

And I am sick of that

[fireisredsir]

VOTE: DV

Tend/VP, let's do this.

why not eyes? he has 2 votes already and he was one of your top scumreads, right?

[MathBlade]

So if you say I am wrong bring receipts

Explain how that setup passes review or vote in that hood

It’s the same problem I had in the game I just got out of

I was right in scum bussed

But I was shut out because “Math”

There is scum in that hood.

Argue all you want on who, but at least one scum is in it.

[Titus]

As a mason, you have to be open to possibilities that you are wrong. The more you tunnel, the less influence you have because people know it's not from a guilty and it makes your posts look more like desperation than evidence. Chill out. Enjoy the game. Play mind tricks on people. You can take risks and engage in scummy behavior to get reads. Abuse the conftown privilege there.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Galron

If you all are going to look in majority town I am at least leaving my vote as a protest one.

Good night

[Titus]

VOTE: DV

Tend/VP, let's do this.

why not eyes? he has 2 votes already and he was one of your top scumreads, right?

I missed that.

VOTE: eyes

[MathBlade]

As a mason, you have to be open to possibilities that you are wrong. The more you tunnel, the less influence you have because people know it's not from a guilty and it makes your posts look more like desperation than evidence. Chill out. Enjoy the game. Play mind tricks on people. You can take risks and engage in scummy behavior to get reads. Abuse the conftown privilege there.

That’s what yesterday was and I was brutally ignored

If cooperating and discussion doesn’t work what the hell else is there?

Everyone just says no and does something else

There’s no discussion to be had

Do your dumb shit I have to be up in 4-5 hours

[Titus]

Can you at least give an opinion of eyes when you wake up Math?

[MathBlade]

Can you at least give an opinion of eyes when you wake up Math?

Town good night

[Titus]

Can you at least give an opinion of eyes when you wake up Math?

Town good night

Ok an opinion with reasons. Please don't sass me. I'm trying here.

[MathBlade]

Serious question: Are we looking for scum or are we looking for things we don't like in each other's playstyles? because it seems to me everybody has been looking on the game from their own perspective and how the other should be playing not whether the other is making something that looks like it's scum driven.

Also everybody (in general and not just in this game) assume they are smart and everybody else is dumb. "scum will push this and not that" may only work if -say- someone is being tricky, but I don't think having a different opinion or changing one's opinion or some other shit that every player does regardless of their alignment qualifies as a reason to scum read someone.

@Deas: regarding 3702 what would you have done in that situation? Imagine that you were not being pushed at one point and then the tide changes and you are the leading wagon. Would you still sit back and relax or would you try to at least defend yourself? I think we both know the answer to that and that -again- is regardless of the color of your PM.

Scum doesn’t write this when winning

[MathBlade]

Serious question: Are we looking for scum or are we looking for things we don't like in each other's playstyles? because it seems to me everybody has been looking on the game from their own perspective and how the other should be playing not whether the other is making something that looks like it's scum driven.

Also everybody (in general and not just in this game) assume they are smart and everybody else is dumb. "scum will push this and not that" may only work if -say- someone is being tricky, but I don't think having a different opinion or changing one's opinion or some other shit that every player does regardless of their alignment qualifies as a reason to scum read someone.

@Deas: regarding 3702 what would you have done in that situation? Imagine that you were not being pushed at one point and then the tide changes and you are the leading wagon. Would you still sit back and relax or would you try to at least defend yourself? I think we both know the answer to that and that -again- is regardless of the color of your PM.

This is a good post.

Here dead town agreeing with me

[tenebrousluminary]

So if you say I am wrong bring receipts

Explain how that setup passes review or vote in that hood

I am not aware of any rules governing the alignments of neighbors. If there is one, please point me to it.

There is no "fake" masonry. That is not what neighbors are.