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[VP Baltar]

not sure why you suspect me, Fire

the gamestate doesn't really make sense to me if vp is maf so im considering other possibilities

but idk if any of those possibilities really make any more sense

Was it you or Math who said Nero-Titus-April-???

I still have a hard time seeing Titus, but maybe if the fourth was one of the people consistently pushing me this game, I can maybe squint and see that....

[fireisredsir]

idk if i said it but it is one of the possibilities I've been considering lately so maybe you just read my brain

[fireisredsir]

sure why not, ill hate myself either way

VOTE: nero

[fireisredsir]

imo titus is playing a scumgame that april should be capable of recognizing and it concerns me that she doesn't. like 5999 and 6008 are deeply unsatisfying to me

[MathBlade]

imo titus is playing a scumgame that april should be capable of recognizing and it concerns me that she doesn't. like 5999 and 6008 are deeply unsatisfying to me

It’s why Imho BoPing Boon is the right call.

Still afk

[MathBlade]

not sure why you suspect me, Fire

the gamestate doesn't really make sense to me if vp is maf so im considering other possibilities

but idk if any of those possibilities really make any more sense

Was it you or Math who said Nero-Titus-April-???

I still have a hard time seeing Titus, but maybe if the fourth was one of the people consistently pushing me this game, I can maybe squint and see that....

I said Titus/April/VP + 1

Or Cape/Frogger/Titus/April

Or Titus/April/???

I am kinda locked Titus April just dumb to elim outside of the hood
April is locked until they push scum

April should have zero problems with BoP given team mafia.

[MathBlade]

I could see maybe Cape Frogger Tene Titus if April is being bad (which is rare)

But overall Titus needs death imho

[Titus]

Just tell us who we're voting for today. You have analysis paralysis.

[April Ludgate]

Hmm, my vote seems to be lookin' rather heavy right now

[April Ludgate]

VP Baltar (5): Nero Cain, Save The Dragons, Frogsterking, tenebrousluminary, fireisredsir

This 100% has at least 1 scum on it, regardless of VPB's alignment.

If VPB is scum, a partner will be bussing here because VPB as scum would be in "just gonna last as long as I can" mode. My theory is that it's Frog.

I town read Nero and STD, Fire I've been trusting for a while, and if he's scum, well fuck.

Frog/Tene are my largest suspects as partners.

I still feel my VPB/Frog case has weight.

[VP Baltar]

I still feel my VPB/Frog case has weight.

This is not a good look for you, ngl

[April Ludgate]

Here's the thing, VPB was town reading Cape super hard, I stated I thought this was potential for VPB setting up Cape as a possible scum partner if he goes down, and feel Frog/VPB have been scum theatre'ing it up.

The way that VPB/Frog cases against each other feel very strong, like they are only seeing those type of details because they know that the other is scum, if that makes sense.


I also really don't think ScumCape pushes me in this situation. It feels like he's possibly pocketed by VPB, which would make sense considering VPB has been hard town reading Cape, and if VPB is scum, a pocket in the neighborhood makes a lot of sense.

I think VPB has played a strong scum game, but yeah, I do believe VPB is likely scum here.

[April Ludgate]

I still feel my VPB/Frog case has weight.

This is not a good look for you, ngl

It might not be, but I think I gotta go with it.

There's something in me that wants to believe you're town, I just can't logically get myself to think otherwise right now. I'm looking for any reason, I really am.

[VP Baltar]

I think VPB has played a strong scum game, but yeah, I do believe VPB is likely scum here.

What's your bullet case here? Especially since you were defending me yesterday and I repaid the favor backing your preferred lim.

[VP Baltar]

The way that VPB/Frog cases against each other feel very strong, like they are only seeing those type of details because they know that the other is scum, if that makes sense.

Also, sum up the frog case on me please.

[Titus]

not sure why you suspect me, Fire

the gamestate doesn't really make sense to me if vp is maf so im considering other possibilities

but idk if any of those possibilities really make any more sense

sure why not, ill hate myself either way

VOTE: nero

I think we should stop stressing and just accept the fact we have to test Math's theory whatever it is. If we don't test the theory and are wrong, then Math will certainly instavote in elo. There will be no discussion then. If he's right, we can go down whatever his theory is. IF he's wrong, we can pray to the gods that he'll work with us.

[VP Baltar]

Math will certainly instavote in elo.

You think math actually lives to elo?

[April Ludgate]

I'm gonna put Galron slot as Green. I think that it's more likely Galron is town than a potential traitor.


