KTaNE [game over!]

Titus · Post Post #675 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:30 am

In post 672, The Praetorian wrote:
In post 660, Titus wrote:I have looked at the VCs but not caught up. Why do I have expert noms? I have done shit.
you do well in hoods is part of my nom and you havent pinged me

I'm afraid you have me at a disadvantage but wouldn't I use hoods well as either alignment? Thank you for the compliment though.

catboi · Post Post #676 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:35 am

I would be...disappointed if his response to getting caught early was to bounce. But I will not read into that at all, have recent firsthand experience with people mis-clearing scum for a replace out. Treating that action as null. I feel like he's mostly working himself into knots trying to justify those reads and I don't find a believable thought process there.

catboi · Post Post #677 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:35 am

The paranoia on me also screams fake but I'm very biased in that regard

The Praetorian · Post Post #678 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:47 am

In post 676, catboi wrote:I would be...disappointed if his response to getting caught early was to bounce. But I will not read into that at all, have recent firsthand experience with people mis-clearing scum for a replace out. Treating that action as null. I feel like he's mostly working himself into knots trying to justify those reads and I don't find a believable thought process there.

we should not discuss replacements.

The Praetorian · Post Post #679 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:48 am

In post 675, Titus wrote:
In post 672, The Praetorian wrote:
In post 660, Titus wrote:I have looked at the VCs but not caught up. Why do I have expert noms? I have done shit.
you do well in hoods is part of my nom and you havent pinged me
I'm afraid you have me at a disadvantage but wouldn't I use hoods well as either alignment? Thank you for the compliment though.

I want to also be in a hood and I am unpocketable in hoods so GL

Titus · Post Post #680 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:50 am

In post 679, The Praetorian wrote:
In post 675, Titus wrote:
In post 672, The Praetorian wrote:
In post 660, Titus wrote:I have looked at the VCs but not caught up. Why do I have expert noms? I have done shit.
you do well in hoods is part of my nom and you havent pinged me
I'm afraid you have me at a disadvantage but wouldn't I use hoods well as either alignment? Thank you for the compliment though.
I want to also be in a hood and I am unpocketable in hoods so GL

I wish I was scum this game just to show you everyone is pocketable. I don't know who you are, but that's a very proud statement.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #681 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:51 am

I am good at hoods and would like to be in one

Titus · Post Post #682 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:52 am

HEAL: Dwlee99

Why not?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #683 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:52 am

In post 669, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 667, Dwlee99 wrote:Frogster
Andante
Luke
Pooky
Andres
Are who I want to focus on this phase I think
Why andres?

Too much mech from him. He doesn't strike me as the type to normally want to delve into mechs before dayplay and I think him doing so is scummy.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #684 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:58 am

In post 667, Dwlee99 wrote:Frogster
Andante
Luke
Pooky
Andres
Are who I want to focus on this phase I think

Also CSF
Complete list:
Frogster
Andante
Luke
Pooky
Andres
Catboi
CSF

catboi · Post Post #685 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:59 am

I think the reference to divide and conquer is instructive, as Lukewarm in that game (as one of the Todoroki) actually engaged and argued with the suspicion on them. Here, I got essentially crickets until he dropped those reads. I don't believe he comes to that conclusion on my alignment that quickly with no effort whatsoever to understand my reasoning. I just don't think it's a town response to pressure.

catboi · Post Post #686 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:01 am

In post 684, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 667, Dwlee99 wrote:Frogster
Andante
Luke
Pooky
Andres
Are who I want to focus on this phase I think
Also CSF
Complete list:
Frogster
Andante
Luke
Pooky
Andres
Catboi
CSF

How are you defining "focus" here?

Titus · Post Post #687 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:01 am

VOTE: Lukewarm

Let's see where it goes.

Greeting · Post Post #688 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:02 am

In post 680, Titus wrote: I wish I was scum this game just to show you everyone is pocketable. I don't know who you are, but that's a very proud statement.

I wish I was scum this game just to show that I'm perfectly capable of commenting on the setup as scum for the show too, not just because I want to understand it and use this knowledge to town's benefit. Honestly, I could also make the same post if I were scum, I would just leave out the part about potential wagon ties (which was a major unknown even if I was correct about only town votes counting) and hope that no one delves too much into that. They probably wouldn't even notice. This game has already 28 pages.

Even if I were right, I don't think most players would listen to my strategy anyways, because that's just how players in mafia games work. Still, I don't think this absolves me from legitimately trying to give town an advantage by attempting to interpret the game rules correctly.

Nonetheless, I'd much rather be the bomb expert this game than a potential bomb defuser, because I have a strong feeling that this is basically a death sentence in this setup. I mean, what if a town bomb defuser fails to understand the instructions correctly and gives out the wrong answer even if they did not intend to do so? So I'm kinda not complaining about being townread so easily for nothing.

Titus · Post Post #689 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:04 am

In post 688, Greeting wrote:I mean, what if a town bomb defuser fails to understand the instructions correctly and gives out the wrong answer even if they did not intend to do so?

Worth asking the mod, but I don't think this is possible given the defuser must accept the expert opinions.

catboi · Post Post #690 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:04 am

In post 687, Titus wrote:VOTE: Lukewarm

Let's see where it goes.

E-3, for the record. Do not want any quickhammers.

Datisi · Post Post #691 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:10 am

fireisredsir replaces Lukewarm.

fireisredsir · Post Post #692 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:10 am

hello friends!! ive never been a replacement before this is fun

Greeting · Post Post #693 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:14 am

In post 689, Titus wrote:
In post 688, Greeting wrote:I mean, what if a town bomb defuser fails to understand the instructions correctly and gives out the wrong answer even if they did not intend to do so?
Worth asking the mod, but I don't think this is possible given the defuser must accept the expert opinions.

Ugh, I confused the bomb defuser with bomb expert again. I meant the bomb expert. Sorry.

I was saying that this player error is also possible if someone misreads the instructions or just isn't clever enough to understand them. Can be tough as there is only one correct solution.

Titus · Post Post #694 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:15 am

In post 692, fireisredsir wrote:hello friends!! ive never been a replacement before this is fun

Curious to see what you do and how you play it.

Greeting · Post Post #695 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:15 am

In post 692, fireisredsir wrote:hello friends!! ive never been a replacement before this is fun

Hi!

fireisredsir · Post Post #696 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:15 am

ive been reading along with the thread and bad news is that i was scumreading lukewarm lmaoo

but good news is that i was wrong!!

i have some notes tho, let me add post tags to those and ill post some thoughts, one sec

ISO · Post Post #697 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:15 am

I was going to vote luke for not trying but then he at least tried. Was it a particularly good try? Eh.

Greeting even more town for arguing with townreads.

HEAL: dwlee per their request since I think this choice doesnt matter very much today

I took a brief look at andante's linked scum game and it has me thinking differently about how to read her. No conclusion from me yet there.

fireisredsir · Post Post #698 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:16 am

In post 693, Greeting wrote:I was saying that this player error is also possible if someone misreads the instructions or just isn't clever enough to understand them. Can be tough as there is only one correct solution.

ive played the actual game before and this happens OFTEN so i assume it is intended behavior for that to be a possibility here too

Titus · Post Post #699 (ISO) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:16 am

In post 2, Datisi wrote:please note: there is potential for needed mod influence. if a bomb expert does not understand their manual, they are free to (PRIVATELY) ask me for help, and i will clarify it for them. i believe it would be against the spirit of the game to have them submit incorrect information if they didn't intend to do so. there are no other bastard elements in this game.

The expert cannot misunderstand.