KTaNE [game over!]

[VP Baltar]

Uhh I have a massively unfinished list so people not mentioned are essentially no clues or I have had the chance to look into.

Not willing to vote out
Andante

Would be fine with voting out.
Frogsterking
Dwlee (Partial paranoia but he just feels like how he played in Mini 2265 and I can never get a read on him.

This is a weird list. Why are any of these people where they are?

[VP Baltar]

This is also a bad meta analysis of Andante. She has a capable scum game

I'm not saying she has a bad scum game at all. I'm saying I think her emotional intent is readable. However, I'm willing to grant I am not an expert with andante. I probably should refresh on some games with her to get a better read if I plan to rely on meta.

For now, I'd put her in the lean town category, but that's as much gut as anything. I don't understand how folks are like locktowning her for sure, other than spammy people tend to get passes D1.

[VP Baltar]

*spammy likeable people (probably more accurate)

[VP Baltar]

Good night Strange, I see what you mean about 546.

wish i rolled mason with someone else

Yeah I feel it my imagination gets like that too

Froggy, why are you calling out Ceph for fluff and then encouraging the same fluff? Don't make me question my read on you pls.

[VP Baltar]

Where is andres?

[VP Baltar]

Greeting [6]: catboi, Cephrir, Morning Tweet, PookyTheMagicalBear, Lukewarm, Cat Scratch Fever

catboiiiii (or anyone), help me understand this?

What's with all the Greeting town reads? Their ISO is just mech talk. What am I missing?

[catboi]

Titus was my early town read for a dumb reason.

Oh, and after that

I actually found her non-serious mason claim townie, even if I dont like fake mason claiming.

Both from an approach from her towards a possible miselim if he is town, but not in a way that I think scum would do for a partner if he is scum. But also in a similarity in how I've seen her approach games before.

I would say greeting and Titus are my strongest reads of those 5

Baffled by this Titus townread

It's because he's scum, hope this helps~

Are they using their trauma for good or evil

I think the best thing is to look past stuff like that and look at her analysis. She's enthusiastically solving and trying to analyze with some level of depth, so probably town.

Andante's scum game is perfectly capable and she can do enthusiasm as scum. This is a bad reason to townread her.

This is a very bad interpretation of what I said that almost misses the point entirely. The point is not that she is

posting

with enthusiasm but that her

solving

is enthusiastic. I could go at length to explain

If, in your estimation, she has a "capable" scum game, why is she clearly scum here?

I strongly dislike dwlee's Andante push.

Andante feels townish here, and I also know she's kind of an easy mislim having fallen into the trap of tunneling her more than once recently. I think dwlee knows this too.

That people are playing around her like this is actually what makes me think she is scum. She is actually townier as scum and that everyone townreads her when she is normally a controversial day one slot is very scum-indicative imo

That sh has a tendency to step on rakes is true, but isn't it just as possible that enough people here are familiar with her that they're less likely to misread her? I don't buy at all the argument that more people townreading her makes her scum.

[catboi]

Greeting [6]: catboi, Cephrir, Morning Tweet, PookyTheMagicalBear, Lukewarm, Cat Scratch Fever

catboiiiii (or anyone), help me understand this?

What's with all the Greeting town reads? Their ISO is just mech talk. What am I missing?

He tried to break the game under an incorrect assumption about how the bomb expert votes work.

That type of post never comes from scum, if scum believe there's a breaking strategy they don't post it publicly.

[VP Baltar]

Greeting [6]: catboi, Cephrir, Morning Tweet, PookyTheMagicalBear, Lukewarm, Cat Scratch Fever

catboiiiii (or anyone), help me understand this?

What's with all the Greeting town reads? Their ISO is just mech talk. What am I missing?

He tried to break the game under an incorrect assumption about how the bomb expert votes work.

That type of post never comes from scum, if scum believe there's a breaking strategy they don't post it publicly.

Ok, I suppose that has some logic to it.

[VP Baltar]

I don't buy at all the argument that more people townreading her makes her scum.

If anything, I'd be worried the inverse is true, that people trying to call her town too easily are buddying her and hoping to point andante's energy at other targets.

[Bell]

More lukewarm votes.

