KTaNE [game over!]

[Morning Tweet]

I'm not trying to say you're automatically scum i just thought oyu haven't done anything that would surprise me

I dont object to that. Weird reason for a vote tho. I'm not sure if I've ever left my scumrange this early in a game

i just place my vote on an existing wagon i think reasonably can flip scum, and barring that, i just whoever i feel most strongest about at the time

I voted you because someone said u weren't like, jumping for joy at being town. which like hey maybe you just rolled scum again and that's why you seem the same

I'm voting GL now anyway so i dont know if this rlly matters sorry bt that lol

[Andante]

People "We're voting GL for no reason"
GL just isn't here...

real exciting wagon people!! at least go pick someone who is here and get that reaction.. voting GL accomplishes nothing... yall went back to mech talk while I was gone... like ughhh I really don't understand yall. making 0 sense

[Morning Tweet]

I thought Greeting's early posting was really strong even if that post didn't really resonate with me as much.

pedit: I'm voting GL because i think he has a reasonable chance of being scum

I don't have an option i prefer right now. What do you want me to do instead

[Titus]

Curious fire, what are your thoughts on me

[Morning Tweet]

I already said what i thought about the main wagon options. I'm pretty sure im like the only person voting for GL anyway

[Andante]

mmk yeah, just you and fire, I thought it was more, my b, I just legit haven't seen anything from GL so I'm curious why we're even voting there right now

I do not like fire's thoughts posted.. like the "I was reading along, and here's my thoughts" I think the take on me is exceptionally bad, and fire going "I thought luke was scum... hahaha he wasn't" umm why do I care?? and like, those thoughts do nothing.. not AI at all cause you weren't even in the game, and I HATE the take on one of my posts soooo that's fun. later problem though

[Andante]

Like, Andres was giving me major scum vibes earlier, I SR Andres a lot more than GL lol ok yeah, I gotta step away for real now

[Dwlee99]

Shit I have to include GL in my people to focus on list

[Dwlee99]

351 was a joke. 360 is unrelated to 351. Also: "it feels weird to make a gamestate read like that," well lemme show you some evidence:

Andante [7]:

Menalque, The Praetorian, Titus, PookyTheMagicalBear, fireisredsir, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever

Frogsterking [6]:

Titus, VP Baltar, The Praetorian, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever[/font][/area]

And since then, more people have voted her for defuser. Speaking of which:
HURT: Morning tweet

Simply because your statement became true later doesn't mean it made sense as a real thought at the time

But when I said that too many people townread Andante it was still true she had a ton of heal votes so what's your point?

[Menalque]

Hey Andres, I feel you bro

@fire, we’ve played before right? Your catch up style is really familiar

[VP Baltar]

There is definitely scum in: Lukewarm, Cephrir and VP Baltar.

Go on

[fireisredsir]

People "We're voting GL for no reason"
GL just isn't here...

real exciting wagon people!! at least go pick someone who is here and get that reaction.. voting GL accomplishes nothing... yall went back to mech talk while I was gone... like ughhh I really don't understand yall. making 0 sense

it isn't no reason. i think 256 is scummy. mostly a gut thing but it gave me vibes of him feeling like he needed to come up with a read that was supported by something at that time. doesn't feel organic. and since then he's disappeared a bit which prob isn't AI but also doesn't make me think he's any more towny

[fireisredsir]

Curious fire, what are your thoughts on me

you seem pretty unengaged so far, so i have little to no read on you. don't think you've really done anything AI

[fireisredsir]

@fire, we’ve played before right? Your catch up style is really familiar

no, ive never replaced in before so ive never really had to catch up before either

[The Bulge]

Again, this disagreement feels largely theoretical and based around us having different expectations.

i'm more curious about the fact your stance hasn't seemed to change since 21 despite mech discussions dominating large portions of the game so far.

Because the counterarguments aren't particularly compelling to me. They assume different things about who scum will nominate and how well town will be able to sort out its reads. At this point since it's all hypothetical we can go in circles for days.

Do you think my stance not changing is meaningful for my alignment in some way?

I'm leaning scum cuz it looks like agenda-based play. and I don't mean necessarily in a sense like you've developed a plan pre-game and are trying to ensure town will comply, more just that your stance looks predetermined and doesn't look to be naturally evolving with the thread.

[Menalque]

oh, okay, that’s cool, my mistake

nice to meet you in that case!

[The Bulge]

reading up

[catboi]

Again, this disagreement feels largely theoretical and based around us having different expectations.

i'm more curious about the fact your stance hasn't seemed to change since 21 despite mech discussions dominating large portions of the game so far.

Because the counterarguments aren't particularly compelling to me. They assume different things about who scum will nominate and how well town will be able to sort out its reads. At this point since it's all hypothetical we can go in circles for days.

Do you think my stance not changing is meaningful for my alignment in some way?

I'm leaning scum cuz it looks like agenda-based play. and I don't mean necessarily in a sense like you've developed a plan pre-game and are trying to ensure town will comply, more just that your stance looks predetermined and doesn't look to be naturally evolving with the thread.

You are correct that it is predetermined and incorrect that it is a scumtell for me because I would have an entirely different strategy as scum

[Menalque]

Can you please explain why you thought 164 felt like I was obligated to make it?

And at the same time what gave you bad vibes re: 595?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

351 was a joke. 360 is unrelated to 351. Also: "it feels weird to make a gamestate read like that," well lemme show you some evidence:

Andante [7]:

Menalque, The Praetorian, Titus, PookyTheMagicalBear, fireisredsir, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever

Frogsterking [6]:

Titus, VP Baltar, The Praetorian, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cephrir, Cat Scratch Fever[/font][/area]

And since then, more people have voted her for defuser. Speaking of which:
HURT: Morning tweet

Simply because your statement became true later doesn't mean it made sense as a real thought at the time

But when I said that too many people townread Andante it was still true she had a ton of heal votes so what's your point?

Yeah that's fair, I'm getting the impression that this is something you believe in anyway

[Andante]

I think I know what we need.. I want some readslists from people please. don't have to have 19 names on it, I wanna know some thoughts, cause some of yall, I think your reads are 1 way, you post, and they're clearly not, so if I could see who we're thinking are the top candidates for scum... that'd be amazing

[fireisredsir]

Can you please explain why you thought 164 felt like I was obligated to make it?

And at the same time what gave you bad vibes re: 595?

idk! it's not strong, i just kinda got "oh I'm supposed to post more of my thoughts now" vibes. like i didn't really feel like they were thoughts that most town would naturally feel inclined to share at that time, yk? not that they felt fake on their own, but i sensed some pressure of some outside force that made you want to post them. and that pressure could come from a red pm. but that can sometimes be just more of a personality thing too

i talked about 595 in 716

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VOTE: GuiltyLion

[Andante]

fun take: I think fire and mena are maf together

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Mena does seem to have trouble getting into the game

Not sure about fire yet