Mini 2266: GnG's Upick Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Ginngie]

1.02 Votecount

Roden - 2 (jjh927, Titus) E - 5

PookyTheMagicalBear - 1 (Roden) E - 6

Yume - 1 (mastina) E - 6

mastina - 1 (Yume) E - 6

Not Voting - 8 (The one's not invited to my birthday party)

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to eliminated.

At deadline,

Roden

would be Eliminated.

Day One's deadline is Saturday, March 2rd, @ 10:00 PM EST: (expired on 2022-04-02 21:00:00).

Todays Challenge is: Every 5th post alternate each letter with capitalization (e.g. EvErY 5tH pOsT aLtErNaTe EaCh LeTtEr WiTh CaPiTaLiZaTiOn)
-your first post of each day must state if you'd like to participate using the bold tag.
-your first post of each day counts towards your post total. So bold tag is Post 1, then post 2-4, then post 5 is the important one.
-You may give up 0.25 xp to retry the challenge if either you fail to bold tag the first post or fail the challenge outright.
-Retries are limited to once per Day phase.

Spoiler: Players still in Challenge

jjh927
Yume
Titus
Dunnstral
PookyTheBear
Reinhardt
mastina
Roden

[mastina]

GeTtInG rId Of ThE rEsTrIcTiOn

Also, I am town. (Thankfully, I am allowed to not have it be literally every post, but saying it every post makes it better.)

1/5

(note to self that I need to make my 5/5 be "I aM tOwN" tho)

[jjh927]

Okay that's a funny PR and it's funnier how you're having to balance a 4 and a 5 post counter

Btw, guessing it wasn't just me who got 2 of my picks weirdly mashed together rather than any 1 of my picks

2

[Reinhardt]

I want it on record that I have never before received a role that is more in line with my skillset
3

Eh, my role's deserved--it's a tradition for me to submit trollish picks in Ginngie games and for Ginngie to then punish me for having done so. I do need to constantly say I am town (because I am in fact town), but the role itself is quite good imo.

I don't believe you.

You better tho since I am in fact town.

I would like to participate in the challenge.

Town?

I will participate

Scum. </3

3/5

My role could be described as one of the most brutal interpretations of a pick to date. So I believe what you are saying.

3

[Reinhardt]

I notice a couple things in the vote count post. First, the notation of how close someone is to being voted out seems to still be based on the “L-word”. Also, despite the rules saying simple majority is required to vote someone out, the vote count seems to indicate the person with most votes would be ejected at deadline.

4

[jjh927]

At deadline, Roden would be voted out.

Eliminations are based off simple majority (half the living players + 1, rounded down) voting to eliminate someone. If no majority is reached by deadline, or a simple majority votes no elimination, then a no elimination will occur. At evens, half the living players is sufficient to no elimination.

@Mod: think this is a discrepancy. The latest votecount indicates plurality, while the game rules indicate it is explicitly not plurality.

Also, Roden doesn't seem to be in the challenge list but I think he should be, and you might wanna use E-x on the votecount as that's the terminology now

PEdit: Looks like Reinhardt also noticed the same


3

[Reinhardt]

GeTtInG tHiS oUt Of ThE wAy.

5

[Ginngie]

I notice a couple things in the vote count post. First, the notation of how close someone is to being voted out seems to still be based on the “L-word”. Also, despite the rules saying simple majority is required to vote someone out, the vote count seems to indicate the person with most votes would be ejected at deadline.

4

@Mod: think this is a discrepancy. The latest votecount indicates plurality, while the game rules indicate it is explicitly not plurality.

Sorry for the confusion, I haven't hosted in a few years, keep finding mistakes in the old format using old language. Will replace L with E for Eliminated.

For clarity, the L is being replaced with E in accordance with site rules. The vote count is so far accurate. Just changing terminology.

Edit: Oh I'll use E-x then; thank you.

[jjh927]

Yeah, figured it's just teething problems

Saying people are E-1 etc was a pretty natural change

[jjh927]

OoPs, DiDn'T rEmEmBeR tO cOuNt

5

[jjh927]

Wait, so if the VC is accurate then

A. This day phase at minimum is plurality, probably due to a role of some kind
B. Roden is already out of the challenge somehow, or was never in it

Interesting

1

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am a one shot miller cuz i got a free mage perk

go me

[jjh927]

In that case, Pooky, tell us how it works.