[Bell]

My lukewarm algorithm is reading red.

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: lukewarm

Sure

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: Lukewarm

debated how long I was going to wait for this. Sorry to say that Lukewarm rolled scum this game.

Curious why you decoded to drop this read now when you made it sound like you were gonna hold powder for a min. What changed?

I saw enough that I didn't feel like waiting anymore.

What did you see?

I was also kind of tweaked on Luke a little bit because that frogster case was pretty reachy. But I also wasn't super sure if I'm being over critical of him because frog looks town here.

You answer this catboi?

[Bell]

VOTE: lukewarm

Sure

Trown!!!
As a certain worm with a phd likes to say.

[Menalque]

I’ll be honest, I’m going to be skimming any pages that happen when I’m asleep at best

[Menalque]

Talk to me more about why lukewarm is scum, bell

[Bell]

It’s pretty much related to how they’re navigating suspicion. What they’re choosing to address, how long they choose to address a topic, etc.

[Frogsterking]

Uhh I have a massively unfinished list so people not mentioned are essentially no clues or I have had the chance to look into.

Not willing to vote out
Andante

Would be fine with voting out.
Frogsterking
Dwlee (Partial paranoia but he just feels like how he played in Mini 2265 and I can never get a read on him.

This is a weird list. Why are any of these people where they are?

Wrong, it's a strange list.

Good night Strange, I see what you mean about 546.

wish i rolled mason with someone else

Yeah I feel it my imagination gets like that too

Froggy, why are you calling out Ceph for fluff and then encouraging the same fluff? Don't make me question my read on you pls.

You misread because I wasn't the player who called out Ceph for fluff posting.

[Bell]

And their post about asking whether volunteering to be the bomb defuser person was made out of ignorance or was asking the scum team.
Something about it bothered me, but I can’t put my finger on it.

[Menalque]

It’s pretty much related to how they’re navigating suspicion. What they’re choosing to address, how long they choose to address a topic, etc.

Could you highlight where pls? I’ve looked at the iso and I can maybe get on board but I want a better idea of what you’re seeing first

[StrangeMatter]

Uhh I have a massively unfinished list so people not mentioned are essentially no clues or I have had the chance to look into.

Not willing to vote out
Andante

Would be fine with voting out.
Frogsterking
Dwlee (Partial paranoia but he just feels like how he played in Mini 2265 and I can never get a read on him.

This is a weird list. Why are any of these people where they are?

Well it's an early reads list with mostly paranoia and slots I'm a little suspicious of and I've literally said why I think where people are though. Dwlee is paranoia but they give the same feel as they did in Mini 2265, which is partially gut but at the same time its a slot I would be fine with eliminating. Frogster's early read on me was odd since they proceed to townlean me for being outside of my scumrange, despite also knowing its a small scum range, which lines up with them saying its a weak townlean. But then they say something along the lines of these town slots are not going to be in the POE and scumreads plus nominating me indicates believing I am likely town here, which just doesn't add up.

That being said I like my vote here
VOTE: Frogsterking

[VP Baltar]

You misread because I wasn't the player who called out Ceph for fluff posting.

Isn't your 549 agreeing with cat?

[VP Baltar]

You misread because I wasn't the player who called out Ceph for fluff posting.

Isn't your 549 agreeing with cat?

Sorry, strange, not cat

[catboi]

VOTE: Lukewarm

debated how long I was going to wait for this. Sorry to say that Lukewarm rolled scum this game.

Curious why you decoded to drop this read now when you made it sound like you were gonna hold powder for a min. What changed?

I saw enough that I didn't feel like waiting anymore.

What did you see?

I was also kind of tweaked on Luke a little bit because that frogster case was pretty reachy. But I also wasn't super sure if I'm being over critical of him because frog looks town here.

You answer this catboi?

Missed it, apologies. Strong gut feeling, think leaning into mech talk early is scummy for him, the way he spoke about stuff just didn't feel like there was real interest in deciding a plan. I think in his catchup he was overly focused on frogster's read of him and mainly chose to respond to mechanical things that had already been hashed out, commenting for the sake of commenting. I think the pages between the game start and his return had plenty to form reads off but he wasn't able to produce anything substantive.