Large Normal 238 | Weiqi, Baduk, Go | Endgame

[Titus]

*scummiest slot on the wagon.

[Nero Cain]

to bus or not to bus, it a hard q isn't it?

[Titus]

I mean it's possible Nero could be scum playing up the pride angle. It's possible fire is chainsawing for eyes and wanting to break up me and VP working together. It's possible tene got caught reaching to not protect yeet. It's possible Enchant is not a vig and lying.

None of these things feel especially likely. Multiple need to be true in order for this to be true.

I need to reset somewhere unless all the town on VP are agency captured.

[Titus]

*this to be true=scum pushing VP.

[fireisredsir]

to bus or not to bus, it a hard q isn't it?

i think bussing was the play but maybe she thinks that it was so clearly the play that people will TR her for not doing it

or she's just cocky and thinks her and VP can argue their way out of it

[MathBlade]

1) Why wouldn't scum just force Galron through until yeet was forced to claim, thus verifying the investigation result? If Enchant is town and honestly telling, then they net a dead Galron and possibly a dead yeet/blocked yeet and dead Math?

Because if I am right Galron is scum and they won’t know how or why Yeet thinks inno

Could be Galron did the kill N1 as disposable scum
Or he’s traitor and didn’t want to risk it.

Then if they force Yeet to claim when Galron flips town learns a lot

Let's slow down and unpack this.

If Galron was the traitor, then scum would have to know that and know yeet's result would be a good one. That is unlikely given how few posts Galron had d1. A traitor communication would have been spotted. Maybe it was before he came in but it'd have to be there. Then, they'd have to assume yeet cleared a player they're assuming to be bad.

If Galron did the n1 kill as "disposable scum", then this also makes suppositions. 1) That scum would infer that he wouldn't be blocked or 2) He's a goon with PRs and there's no multitasking. and 3) no one else fits better. That's still assumptions to make. They'd also have to assume yeet got a clear that shouldn't be true. They don't know his role.

Occam's Razor applies here.

If Galron is traitor scum may not know that.

Rest is invalid fruit of poisonous tre

N1 it’s common for not read TRs or abilities don’t want to use yet to make kills.
That’s all the a group scum kill by Galron means

[Titus]

I know I'm undercutting my attempt to investigate what happens if Nero v VP is a thing though. I need a strategy to figure out what is going on with VP and sort between scum push, agency captured town, or I am wrong

[Titus]

Math, without referencing the hood/mechanics/votes, can you detail why VP is scum to you?

[MathBlade]

Math, without referencing the hood/mechanics/votes, can you detail why VP is scum to you?

He can’t or doesn’t accurately state what I am saying as it goes against his narrative.

I have lost count of how many times I have had to correct him

[MathBlade]

VP’s play just is all around atrocious

Combined with HEM scumread as well

It fits

[Titus]

to bus or not to bus, it a hard q isn't it?

i think bussing was the play but maybe she thinks that it was so clearly the play that people will TR her for not doing it

or she's just cocky and thinks her and VP can argue their way out of it

*side eye*

Assumes facts not in evidence. If VP flips scum, then I get FoSing me. I mean it requires diverting from eyes town to draw the spotlight onto my partner without verifying I'd have support before dismantling the eyes wagon. But extreme reluctance to vote and hard defense of scum on a likely largely driven town wagon would make me look bad.

VP I just haven't heard anything that I feel persuaded by. I'm listening and trying to work with Math but this elimination feels wrong.

[Titus]

VP’s play just is all around atrocious

Combined with HEM scumread as well

It fits

I need more than just conclusions. Talk to me like fire has please.

[MathBlade]

Why does it feel wrong? Iirc you’re the one that said there’s more than feelings?

[MathBlade]

VP’s play just is all around atrocious

Combined with HEM scumread as well

It fits

I need more than just conclusions. Talk to me like fire has please.

I mean just recently VP has been demonstrated false

Galron whatever alignment you say they are admitted to fabricating reads

VP’s defense of that was just so bad

[fireisredsir]

But extreme reluctance to vote and hard defense of scum on a likely largely driven town wagon would make me look bad.

yes it will. that's why i called it bold, i respect it tbh

[MathBlade]

Sigh....I kind of like fua for this exchange with fire.

Also I think Malcom is town.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: HEM

Maybe the best approach here is dueling HEM and Wu wagons since that seems to be a divide that is shaping up and I could see a world where either flips scum.

