RH9's Micro Normal Review, March 2022

[implosion]

Dear implosion,

Here is a draft of my Micro Normal.

Setup

5 Vanilla Townies

Even Night Informed Townie

Odd Night Informed Townie

Mafia Encryptor

Mafia Encryptor Enabler

Roles

Spoiler: Vanilla Townie

Welcome to game! You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the

Town

are eliminated and at least one

Town

-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.

Spoiler: Even Night Informed Townie

Welcome to game! You are an

Even Night Informed Townie

.

You will be given additional information about the setup during even-numbered Nights.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the

Town

are eliminated and at least one

Town

-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Spoiler: Odd Night Informed Townie

Welcome to game! You are an

Odd Night Informed Townie

.

You will be given additional information about the setup during odd-numbered Nights.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the

Town

are eliminated and at least one

Town

-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Spoiler: Mafia Encryptor

Welcome to game! You are a

Mafia Encryptor

.

You are

Mafia

with … and you share a PT located here where you may converse during the Night and confirmation phase.
You, and anyone else present, may talk in Private Topics containing you even during the Day.

You have the following active ability:

Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.
You win if at least one

Mafia

member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by posting in the

Mafia

PT or by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.

Spoiler: Mafia Encryptor Enabler

Welcome to game! You are a

Mafia Encryptor Enabler

.

You are

Mafia

with … and you share a PT located here where you may converse during the Night and confirmation phase.
When you die, the role "Encryptor" will cease to function for all players.

You have the following active ability:

Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.
You win if at least one

Mafia

member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by posting in the

Mafia

PT or by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.

Results

Spoiler: N1/N2

You know that

Mafia

has an

Encryptor

but if

Mafia

ever loses a member, they will lose their

Daytalk

.

Spoiler: N3/N4

You know that you are not the only

Informed Townie

and

Mafia

is not aware of your role.

Spoiler: N5/N6

You know that all

Informed Townie

receive the same information.

Thanks,
RH9

[implosion]

Primary: Datisi
Secondary: RadiantCowbells

[RH9]

Am I allowed to egopost?

[RH9]

Also. Can I change the

results

for the

Informed Townies

?

[RH9]

The new

results

are the following.

Results

Spoiler: N1/N2

You know that if any member of the

Mafia

dies,

Daytalk

will be lost for all players.

Spoiler: N3/N4

You know that you are not the only

Informed Townie

and that all

Informed Townie

receive the same information.[/spoiler

[RH9]

The new

results

are the following.

Results

Spoiler: N1/N2

You know that if any member of the

Mafia

dies,

Daytalk

will be lost for all players.

Spoiler: N3/N4

You know that you are not the only

Informed Townie

and that all

Informed Townie

receive the same information.

Fixed broken tags.

[Datisi]

i think this setup would be close to balanced in the one scenario where (1) everyone believes the informed townie claims and (2) scum doesn't claim a power role. in that scenario, the two informed townies are kind-of-masons, and the game would be close to passable range. (i say close since they're still weaker than a pair of masons since they cannot communicate with each other, but anyway.)

however, i think that exact scenario is very unlikely to happen.

the information received on n1 and n2 is very much useless since scum definitely isn't going to publicly claim encryptor, and due to the fact that there's only two scum, it can be argued that the daytalk is "lost" as soon as one of them dies anyway since the other scum doesn't have anyone to talk to.

the only scenario where that information isn't useless is if one of the informed townies claims their information, and then the other backs them up, saying they received the same information. however, if this happens on d3 (meaning before either of them gets the info that they're not the only informed townie), it could be argued that one of them is scum (since informed is more often a scum role than a town role anyway), and depending on the player base, they might be expecting weird interactions in setups. so it's not a clear exactly, and a smart fakeclaim form scum could get them killed.

so yeah, this feels way too weak for town. did you have any additional ideas for the setup?

[RH9]

i think this setup would be close to balanced in the one scenario where (1) everyone believes the informed townie claims and (2) scum doesn't claim a power role. in that scenario, the two informed townies are kind-of-masons, and the game would be close to passable range. (i say close since they're still weaker than a pair of masons since they cannot communicate with each other, but anyway.)

however, i think that exact scenario is very unlikely to happen.

the information received on n1 and n2 is very much useless since scum definitely isn't going to publicly claim encryptor, and due to the fact that there's only two scum, it can be argued that the daytalk is "lost" as soon as one of them dies anyway since the other scum doesn't have anyone to talk to.

the only scenario where that information isn't useless is if one of the informed townies claims their information, and then the other backs them up, saying they received the same information. however, if this happens on d3 (meaning before either of them gets the info that they're not the only informed townie), it could be argued that one of them is scum (since informed is more often a scum role than a town role anyway), and depending on the player base, they might be expecting weird interactions in setups. so it's not a clear exactly, and a smart fakeclaim form scum could get them killed.

so yeah, this feels way too weak for town. did you have any additional ideas for the setup?

I considered replacing the

Informed Townies

with an

Informed Mason

and

Mason Encryptor

.

Spoiler: Results For Informed Mason

You know that if a certain member of the

Mafia

dies,

Daytalk

will be lost for all players, but eliminating the other will cause only the

Mafia

to lose it.

[Datisi]

so that would be...

1x town informed mason
1x town mason encryptor
5x vanilla townie
vs
1x mafia encryptor
1x mafia encryptor enabler

i think this is passable. i'll wait to see if rc's fine with the setup first, though.

[RH9]

If he's fine with it, I will make the new Role PMs.