The best bit is that if you're lying then we'll find out later

2

[Roden]

Wait, so if the VC is accurate then

A. This day phase at minimum is plurality, probably due to a role of some kind
B. Roden is already out of the challenge somehow, or was never in it

Interesting

1

It got updated, I'm still in it.

3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

In that case, Pooky, tell us how it works.

The best bit is that if you're lying then we'll find out later

2

it just means the first investigative ability used on me will give a positive result and only the first investigative ability so i should be fine later. it is my passive.

3

[Reinhardt]

In that case I will not be picking up the Miller unless I want the doctor ability from the Mage tree.

1

[Roden]

In that case I will not be picking up the Miller unless I want the doctor ability from the Mage tree.

1

Is there even any benefit to taking Doctor over Bulletproof Bodyguard? They both require the same amount of experience.

4

[Gypyx]

Hey there peoples, anyone interested in playing some quakeitch with me ? it's like soccer but on flying carpets and actually we don't care about the game and the winning team is just whoever of the 2 guys playing quake on the side of the field win the match

Warrior Tree	Sneak Tree	Mage Tree
1-shot Bullet Proof	1-shot Ninja	1-shot Miller
1-shot Body Guard	1-shot rolestop	1-shot doctor
1-shot Engineer	1-shot Engineer	1-shot Engineer

Cost:

1 XP

-You may buy from any tree at any time.
-Purchase order goes from the top row first to the bottom row last.
-After the 3 rows are filled you can spend

1 XP

to gain a 4th hidden ability.

From what we can see of the Warrior and Mage trees, the Mage tree seems to be strictly inferior to Warrior for the town. Not taking into account their hidden abilities, or any roles which may incline people towards picking made for other reasons.

Anyone want to claim to be going for Mage tree and becoming a miller?

2

enclined towards doin' that, but i'd say it's more up to the other peoples in the game to validate that choice than anything

I will participate

1

[Gypyx]

oh wait, i'm not in the challenge apparently, can you confirm that Ginngie?

[Gypyx]

VOTE: mastina

Lal

VOTE: Yume

while i'm at it

[Titus]

CaN We pReTeNd SoMeOnE's DoNe SoMeThInG tO gEt OuT oF rVs?

5

[Roden]

We CoUlD aDdReSs ThE eLePhAnT iN tHe RoOm

[Titus]

What is the elephant in the room?

1

[Dunnstral]

Spoiler:

Warrior Tree	Sneak Tree	Mage Tree
1-shot Bullet Proof	1-shot Ninja	1-shot Miller
1-shot Body Guard	1-shot rolestop	1-shot doctor
1-shot Engineer	1-shot Engineer	1-shot Engineer

Cost:

1 XP

-You may buy from any tree at any time.
-Purchase order goes from the top row first to the bottom row last.
-After the 3 rows are filled you can spend

1 XP

to gain a 4th hidden ability.

From what we can see of the Warrior and Mage trees, the Mage tree seems to be strictly inferior to Warrior for the town. Not taking into account their hidden abilities, or any roles which may incline people towards picking made for other reasons.

Anyone want to claim to be going for Mage tree and becoming a miller?

2

What if everybody dipped into the warrior tree and became 1-shot bulletproof?

Going to be hard for mafia to kill anybody. Any strongman type abilities would likely be limited.

3

Here is what I think optimal play is for the town:

The majority of town should dip into the warrior tree for the 1-shot bulletproof. This should cause at least a few kills to fail, maybe not immediately if mafia has strongman abilities (very likely considering everyone can be a 1-shot doctor/bodyguard/bulletproof), but eventually once those abilities run out, every once in a while a kill will fail.

There will likely be members of the town who have an incentive to go into either the sneak or mage trees instead. These players should carefully consider whether they want to dip into warrior first or rush for their abilities.

I have extra knowledge to share that is not covered in the set-up that can be disadvantageous to us if not properly navigated:

I believe that each tree also has a neighborhood associated with it

, and that putting a point in a tree gets you access to that neighborhood. I believe that these neighborhoods do not reveal who is a part of them, so other players will not know unless you actually talk in the neighborhood. For this reason, I think that

players who join the Warrior tree should not post in the neighborhood

in order to make it less clear on who decided to take the tree and who is rushing something else.

-4

[jjh927]

I mean, my understanding was that everyone was just assigned one of the three things and thrown into one of three neighbourhoods, independent of whether you actually take anything from that tree

There are already 4 of us who have posted in my hood

3