Large Normal 238 | Weiqi, Baduk, Go | Endgame

[VP Baltar]

How many bad guys do you think there are?

Me? Or math?

Both. I'm thinking about what to do next.

Looking at what has been revealed so far about town power, and if you assume Enchant is a town vig being RBed, then 4. More than that would seem OP for scum is my guess.

[Titus]

How many bad guys do you think there are?

Me? Or math?

Both. I'm thinking about what to do next.

Looking at what has been revealed so far about town power, and if you assume Enchant is a town vig being RBed, then 4. More than that would seem OP for scum is my guess.

We have masons, an investigative and a vig. I'm leaning 5 because in most setup runs conftown would quickly outnumber scum. I'm wanting to check my work.

[VP Baltar]

How many bad guys do you think there are?

Me? Or math?

Both. I'm thinking about what to do next.

Looking at what has been revealed so far about town power, and if you assume Enchant is a town vig being RBed, then 4. More than that would seem OP for scum is my guess.

We have masons, an investigative and a vig. I'm leaning 5 because in most setup runs conftown would quickly outnumber scum. I'm wanting to check my work.

Yeah, but there is also the hood, which has been poisoned fruit imo. A vig is not necessarily +town either unless someone is using it correctly.

[Nero Cain]

There's no way you legit think there are 5 scum. At least VP is trying to look uninformed.

[VP Baltar]

There's no way you legit think there are 5 scum. At least VP is trying to look uninformed.

What do you think is the scum motivation? What is the point of this shade?

[VP Baltar]

I know the traitor talk was popular earlier. So like would 4+1 be OP? I have rarely played with traitors, so I don't really know how they affect a setup balance.

[Nero Cain]

For trying to look uninformed? LAMIST

[VP Baltar]

For trying to look uninformed? LAMIST

Meh, that seems like a stretch.

[Nero Cain]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=88949

this game had 3 scum and a traitor. So this game is going to be exactly 4 team scum or 3 team scum + traitor.

Titus' 5 scum in a 19 player is incredibly fake.

[VP Baltar]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=88949

this game had 3 scum and a traitor. So this game is going to be exactly 4 team scum or 3 team scum + traitor.

Titus' 5 scum in a 19 player is incredibly fake.

There were also 3 vig in that game. That's going to be incredibly swingy. I don't think it's crazy to ask the question. I don't know how that question gets us closer to finding scum today either though. So seems pretty NAI to me.

[VP Baltar]

Nero, when I flip town, who is scum in the hood to you?

[Nero Cain]

cape

[Nero Cain]

but you aren't going to flip town so...

[VP Baltar]

cape

Why cape over galron?

[Nero Cain]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88192 was 3 in 15

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87720 4 in 16

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87368 4 in 17

[fireisredsir]

im bad at setup spec but 4 plus a traitor is possible imo

[VP Baltar]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88192 was 3 in 15

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87720 4 in 16

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87368 4 in 17

This doesn't prove 4 here though? Average scum balance is probably like 25%. 5 in 19 is like 27%.

Not saying that's what I think it is, but it's not an absurd consideration either.

[fireisredsir]

ive been assuming 4 so if it's 5 or 4+1 then that is uhhhh not good

[MathBlade]

How many bad guys do you think there are?

Me? Or math?

Both. I'm thinking about what to do next.

Looking at what has been revealed so far about town power, and if you assume Enchant is a town vig being RBed, then 4. More than that would seem OP for scum is my guess.

We have masons, an investigative and a vig. I'm leaning 5 because in most setup runs conftown would quickly outnumber scum. I'm wanting to check my work.

This is why scum has to be in the hood Titus. You’re so close

[Titus]

How many bad guys do you think there are?

Me? Or math?

Both. I'm thinking about what to do next.

Looking at what has been revealed so far about town power, and if you assume Enchant is a town vig being RBed, then 4. More than that would seem OP for scum is my guess.

We have masons, an investigative and a vig. I'm leaning 5 because in most setup runs conftown would quickly outnumber scum. I'm wanting to check my work.

This is why scum has to be in the hood Titus. You’re so close

If 5 scum, I'd have to agree but that idea was shot down. With 4 scum, I doubt it.

[tenebrousluminary]

Oh, so Galron is scum. Lol.

[VP Baltar]

ive been assuming 4 so if it's 5 or 4+1 then that is uhhhh not good

One thought I've had is that if there is a traitor type role in the hood and it is uninformed, it might help explain the difficulty of getting solid scum reads in the hood.

[Nero Cain]

cape

Why cape over galron?

dude keeps sniping @ me but is ignoring my comments and it sorta feels like he's just active lurking in this game. I felt like he's not scum b/c you are sorta buddying him in the hood. I know that Yeet said its not a clear inno but I'm putting maybe a little stock in it being an inno but you aren't flipping town so moot point.

[MathBlade]

Disagree with my VP and Galron reads fine

But there’s no way in a 19 P game
Scum have 2 masons with unseen communication
4 players with unseen communication
And a cop
And a vig

That’s a never passing review.

So scum has to be in that hood.

[Titus]

Oh, so Galron is scum. Lol.

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