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Post Post #5600 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:17 pm

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In post 5597, fireisredsir wrote:titus is pushing for a vp flip over a Nero one despite the wagons being close at 5-4, probably bc both are town and she knows a vp flip will make her look better than a Nero one
In what world are both Nero and I town? Highly unlikely
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Post Post #5601 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:17 pm

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In post 5596, Titus wrote:
In post 5590, fireisredsir wrote:titus prob just TMIing, and yet still pushing for vp to get limmed

can we just get this instead
I'm not pushing for VP to get eliminated. I just can't herd cattle to get any of my suspects wagoned. I'd literally vote any of them to save my town core. That's Mama Bear.
you aren't even voting for any of them. You are 100% trying to lim me over VP. You don't care about flipping scum, you care about saving VP.
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Post Post #5602 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:17 pm

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In post 5405, DeasVail wrote:My heart is on the VP wagon but I want to actually read up before doing that.
For instance.
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Post Post #5603 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:18 pm

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If my reads were perfect (hint: they're not) I would only lim between Scorpious, Datisi/Titus, tenebrousluminary, Frogsterking today.

Maybe I should make a stance now?

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Post Post #5604 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:18 pm

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In post 5601, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5596, Titus wrote:
In post 5590, fireisredsir wrote:titus prob just TMIing, and yet still pushing for vp to get limmed

can we just get this instead
I'm not pushing for VP to get eliminated. I just can't herd cattle to get any of my suspects wagoned. I'd literally vote any of them to save my town core. That's Mama Bear.
you aren't even voting for any of them. You are 100% trying to lim me over VP. You don't care about flipping scum, you care about saving VP.
Literally everyone else besides Math or Galron is scummier to me so far.
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Post Post #5605 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:19 pm

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VOTE: frogster

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Post Post #5606 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:19 pm

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In post 5600, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 5597, fireisredsir wrote:titus is pushing for a vp flip over a Nero one despite the wagons being close at 5-4, probably bc both are town and she knows a vp flip will make her look better than a Nero one
In what world are both Nero and I town? Highly unlikely
the one where titus is maf and nero agrees with me that she is, and she positions herself to look good on your flip but only if you're town
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Post Post #5607 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:19 pm

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VOTE: frogster
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Post Post #5608 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:20 pm

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In post 5606, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 5600, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 5597, fireisredsir wrote:titus is pushing for a vp flip over a Nero one despite the wagons being close at 5-4, probably bc both are town and she knows a vp flip will make her look better than a Nero one
In what world are both Nero and I town? Highly unlikely
the one where titus is maf and nero agrees with me that she is, and she positions herself to look good on your flip but only if you're town
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Post Post #5609 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:20 pm

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In post 5604, Titus wrote:
In post 5601, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5596, Titus wrote:
In post 5590, fireisredsir wrote:titus prob just TMIing, and yet still pushing for vp to get limmed

can we just get this instead
I'm not pushing for VP to get eliminated. I just can't herd cattle to get any of my suspects wagoned. I'd literally vote any of them to save my town core. That's Mama Bear.
you aren't even voting for any of them. You are 100% trying to lim me over VP. You don't care about flipping scum, you care about saving VP.
Literally everyone else besides Math or Galron is scummier to me so far.
Forgot I won't do Enchant today either but oh well.
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Post Post #5610 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:22 pm

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Are scumreading eyes are not popular anymore and everyone sheep instead...
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Post Post #5611 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:22 pm

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In post 4952, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4946, fireisredsir wrote:why is everyone ignoring that psychologists get negative results on people who have already killed and therefore do not necessarily imply that there is a traitor

i wouldn't be THAT surprised to see a traitor but eh
or maybe I'm not understanding? Team mafia would still retain their kill ability and "would get is capable of killing." It would be JOATS and x-shot vigs/sks (and town and mafia traitor) that would get is "not capable of killing or has already killed."
Why wouldn't you just head to the wiki and check how the role works??