[Titus]

Why does it feel wrong? Iirc you’re the one that said there’s more than feelings?

Right. I agree with most of his wall but minus a few conclusions. I feel he's taking chances and risks to save town. I haven't read D1 but leaders on D1 are usually town unless scum really need a shakeup. Given later days, that's not likely. I've engaged with fire to where I partially see his points but I feel fire assumes scum play like he would when there's multiple ways to go about things.

I'd like you to engage me like Fire has.

[Titus]

But extreme reluctance to vote and hard defense of scum on a likely largely driven town wagon would make me look bad.

yes it will. that's why i called it bold, i respect it tbh

This is the oddest suspicion in ages. It reminds me of the old fear Titus scum that both alignments used but you've never played with me during that era unless you're an alt.

[MathBlade]

Hood people what happened in your hood overnight?

Nero pushed me to talk about reads. I told him I'm not doing that in a hood with a potential scum, and that it was kinda antitown to push it repeatedly.

That was all.

I doubt the hood is gonna get used much until we descum it

Doesn’t wanna de scum the hood

[MathBlade]

Why does it feel wrong? Iirc you’re the one that said there’s more than feelings?

Right. I agree with most of his wall but minus a few conclusions. I feel he's taking chances and risks to save town. I haven't read D1 but leaders on D1 are usually town unless scum really need a shakeup. Given later days, that's not likely. I've engaged with fire to where I partially see his points but I feel fire assumes scum play like he would when there's multiple ways to go about things.

I'd like you to engage me like Fire has.

That’s what I am doing

You said don’t use 3/4ths of the reasons to scum or TR someone and said to answer your question

So I am

[Titus]

Why does it feel wrong? Iirc you’re the one that said there’s more than feelings?

Right. I agree with most of his wall but minus a few conclusions. I feel he's taking chances and risks to save town. I haven't read D1 but leaders on D1 are usually town unless scum really need a shakeup. Given later days, that's not likely. I've engaged with fire to where I partially see his points but I feel fire assumes scum play like he would when there's multiple ways to go about things.

I'd like you to engage me like Fire has.

That’s what I am doing

You said don’t use 3/4ths of the reasons to scum or TR someone and said to answer your question

So I am

Can you slow down and combine into one post? It's hard to follow your train of thought.

[fireisredsir]

But extreme reluctance to vote and hard defense of scum on a likely largely driven town wagon would make me look bad.

yes it will. that's why i called it bold, i respect it tbh

This is the oddest suspicion in ages. It reminds me of the old fear Titus scum that both alignments used but you've never played with me during that era unless you're an alt.

its not a suspicion of you. my suspicion is unrelated to this. i was just having fun with nero commenting about what you're doing

[MathBlade]

Why does it feel wrong? Iirc you’re the one that said there’s more than feelings?

Right. I agree with most of his wall but minus a few conclusions. I feel he's taking chances and risks to save town. I haven't read D1 but leaders on D1 are usually town unless scum really need a shakeup. Given later days, that's not likely. I've engaged with fire to where I partially see his points but I feel fire assumes scum play like he would when there's multiple ways to go about things.

I'd like you to engage me like Fire has.

That’s what I am doing

You said don’t use 3/4ths of the reasons to scum or TR someone and said to answer your question

So I am

Can you slow down and combine into one post? It's hard to follow your train of thought.

I did

You said to engage you like fire is

So I am one reason at a time

Like wtf?

His Malcolm progression is horrible and is just saving his own butt

He said he won’t use the hood until it is de scummed

This is bad hood play which you Titus would disagree with because when town you love them

But yet he doesn’t ever want to elim in the hood

The cog dissonance is real

Then there’s the never states my points right either

[Titus]

But extreme reluctance to vote and hard defense of scum on a likely largely driven town wagon would make me look bad.

yes it will. that's why i called it bold, i respect it tbh

This is the oddest suspicion in ages. It reminds me of the old fear Titus scum that both alignments used but you've never played with me during that era unless you're an alt.

its not a suspicion of you. my suspicion is unrelated to this. i was just having fun with nero commenting about what you're doing

Well at least you're having fun being wrong. A lot of times people get heated and angry when wrong on me. Nero and I have had some pretty gnarly fights in the past.

[fireisredsir]

i always have fun!!