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[Scorpious]

VOTE: Frog

Sleep..

[Frogsterking]

you could be right on deas but VP is only a push again b/c him and a bunch of others tried to save him and succeded. He's not town.

but wouldn't he self if he was srs about not wanting to play?

VOTE: VP Baltar

Yeah I thought VP had some kind of an agenda behind asking me to vote him but not self voting. Now though I think maybe it was just reverse psychology.

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I've got in order from most to least right now:

Town:
Math
Galron
Enchant
Nero
Cape
Fire
Townlean:
Scorpius
Luminary
Null:
Dragons
April
Scum lean:
Eyes
Titus
Dease
Scum:
VP

I do think my wagon is packed with scum trying to keep VP alive, and there's at least 1 scum taking the opposite side against VP.

PEdit: Wow maybe I should have stuck my foot in my mouth instead of defending Scorpius!

[fireisredsir]

yes frog it prob is deas

[fireisredsir]

let's just not end day and wait for april to come back. i can't lead for shit

[DeasVail]

I think the way that Frogster is pushing me is pretty towny

[Enchant]

Good morning!

I think the way that Frogster is pushing me is pretty towny

How?

[DeasVail]

let's just not end day and wait for april to come back. i can't lead for shit

Also apologies if you have covered this elsewhere (and feel free to link to a relevant post if you have), but how strongly do you think April is town? (Fwiw I have to sort my reads still. My Day 2 read was town, but some posts that I've skimmed from Day 3 seemed a bit questionable and I want to look more closely)

As for day decisions etc. weekends are generally just a more busy time for me (this one particularly so because partner's birthday etc.) and I would like the opportunity to be able to feel more "on top of" the game and clarify reads. I felt strongly that VP was scum during Day 2 and seeing him as a lead wagon here feels good, I can't lie about that, but I have this feeling of wanting to "make sure" that my read on him is scum, if that makes sense.

PEdit:

Well tbh I think Frogsterking is right that I'm probably not actually playing outside of my scumrange. I mean, I don't think the concept of a "scumrange" is the right way to read me, rather than just... different approaches that I would take as scum versus as town. BUT, I don't think there would be that much benefit to Frogsterking as scum to do research and bring up what's probably my most recent proper scumgame from 2019 and keep talking about how they think that more people should be looking at my game. To me, it just

feels

like town seeing someone that they don't think has done anything towny, just skating on by without getting attention. Scum would know I'm town, and would be more likely to assume that people aren't pushing me because I'm actually doing townie things. Maybe Frogster-scum would test the waters a little by mentioning me as possible scum and seeing if anyone else bites. But the repeated "I really think we should be talking about Deas y'all!!!" comes across as uninformed, with the thought of "this person could TOTALLY be scum, why isn't anyone else seeing it????".

Reads like this for me are also player-dependent fwiw. Someone like VP, or April or Nero I would probably more expect to do a push like that as scum (though still probably in a different way from what Frogster is doing it), but the way that Frogster is doing it just does not fit with what I expect from scum.

[DeasVail]

Frogster, did you look at any town games of mine as well or just the scum game?

[VP Baltar]

Well tbh I think Frogsterking is right that I'm probably not actually playing outside of my scumrange.

Didn't you just give me shit because you think there is no way I should have you in my null pile?

[VP Baltar]

but wouldn't he self if he was srs about not wanting to play?

I don't self vote. Maybe you should try to get me modkilled again.

[VP Baltar]

Cause that's a very town move.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: April Come post if you want this removed.

[Nero Cain]

I lowkey feel like Boon is just "giving up" in the hopes that we lim him instead of VP...again.

[MathBlade]

I lowkey feel like Boon is just "giving up" in the hopes that we lim him instead of VP...again.

Then we get a scum elim. If Boon doesn’t post we get a scum elim first then can sort VP. Who probably flips scum if April is.

I don’t like Boon is just gone.

[VP Baltar]

I don’t like Boon is just gone.

Agree with this actually. Seems atypical

[MathBlade]

MalcolmTucker (9): Eyes without a face,

Yeet

, April Ludgate, Scorpious,

Galron

, VP Baltar, Titus, fireisredsir,

MathBlade

the 4 scum are here.

I'm giving scorp some leeway since he's tene's town read he's just sorta LHF that scum could try to mislim.

but between April, VP, Eyes, Titus and Fire is prob the scum team.

There are never 4 scum on this wagon.
2-3 max.

Btw I think exactly 3

[VP Baltar]

Btw I think exactly 3

Can I ask who you think those three are if I'm town? I feel like so much of your gameview is dependent on me flipping scum, and that's just not going to happen. So let's get to a point where you are thinking beyond that after you see me flip today.

[MathBlade]

The three I think are involves you scum.

[Titus]

Math, quick question, how many bad guys do you think there are?

[VP Baltar]

The three I think are involves you scum.

Right, but im telling you that you're 100% wrong. So like, let's work on next steps here

[Titus]

That's not something he's going to be capable of. We just have to do it VP.

How many bad guys do you think there are? Not who, just how many.

[VP Baltar]

How many bad guys do you think there are?

Me? Or math?

[MathBlade]

Math, quick question, how many bad guys do you think there are?

4-5

[Titus]

How many bad guys do you think there are?

Me? Or math?

Both. I'm thinking about what to do next.

[Titus]

Math, quick question, how many bad guys do you think there are?

4-5

Yes but which. :/ One gives us two miseliminations while the other gives 3.