A Psychologist can investigate one player for unused kills each night. Only three results can be obtained from this investigation: Negative, Positive, or no result. This investigation resolves after any killing abilities in the Night phase.

A negative result is returned from players that are unable to actively kill another player, or on a player that has already killed.
A positive result is returned from players that can choose to kill, but have not done so.
The "no result" result is returned as a result of the action failing as a consequence of another role (e.g. a Roleblocker or Ascetic) interfering with it.
Roles like Paranoid Gun Owner, who have passive kills, give negative results because they have no active kill. Likewise, a Mafia Traitor has no kill and thus will produce a negative result; a Vigilante will produce a positive result before it makes its first kill.

And if you're still confused reread the last sentence: a Vigilante will produce a positive result
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Post Post #5612 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:23 pm

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In post 5610, Enchant wrote:Are scumreading eyes are not popular anymore and everyone sheep instead...
I'm just saving VP. I'd kill anyone but you Galron or Math to do it.
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Post Post #5613 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:23 pm

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In post 4954, fireisredsir wrote:someone from the mafia team always carries out the kill, right? the person who did would then show up neg to a psychologist. i thought that was like the whole idea behind the role

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It does however have a drawback: if a player has already killed, the Psychologist can no longer discern whether this player is capable of doing so.
That's an even better quote
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Post Post #5614 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:23 pm

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titus behavior here just makes no sense from town pov. she's not solving. it's all positioning and political

april pls come back
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Post Post #5615 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:25 pm

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In post 5612, Titus wrote:
In post 5610, Enchant wrote:Are scumreading eyes are not popular anymore and everyone sheep instead...
I'm just saving VP. I'd kill anyone but you Galron or Math to do it.
Didn't vote STD when i voted them
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Post Post #5616 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:25 pm

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In post 5614, fireisredsir wrote:titus behavior here just makes no sense from town pov. she's not solving. it's all positioning and political

april pls come back
No. I have solved a chunk of the game. VP April Galron Math and Enchant are my core even if they don't or can't work together. I think that's enough to trap scum, even a deep wolf.
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Post Post #5617 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:26 pm

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I was getting discouraged after Yeet's flip that I wasn't contributing to the game but now that a bunch of sketch slots are trying to force a wagon on me I think I must be doing something right.
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Post Post #5618 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:26 pm

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In post 5615, Enchant wrote:
In post 5612, Titus wrote:
In post 5610, Enchant wrote:Are scumreading eyes are not popular anymore and everyone sheep instead...
I'm just saving VP. I'd kill anyone but you Galron or Math to do it.
Didn't vote STD when i voted them
Nero had momentum. When VP voted Frogester that kills the Nero wagon and gives momentum to Frogster
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Post Post #5619 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:28 pm

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Titus, you keep calling VP town but I don't think you've ever explained why.
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Post Post #5620 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:29 pm

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VP asked me to answer his questions repeatedly then ducked out when I actually did.
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Post Post #5621 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:30 pm

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In post 5619, Nero Cain wrote:Titus, you keep calling VP town but I don't think you've ever explained why.
I've literally responded to every case on him, detailed how and why I agree with his case at start of day (just that I'd emphasize different things (I doubt you Frogster and StD is the team). I detailed why I feel VP makes most of the plays he does as town. I engaged Fire's repeated suggestions of VP scum.
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Post Post #5622 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:31 pm

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In post 5619, Nero Cain wrote:Titus, you keep calling VP town but I don't think you've ever explained why.
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Post Post #5623 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:32 pm

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In post 5618, Titus wrote:Nero had momentum. When VP voted Frogester that kills the Nero wagon and gives momentum to Frogster
Frog wasn't even in your solve. I have the same issue with both of you guys where you vote wherever the least resistance is. Also not scum reading me while voting me while I had "momentum" is disingenuous.
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Post Post #5624 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:32 pm

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In post 5620, Frogsterking wrote:VP asked me to answer his questions repeatedly then ducked out when I actually did.
Where did he do this?

Why are you voting no one?
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