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[marcistar]

Why do u have a POE already when theres people who havent even posted yet?

[Not Known 15]

Why do u have a POE already when theres people who havent even posted yet?

Why not? Those who have not posted are null, and there are 4 suspicious people with a maximum of 3 scum.

[marcistar]

Why do u have a POE already when theres people who havent even posted yet?

Why not? Those who have not posted are null, and there are 4 suspicious people with a maximum of 3 scum.

It isn't looking at the full picture right now since some players havent posted yet, ur "poe" is the weirdest thing ever, without explanation it looks like ur mainly after the people who are actually doing stuff.
Can u explain on ur reads honey?

[Gamma Emerald]

marci feels actually slightly town. Not for outing the hood itself, I like the lightheartedness in their posts, feels natural.

Lion's 55 gives me negative vibes. I can't put my finger on it if it feels rather artificial or over the top. Obviously there is more history, I am just not sure what exactly else he was expecting there. Feels more like making more out of it than it actually is.

Then again I agree with him that dwlee's response wasn't great.

VOTE: dwlee99

This post also sucks. Soft push buddy but vote town is the vibe I'm getting from this.

What do you make of a POE of {Lion, Testarossa, dkoba/marci}?

meh, meh, bad

[humaneatingmonkey]

idk if koba is town. i dont know if a rapid show of gamesolving to get townread early is outside of their scum range. i also think that the way they went so hot on Dwlee on a poor reaction test makes me think it's fabricated so they can have somewhere to push.

[humaneatingmonkey]

like where did the traitor talk come from?

[DkKoba]

VOTE: humaneatingmonkey
caught em

[humaneatingmonkey]

oh yeah? tell me why im scum

[GuiltyLion]

This looks constructed, hedgey, and the hanging with friends is just a description, not AtE.

Explain how it is "hedgey"? What do you think I am hedging on, and why?

also, yes, I understand it is a description. the AtE is that they bothered to bring it up at all to a singular accusation of being 'frozen', it's using irl to defend themself when they had nothing they needed to defend themselves over.

Not sure if this is whiteknighting or defending a partner, because an early claim of a neighborhood isn't really AI... it is useful info for town that will probably be spilled anyways!

[...]

Marci looks scummy.

I think the

specific

way marcistar claimed it, bringing it up before you had said anything to her, is AI.

I'm also a bit confused by your use of the term "white knighting" here? Do you think anyone is pushing marcistar or that I believe I should get towncred for townreading her in that context? Who was I defending her

against

, in your mind?

I also don't believe you actually think marci is scummy, you've given no reasoning for it. What in her posts do you see as potentially scum-indicative?

[DkKoba]

oh yeah? tell me why im scum

Fear (:

[humaneatingmonkey]

okay batman

[GuiltyLion]

I'm not going through my past games to look for something as inconsequential as this. Every game I look at the playerlist, pick a name on vibe, decide to give a reason or not based on my mood, then put the first thing that pops into my head down if I do. I've probably not said this combo of words ever because most people haven't snowed me in the specific associative way you did and also that one time we played back in 2016 and I called you scum but my hydra did not agree to lim you

If you do it frequently, it shouldn't be hard to find another example of it, no? I'm not looking for the specific combo of words, rather just anything like "vote: [x], you were scum last game we played", if that's

ever

been your reasoning for your first vote.

if you're not willing to do that to help me get over my dislike of your first post, fine, but I don't know why you wouldn't want to help me see you as town here if you're town, it shouldn't be too hard to do a quick survey of past town games and I'll probably wind up doing it myself later regardless

If you were actually trying to read me you'd see I was specifically responding to Koba calling me frozen and it's slimy af to imply I'd lie about being busy irl

I never said nor meant to imply you were lying about it, I believe you. My issue is rather that you brought it up at all. who cares if koba thinks you are "frozen" or not?? you chose to say your IRL reason for not posting in the game just a couple hours into gamestart, it's the fact that you compelled to do that to reply to Koba that bothers me, not the reasoning itself. if his frozen accusation has no validity because it had no bearing on your alignment, why bring up something that has no bearing on your alignment (being out with friends) in response, especially when it's not like anyone else was agreeing with or sheeping Koba?

[GuiltyLion]

if their frozen accusation

EBWOP

[GuiltyLion]

Why do u have a POE already when theres people who havent even posted yet?

Why not? Those who have not posted are null, and there are 4 suspicious people with a maximum of 3 scum.

the fact that you already have more suspects than the number of scum should tell you that your reasoning for suspecting people is wrong and needs work

[GuiltyLion]

i dont know if a rapid show of gamesolving to get townread early is outside of their scum range. i also think that the way they went so hot on Dwlee on a poor reaction test makes me think it's fabricated so they can have somewhere to push.

sure it's not outside scum range, but that doesn't mean they are scum? are you saying you suspect Koba here or are you just trying to push back against people townreading them?

also, what is your read on Dwlee? I see you not liking Koba's vote/reasoning, but I don't see you giving your own opinion on Dwlee

[humaneatingmonkey]

are you just trying to push back against people townreading them

this

the argument against dwlee resonates with me too. it is overdefensive to the outside eye. but maybe? maybe it's just how dwlee would push back regardless of alignment? that's also possible. dwlee owned me as scum once, and he was pretty good at image management. so i'm suspicious, but i have reservations calling scum

[DkKoba]

nah HEM you are implying I am scum and are afraid of town!me gaining any power <3 i know scum fear when i see it

ggwp see u next game HEM/NK15/Dwlee

[DkKoba]

they say "idk if theyre scum" into "i think they fabricated this"

a slip, if you may, of perspective.

dwlee's hood shit wasnt really *that* conclusive but their reaction sucked.

[GuiltyLion]

I never said nor meant to imply you were lying about it, I believe you. My issue is rather that you brought it up at all. who cares if koba thinks you are "frozen" or not?? you chose to say your IRL reason for not posting in the game just a couple hours into gamestart, it's the fact that you compelled to do that to reply to Koba that bothers me, not the reasoning itself. if his frozen accusation has no validity because it had no bearing on your alignment, why bring up something that has no bearing on your alignment (being out with friends) in response, especially when it's not like anyone else was agreeing with or sheeping Koba?

ehhh actually I'm thinking about this more and I'm not sure it's an especially great point

I think the main thing I didn't like is this idea that a. because you are out with friends and therefore not frozen scum, b. we're supposed to believe that you're town

but I'm realizing in fairness if you

know

you're town, it might make sense as a response, and I might be assuming/projecting b) when you didn't mean to suggest it to that degree.

I do think you're being defensive but that might be more of a personality trait here

[humaneatingmonkey]

am i supposed to townread this

[humaneatingmonkey]

nah HEM you are implying I am scum and are afraid of town!me gaining any power <3 i know scum fear when i see it

ggwp see u next game HEM/NK15/Dwlee

like would you seriously believe this if you were town here

[GuiltyLion]

i have reservations calling scum

mmm I'm of an opposite philosophy, let the accusations fly freely

[humaneatingmonkey]

for sure, but i can't call it scum right now

[DkKoba]

nah HEM you are implying I am scum and are afraid of town!me gaining any power <3 i know scum fear when i see it

ggwp see u next game HEM/NK15/Dwlee

like would you seriously believe this if you were town here

ur sure doing a lot of shade throwing for someone who claims they "don't know" im scum

and hold up let me check my role PM i need to make sure im town


............ yep! im town so i think i seriously do believe it

why is dwlee town?

[DkKoba]

i do actually have something to say but like that relies on HEM to respond first :3