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April Ludgate · Post Post #6375 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:57 pm

In post 6353, fireisredsir wrote:imo titus is playing a scumgame that april should be capable of recognizing and it concerns me that she doesn't. like 5999 and 6008 are deeply unsatisfying to me

if Titus is scum, she's playing in a way that's pocketing me, so I feel that's fair. Have a good amount of games that we were both in, and we've both tunneled into each other incorrectly and called out the other as scum before.

Could explain why my reads could be off if i'm in an incorrect pocket somewhere.

VP Baltar · Post Post #6376 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:58 pm

In post 6371, April Ludgate wrote:he just kind of pushes more focus onto "i was just sheeping april".

I never said this or even implied it. I backed you sure, but I never tried to blame you for that wagon. That's false.

fireisredsir · Post Post #6377 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:58 pm

In post 6374, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6366, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 6365, Titus wrote:Math will certainly instavote in elo.
You think math actually lives to elo?
Better question is why you all think tomorrow is elo.

obviously we have 2 groupscum and 4 traitors

VP Baltar · Post Post #6378 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:58 pm

In post 6374, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6366, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 6365, Titus wrote:Math will certainly instavote in elo.
You think math actually lives to elo?
Better question is why you all think tomorrow is elo.

I dont?

April Ludgate · Post Post #6379 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:00 pm

In post 6376, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 6371, April Ludgate wrote:he just kind of pushes more focus onto "i was just sheeping april".
I never said this or even implied it. I backed you sure, but I never tried to blame you for that wagon. That's false.

hmm, you're right. i'm misremembering something, but I'm not sure what I'm remembering then.

DeasVail · Post Post #6380 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:05 pm

In post 6372, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 6370, DeasVail wrote:
In post 6352, fireisredsir wrote:sure why not, ill hate myself either way

VOTE: nero
Based on what I’ve read so far, I think it’s pretty unlikely I’d vote Nero over VP today.

I also don’t buy that Nero/VP must have scum between them. I’m also at the VP-scum stage of my thought cycle rn fwiw
What do you think of Cape? That's the option I see if Nero/Vp don't have scum in them.

Current impression is town (but not locktown).

I plan on having my reads cleared up (hopefully with some amount of explanation) by about 8 hours’ time.

Titus · Post Post #6381 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:42 pm

In post 6378, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 6374, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6366, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 6365, Titus wrote:Math will certainly instavote in elo.
You think math actually lives to elo?
Better question is why you all think tomorrow is elo.
I dont?

I don't but I think your theory will take more than one day to test.

MathBlade · Post Post #6382 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:43 pm

In post 6381, Titus wrote:
In post 6378, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 6374, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6366, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 6365, Titus wrote:Math will certainly instavote in elo.
You think math actually lives to elo?
Better question is why you all think tomorrow is elo.
I dont?
I don't but I think your theory will take more than one day to test.

Malcolm was one.
Today is two.

Titus · Post Post #6383 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:43 pm

In post 6377, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 6374, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6366, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 6365, Titus wrote:Math will certainly instavote in elo.
You think math actually lives to elo?
Better question is why you all think tomorrow is elo.
obviously we have 2 groupscum and 4 traitors

Of course. Math's my traitor and we're going to janitor the real mason.

DeasVail · Post Post #6384 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:19 pm

In post 5949, April Ludgate wrote:Remind me to look into VPB - Fire possibilities.

Fire's play around VP is very bold if they're scum together. I think scum-Fire would think there is too much risk of their play looking like attempts to save scum-VP.

VP Baltar · Post Post #6385 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:29 pm

In post 6384, DeasVail wrote:
In post 5949, April Ludgate wrote:Remind me to look into VPB - Fire possibilities.
Fire's play around VP is very bold if they're scum together. I think scum-Fire would think there is too much risk of their play looking like attempts to save scum-VP.

Que? Fire is saving me?

DeasVail · Post Post #6386 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:35 pm

In post 6385, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 6384, DeasVail wrote:
In post 5949, April Ludgate wrote:Remind me to look into VPB - Fire possibilities.
Fire's play around VP is very bold if they're scum together. I think scum-Fire would think there is too much risk of their play looking like attempts to save scum-VP.
Que? Fire is saving me?