Day 1

GeneralWu

(10): tenebrousluminary, fireisredsir,

Yeet

, Save The Dragons, VP Baltar,

humaneatingmonkey

, Titus,

MathBlade

, Enchant, Cape90 [E-0!]
Enchant (2):

Galron

, April Ludgate

Yeet

(1): Frogsterking
Nero Cain(1): Nero Cain
Frogsterking (1): Eyes without a face

Not Voting (4): Scorpious, DeasVail,

MalcolmTucker

,

GeneralWu

2.20

MalcolmTucker

(9): Eyes without a face,

Yeet

, April Ludgate, Scorpious,

Galron

, VP Baltar, Titus, fireisredsir,

MathBlade

[E-0!]
VP Baltar (5): DeasVail, Frogsterking, tenebrousluminary, Save the Dragons, Nero Cain

Galron

(3): Cape90, Enchant,

MalcolmTucker

3.13

VP Baltar (5): Nero Cain, Save The Dragons, Frogsterking, tenebrousluminary, fireisredsir [E-3]
Cape90 (3):

Mathblade

, Titus, Scorpious
April Ludgate (2): Cape90, Enchant
Frogsterking (1): Eyes without a face
Nero Cain (1): VP Baltar

Not Voting (3): DeasVail,

Galron

, April Ludgate


Hmm, this might be a Cape case accidentally.

First thing that stands out to me is Cape/Enchant slot are next to each other in all 3 of these vote counts. The first 2 are the last of each day, and then 3rd is most current one.


Interesting. If you look at Day 2/Day 3, VPB has no revealed slots whatsoever, and is made up of 4 of the 5 same people. Who are the two that are switched?

DeasVail and Fire. that pairing comes up yet again.



Fire, VPB, Titus slot are the 3 slots that have been on both misfades. VPB/Titus are both in that momentum shifting section to finalize it for both. I do see a world that could have Titus/VPB together, but I find it a little odd that Titus would defend VPB in this scenario the way she is.


Also, Enchant's like 100% scum this game. If there's only 1 kill tonight, and it's me, and Enchant claims they vig shot me, yeah, know that's just scum.

I also don't like the Frogster Vig guiding stuff, looks so fake but that might be a confbias thing because I have Frogs as scum in my head right now.

Enchant/Frog with one of Cape or VPB.

[April Ludgate]

I just find it a really weird scum move if Cape comes after me here.

Unless Cape pocketed VPB, and he's trying to protect his pocket buddy? Could make sense why he's pushing me then, and Enchant was already looking for a reason to jump onto me since I started bringing up I thought they were scum when I was looking into Fua slot.

If I was starting to get on the right trail, it makes sense to come after me as a scape goat to VPB.

However, I can see possible scum VPB setting up to jump onto my wagon because there's definitely the possibility for some momentum for my wagon right now, and townCape might have been warlocked by VPB, and now Cape looks to be the main one pushing me.

That could have been manufactured, though.


@Nero - you're gonna love me asking this, but was there any talk in your neighborhood in the vain of "what do you think about April?" this day phase?

[April Ludgate]

I think Cape vs April is getting set up, but I don't know if it's coming from a Cape play to protect his pocket or a VPB play through Cape.

[DeasVail]

sure why not, ill hate myself either way

VOTE: nero

Based on what I’ve read so far, I think it’s pretty unlikely I’d vote Nero over VP today.

I also don’t buy that Nero/VP must have scum between them. I’m also at the VP-scum stage of my thought cycle rn fwiw

[April Ludgate]

I still feel my VPB/Frog case has weight.

This is not a good look for you, ngl

Something that's off with this post is because I feel like if VPB was town, this would be a good thing? Like a "think so highly of my scum game" or a "i'm okay with this as it means Frog can be faded".

The thing is, VPB was also actively going "i'll die if it's what the town needs" and not only that, but we gave him the chance thereafter, to live further in this game than expected, but instead of accepting we were on the townie wagon, he just kind of pushes more focus onto "i was just sheeping april". He was doing this, but the manufacturing possibility of that element is what's intriguing. like he wanted that headline while playing the game yesterday.

[April Ludgate]

sure why not, ill hate myself either way

VOTE: nero

Based on what I’ve read so far, I think it’s pretty unlikely I’d vote Nero over VP today.

I also don’t buy that Nero/VP must have scum between them. I’m also at the VP-scum stage of my thought cycle rn fwiw

What do you think of Cape? That's the option I see if Nero/Vp don't have scum in them.

[fireisredsir]

i thought it was cape but that was like a whole 24 hours ago

times have changed. wars have been fought. hearts have been broken

[MathBlade]

Math will certainly instavote in elo.

You think math actually lives to elo?

Better question is why you all think tomorrow is elo.