[RH9]

If he's fine with it, I will make the new Role PMs.

For the

Masons

.
It will probably go like the following.

"You are

Masons

with … and you share a PT located here where you may converse during the Night and confirmation phase."

[RH9]

I will work more on that when I get back from school.
When I'm done, I will post the new sample PMs here.

[RadiantCowbells]

i have given this a great deal of thought and i am going to contact implosion about it before I say anything further

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm fine with the final setup I think

[RH9]

Got that.

[RH9]

Though, when I post the sample Role PMs, may you check for any errors?

[RH9]

Here is the updated setup and Role PMs.

Setup

5 Vanilla Townies

Informed Town Mason

Town Mason Encryptor

Mafia Encryptor

Mafia Encryptor Enabler

Roles

Spoiler: Vanilla Townie

Welcome to game! You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the

Town

are eliminated and at least one

Town

-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.

Spoiler: Informed Town Mason

Welcome to game! You are an

Informed Town Mason

.

You know additional information about the setup: If a certain member of the

Mafia

dies,

Daytalk

will be lost for all players, but eliminating the other will cause only the

Mafia

to lose it.
You are

Masons

with …, who is guaranteed to also be

Town

, and you share a PT located here where you may converse during the Night and confirmation phase.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the

Town

are eliminated and at least one

Town

-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.

Spoiler: Town Mason Encryptor

Welcome to game! You are a

Town Mason Encryptor.

You are

Masons

with …, who is guaranteed to also be

Town

, and you share a PT located here where you may converse during the Night and confirmation phase.
You, and anyone else present, may talk in Private Topics containing you even during the Day.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the

Town

are eliminated and at least one

Town

-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.

Spoiler: Mafia Encryptor

Welcome to game! You are a

Mafia Encryptor

.

You are

Mafia

with … and you share a PT located here where you may converse during the Night and confirmation phase.
You, and anyone else present, may talk in Private Topics containing you even during the Day.

You have the following active ability:

Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.
You win if at least one

Mafia

member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by posting in the

Mafia

PT or by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.

Spoiler: Mafia Encryptor Enabler

Welcome to game! You are a

Mafia Encryptor Enabler

.

You are

Mafia

with … and you share a PT located here where you may converse during the Night and confirmation phase.
When you die, the role "Encryptor" will cease to function for all players.

You have the following active ability:

Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.
You win if at least one

Mafia

member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by posting in the

Mafia

PT or by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.

[RH9]

Here is the updated setup and Role PMs.

Setup

5 Vanilla Townies

Informed Town Mason

Town Mason Encryptor

Mafia Encryptor

Mafia Encryptor Enabler

Roles

Spoiler: Vanilla Townie

Welcome to game! You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the

Town

are eliminated and at least one

Town

-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.

Spoiler: Informed Town Mason

Welcome to game! You are an

Informed Town Mason

.

You know additional information about the setup: If a certain member of the

Mafia

dies,

Daytalk

will be lost for all players, but eliminating the other will cause only the

Mafia

to lose it.
You are

Masons

with …, who is guaranteed to also be

Town

, and you share a PT located here where you may converse during the Night and during Pregame.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the

Town

are eliminated and at least one

Town

-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.

Spoiler: Town Mason Encryptor

Welcome to game! You are a

Town Mason Encryptor.

You are

Masons

with …, who is guaranteed to also be

Town

, and you share a PT located here where you may converse during the Night and during Pregame.
You, and anyone else present, may talk in Private Topics containing you even during the Day.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the

Town

are eliminated and at least one

Town

-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.

Spoiler: Mafia Encryptor

Welcome to game! You are a

Mafia Encryptor

.

You are

Mafia

with … and you share a PT located here where you may converse during the Night and during Pregame.
You, and anyone else present, may talk in Private Topics containing you even during the Day.

You have the following active ability:

• Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

You win if at least one

Mafia

member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by posting in the

Mafia

PT or by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.

Spoiler: Mafia Encryptor Enabler

Welcome to game! You are a

Mafia Encryptor Enabler

.

You are

Mafia

with … and you share a PT located here where you may converse during the Night and during Pregame.
When you die, the role "Encryptor" will cease to function for all players.

You have the following active ability:

• Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

You win if at least one

Mafia

member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by posting in the

Mafia

PT or by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.

EBWOP
I fixed some minor errors in the Sample Role PMs. (In other words, forgetting the list tag for the

Mafia

PM.)
I also made some minor changes to the vocabulary.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'll look over the role pms tomorrow

[RH9]

Also, would I be permitted to change the word 'dead' to 'departed' and 'alive' to 'remaining'? (And change 'die' to 'depart'?)

[RH9]

Also, would I be permitted to change the word 'dead' to 'departed' and 'alive' to 'remaining'? (And change 'die' to 'depart'?)

(I mean when I run the game for the OP. I am aware that flavour isn't allowed in Role PMs.)

[RH9]

Wait.
Would altering vocabulary count as flavour?

[Datisi]

Also, would I be permitted to change the word 'dead' to 'departed' and 'alive' to 'remaining'? (And change 'die' to 'depart'?)

(I mean when I run the game for the OP. I am aware that flavour isn't allowed in Role PMs.)

i believe this is permitted. the name of the day-vote-kill is up to the mod, i don't see any reason why this wouldn't be too.

[RH9]

Wait.
If I alter the

Mafia

wincon to "You win if at least one

Mafia

member is alive and all other players are eliminated (or if nothing can prevent the same).", would that count as adding flavour?

[Datisi]

to my knowledge, no.