I don't think Fire is actually saving you, no.

But multiple times Fire has backed off your wagon at what I think scum could perceive as crucial moments. If Fire is scum with you, I would expect Fire to feel extremely self-conscious about something like the Nero vote, or the unvotes earlier this game day "because VP is willing to work with us". I believe scum in that position would worry that it

looks

like they are trying to save their buddy, when realistically it probably doesn't change anything. It's all lose, no gain.

DeasVail · Post Post #6387 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:37 pm

VOTE: VP Baltar

*runs away screaming*

but seriously I want this day to end. I want VP to be eliminated once and for all.

I no longer need to have my reads in order (but will still do this as promised). But yeah. i'm done. i want this to be done.

fireisredsir · Post Post #6388 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:53 pm

In post 6387, DeasVail wrote:*runs away screaming*

very relatable

why does 15 players left feel like elo

DeasVail · Post Post #6389 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:00 pm

And it's not, that's the thing. If VP is town, then that's okay. I'm happy to wear that, and I really just think that the game would be better off for VP's elimination regardless. But also, I think he is scum and could talk about my thought process in having come to that conclusion, but it's the sort of convoluted thought process that was to convince

me

to vote VP, not the sort of thing that I would expect to convince others.

MathBlade · Post Post #6390 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:29 pm

In post 6383, Titus wrote:
In post 6377, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 6374, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6366, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 6365, Titus wrote:Math will certainly instavote in elo.
You think math actually lives to elo?
Better question is why you all think tomorrow is elo.
obviously we have 2 groupscum and 4 traitors
Of course. Math's my traitor and we're going to janitor the real mason.

@VP
@Titus

If tomorrow isn’t elo why talk about it.

fireisredsir · Post Post #6391 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:39 pm

my main fear is that like... if vp is town i would like to have him around to talk to and help solve this. but maybe the game will be too tainted by the number of people who think he's scum for that to be useful anyway

MathBlade · Post Post #6392 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:45 pm

In post 6383, Titus wrote:
In post 6377, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 6374, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6366, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 6365, Titus wrote:Math will certainly instavote in elo.
You think math actually lives to elo?
Better question is why you all think tomorrow is elo.
obviously we have 2 groupscum and 4 traitors
Of course. Math's my traitor and we're going to janitor the real mason.

I really really hope enchant shoots you

Titus · Post Post #6393 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:26 pm

In post 6392, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6383, Titus wrote:
In post 6377, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 6374, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6366, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 6365, Titus wrote:Math will certainly instavote in elo.
You think math actually lives to elo?
Better question is why you all think tomorrow is elo.
obviously we have 2 groupscum and 4 traitors
Of course. Math's my traitor and we're going to janitor the real mason.
I really really hope enchant shoots you

I really really hope you start listening to me on who to lim. Hood lim is a horrible strategy but you've sent it through.

MathBlade · Post Post #6394 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:30 pm

Hood elim while testing April seems great to me

Titus · Post Post #6395 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:36 pm

Yeah....to you....

Titus · Post Post #6396 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:38 pm

Can you vote VP so we can end this day? I have a busy day at work tomorrow.

April Ludgate · Post Post #6397 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:32 pm

VOTE: VP Baltar

Yeah, VPB-Frogster-Enchant-Tene is my solve.

ISO · Post Post #6398 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:58 pm

If the number says “4 5”, that means there are four filled squares in a row in that column, some number of empty squares, and then five filled squares in a row (and then empties, in any squares are left).

Official Votecount 3.14VP Baltar (6): Nero Cain, Save The Dragons, Frogsterking, tenebrousluminary, DeasVail, April Ludgate

[E-2]

Cape90 (3): Mathblade, Titus, Scorpious
April Ludgate (2): Cape90, Enchant
Nero Cain (2): VP Baltar, fireisredsir
Frogsterking (1): Eyes without a face

Not Voting (1): Galron

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2022-03-25 22:15:00).

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tenebrousluminary · Post Post #6399 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:00 pm

In post 6397, April Ludgate wrote:VOTE: VP Baltar

Yeah, VPB-Frogster-Enchant-Tene is my solve.

Wow, I am amazing at bussing.